1190: "Time"

[Exodies]

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Is there a reason for the existence of BBCode rather than restricted HTML? It seems perverse.
I mean, we type:

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and a big fuck-off computer somewhere turns it into:

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Is this a sensible use of electricity?

[mojacardave]

* Is there a way of posting prettier links in the forum? I'd like a BBCode equivalent of the HTML:

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<A HREF='http://...'>Link</A>

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[url=http://whatever]whatever[/url]

Thank you!

Is there a reason for the existence of BBCode rather than restricted HTML? It seems perverse.

Nothing wrong with a bit of random perversity.

[higgs-boson]

My guess:

Spoiler:

projector and screen.

Folks seem to be assuming that the world is either 2-D or 3-D. This may not be the case here - I think Megan's dike is in a 2-D portion, with the arches being in a 3-D portion. If my guess is correct then the poles and box are 3(or more)-D.
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I am so glad that we are still not over-analysing this.

This is good. Please add it to the list of topics Randall the Magnificant should address in his weekly 'What If' sermon - how does a 3d/2d world boundary look like.
I'm reminded of a cut out pair of no-d specs included in one of Frank Zappa's albums (in case you don't have access to a record shop, the lenses were cardboard (un-cut-out)).

And here's your homwork for tomorrow's lessons: A. Square: Flatland (1884) Blackwell/Oxford

[KarMann]

My guess:

Spoiler:

projector and screen.

Folks seem to be assuming that the world is either 2-D or 3-D. This may not be the case here - I think Megan's dike is in a 2-D portion, with the arches being in a 3-D portion. If my guess is correct then the poles and box are 3(or more)-D.
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I am so glad that we are still not over-analysing this.

This is good. Please add it to the list of topics Randall the Magnificant should address in his weekly 'What If' sermon - how does a 3d/2d world boundary look like.
I'm reminded of a cut out pair of no-d specs included in one of Frank Zappa's albums (in case you don't have access to a record shop, the lenses were cardboard (un-cut-out)).

Much like the Joo Janta 200 Super-Chromatic Peril-Sensitive Sunglasses I got with the HItchhiker's Guide game I got for the ol' Apple IIc, once upon a time.

[SBN]

Is this a sensible use of electricity?

If you want sensible, you're going to have to look somewhere else.

[mojacardave]

* Is there a way of posting prettier links in the forum? I'd like a BBCode equivalent of the HTML:

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<A HREF='http://...'>Link</A>

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[url=http://whatever]whatever[/url]

Thank you!

Is there a reason for the existence of BBCode rather than restricted HTML? It seems perverse.
I mean, we type:

Code: Select all

[url=http://whatever]whatever[/url]

and a big fuck-off computer somewhere turns it into:

Code: Select all

<A HREF='http://whatever'>whatever</A>

Is this a sensible use of electricity?

I suspect that (coding wise) it's easier to detect and remove all HTML tags, than to try to restrict the set. There are so many different ways of writing HTML that it must be easier to strip every tag out, and start again with a custom created limited set. Personally I prefer using something like CKEditor, and providing a rich text box for user input, but there's always somebody who'll try to exploit HTML vulnerabilities.

[StratPlayer]

Hmmm, I see Megan's now adding more planks to her platform.

Maybe Megan is running for political office... Maybe this is all a metaphor for the role of government in modern society...

[Exodies]

My guess:

Spoiler:

projector and screen.

Folks seem to be assuming that the world is either 2-D or 3-D. This may not be the case here - I think Megan's dike is in a 2-D portion, with the arches being in a 3-D portion. If my guess is correct then the poles and box are 3(or more)-D.
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I am so glad that we are still not over-analysing this.

This is good. Please add it to the list of topics Randall the Magnificant should address in his weekly 'What If' sermon - how does a 3d/2d world boundary look like.
I'm reminded of a cut out pair of no-d specs included in one of Frank Zappa's albums (in case you don't have access to a record shop, the lenses were cardboard (un-cut-out)).

Much like the Joo Janta 200 Super-Chromatic Peril-Sensitive Sunglasses I got with the HItchhiker's Guide game I got for the ol' Apple IIc, once upon a time.

Bit of out-of-Time gossip: I ordered some photochromatic jazz sunglasses today. They become more translucent the more light there is. It's like a hipness amplifier.

[StratPlayer]

Silly Megan, you need help.

Regardless, a knightly organization would be fun. Perhaps the Knight Watchers?

Wait Watchers.

But, The Knights Temporal was the best suggestion.

<snip>

I agree. If we're voting. Or if anyone's tabulating votes. Or if anyone cares...

[Exodies]

* Is there a way of posting prettier links in the forum? I'd like a BBCode equivalent of the HTML:

Code: Select all

<A HREF='http://...'>Link</A>

Code: Select all

[url=http://whatever]whatever[/url]

Thank you!

Is there a reason for the existence of BBCode rather than restricted HTML? It seems perverse.
I mean, we type:

Code: Select all

[url=http://whatever]whatever[/url]

and a big fuck-off computer somewhere turns it into:

Code: Select all

<A HREF='http://whatever'>whatever</A>

Is this a sensible use of electricity?

I suspect that (coding wise) it's easier to detect and remove all HTML tags, than to try to restrict the set. There are so many different ways of writing HTML that it must be easier to strip every tag out, and start again with a custom created limited set. Personally I prefer using something like CKEditor, and providing a rich text box for user input, but there's always somebody who'll try to exploit HTML vulnerabilities.

Fiddlesticks. It's because code reuse is anathema to all programmers.

[mojacardave]

Bit of out-of-Time gossip: I ordered some photochromatic jazz sunglasses today. They become more translucent the more light there is. It's like a hipness amplifier.

It may be that I've missed the joke, but based on my understanding of what translucent means, 'more translucent' surely doesn't make sense.
More transparent or more opaque, sure, but translucent is somewhere in the middle...

[orthogon]

The Sleepless Knights? Just putting it out there.

Also, since peace has broken out between nounists and verbists, I put it to the forum that "Watch" in "Knights Watch" has the role of adjective, as is the case in other such constructions like "Lords Lieutenant" "Director General" etc. The unusual (for English) position probably has something to do with Norman French.

[SBN]

[mojacardave]

The Sleepless Knights?

That's clever enough to get my vote!

[benjaminswill]

Wait for it...

[StratPlayer]

Bit of out-of-Time gossip: I ordered some photochromatic jazz sunglasses today. They become more translucent the more light there is. It's like a hipness amplifier.

It may be that I've missed the joke, but based on my understanding of what translucent means, 'more translucent' surely doesn't make sense.
More transparent or more opaque, sure, but translucent is somewhere in the middle...

But the hipness amplifier does depend on the translucency, I think. Although I would think the degree of hipness is inversely proportional to the amount of light -- Jazz is much more hip in a dark, smoky club than on a bright, sunny beach...

[elementropy]

Bit of out-of-Time gossip: I ordered some photochromatic jazz sunglasses today. They become more translucent the more light there is. It's like a hipness amplifier.

It may be that I've missed the joke, but based on my understanding of what translucent means, 'more translucent' surely doesn't make sense.
More transparent or more opaque, sure, but translucent is somewhere in the middle...

One wears more-translucent glasses with a shirt sized extra-medium.

[Dracomax]

As Lord High Inquisitor(I declared myself several pages ago, and nobody objected, so I'm keeping it), I've been wondering...

Should I apply to be a cardinal? I am eligable. However, If I am ordained in one of the churches, then I wouldn't be able to punish members of other churches with ridiculous punishments for whatever I or anyone else arbitrarily decides is heresy.

On the other hand, I'd be a Cardinal.

also, sleepless Knights doesn't work. nobody here sleeps, we coma.

[Exodies]

Bit of out-of-Time gossip: I ordered some photochromatic jazz sunglasses today. They become more translucent the more light there is. It's like a hipness amplifier.

It may be that I've missed the joke, but based on my understanding of what translucent means, 'more translucent' surely doesn't make sense.
More transparent or more opaque, sure, but translucent is somewhere in the middle...

I'm not sure if sense is the overriding principal, but OED:
Through which light passes: = transparent adj.
1607 E. Topsell Hist. Fovre-footed Beastes 195 The eie of man is translucent, and containeth in it a horny substance.
1637 Milton Comus 861 Sabrina fair,..sitting Under the glassie, cool, translucent wave.
1725 E. Fenton in Pope et al. tr. Homer Odyssey I. i. 180 Replenish'd from the cool, translucent springs.
1867 G. H. Lewes Hist. Philos. (ed. 3) I. 326 Water, air, and other bodies which are translucent.
fig.
1891 A. C. Swinburne Jrnl. Sir W. Scott in Stud. Prose & Poetry (1894) 23 The translucent treachery of such an impious imposture.

[KarMann]

Also, since peace has broken out between nounists and verbists, I put it to the forum that "Watch" in "Knights Watch" has the role of adjective, as is the case in other such constructions like "Lords Lieutenant" "Director General" etc. The unusual (for English) position probably has something to do with Norman French.

You know, it really wasn't that long ago that I linked to the Wikipedia article on apposition.

[kryton]

I tend to turn to the greats of ScienceFiction for such things as a gender neutral pronoun, which several of my favorites did in fact adopt "ze" as that very thing.
"ze wants to go to the mall and get a new jacket for ze's upcoming interview so that ze can make zer car payment."

You've used "ze's" and "zer" to fill the same role there. I think I've usually seen "zir" for the possessive/genitive, but it might have been "zer".

The problem with gender neutral pronouns like 'ze', is that they sound stupid. Particular ones that rely on XtremeKoolLetterz. Maybe acceptable for use in an achingly ...Hold on, I think I swallowed a gerbil. Okay. What was I saying? online forum, but can you imagine actually speaking the words? How about using 'ze' in a sentence to somebody in an older generation? 'They' and 'their' aren't perfect substitutes, but they're acceptable and far less awkward to use.

Also, it definitely has to be zir. 'zer' is too reminiscent of 'her' which spoils the neutrality.

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BTW: Is there a way of posting prettier links in the forum? I'd like a BBCode equivalent of the HTML:

Code: Select all

<A HREF='http://...'>Link</A>

EDIT: solved and fixed post

I never claimed to be original, just a prolific plagiarizer.
Yeah, it sounds too much like a corny accent from a bad "B" movie

Ve Have vays ov making you taulk, you vill given uz ze microfilmen or ve vill shoot you!

So how about a contest to come up with our own gender neutral pronoun?

[KarMann]

Bit of out-of-Time gossip: I ordered some photochromatic jazz sunglasses today. They become more translucent the more light there is. It's like a hipness amplifier.

It may be that I've missed the joke, but based on my understanding of what translucent means, 'more translucent' surely doesn't make sense.
More transparent or more opaque, sure, but translucent is somewhere in the middle...

But the hipness amplifier does depend on the translucency, I think. Although I would think the degree of hipness is inversely proportional to the amount of light -- Jazz is much more hip in a dark, smoky club than on a bright, sunny beach...

Translucency isn't just a matter of being not-entirely-transparent, not-entirely-opaque, though. It also means it scatters the light, a property generally considered undesirable in eyewear, aside from certain special exceptions such as the aforementioned Peril-Sensitive ones.

[mojacardave]

also, sleepless Knights doesn't work. nobody here sleeps, we coma.

That surely makes sleepless work better?

[Exodies]

I tend to turn to the greats of ScienceFiction for such things as a gender neutral pronoun, which several of my favorites did in fact adopt "ze" as that very thing.
"ze wants to go to the mall and get a new jacket for ze's upcoming interview so that ze can make zer car payment."

You've used "ze's" and "zer" to fill the same role there. I think I've usually seen "zir" for the possessive/genitive, but it might have been "zer".

The problem with gender neutral pronouns like 'ze', is that they sound stupid. Particular ones that rely on XtremeKoolLetterz. Maybe acceptable for use in an achingly ...Hold on, I think I swallowed a gerbil. Okay. What was I saying? online forum, but can you imagine actually speaking the words? How about using 'ze' in a sentence to somebody in an older generation? 'They' and 'their' aren't perfect substitutes, but they're acceptable and far less awkward to use.

Also, it definitely has to be zir. 'zer' is too reminiscent of 'her' which spoils the neutrality.

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BTW: Is there a way of posting prettier links in the forum? I'd like a BBCode equivalent of the HTML:

Code: Select all

<A HREF='http://...'>Link</A>

EDIT: solved and fixed post

I never claimed to be original, just a prolific plagiarizer.
Yeah, it sounds too much like a corny accent from a bad "B" movie

Ve Have vays ov making you taulk, you vill given uz ze microfilmen or ve vill shoot you!

So how about a contest to come up with our own gender neutral pronoun?

My suggestion: He and Her (discard She and His oh, and Him)

[Angelastic]

also, sleepless Knights doesn't work. nobody here sleeps, we coma.

That surely makes sleepless work better?

Indeed. And just after I read that, a song called 'No Rest for the Weary' came up on my iPod which started by mentioning lines in the sand, and went on to mention hourglasses, time drifting past, and greyness and dark. Another one for the hymn book.

[histrion]

He may be slow, but it was Cueball that initiated the molding of the mound into the recursive model.

I hypothesize that Megan is the representative of Time, and Cueball the representative of Space. Just as Cueball made it so that scene would repeat itself forever, so is Megan constructing the structure and sea wall so that time will never end. As long as they work together the universe goes on, but if they were to get into an arguement, wait for it...

That's pretty potent stuff you're smoking

I figured VC was reading One Hundred Years of Solitude.

[SBN]

So how about a contest to come up with our own gender neutral pronoun?

he, she, E
him, her, Em
his, hers, Es

[StratPlayer]

I tend to turn to the greats of ScienceFiction for such things as a gender neutral pronoun, which several of my favorites did in fact adopt "ze" as that very thing.
"ze wants to go to the mall and get a new jacket for ze's upcoming interview so that ze can make zer car payment."

You've used "ze's" and "zer" to fill the same role there. I think I've usually seen "zir" for the possessive/genitive, but it might have been "zer".

The problem with gender neutral pronouns like 'ze', is that they sound stupid. Particular ones that rely on XtremeKoolLetterz. Maybe acceptable for use in an achingly ...Hold on, I think I swallowed a gerbil. Okay. What was I saying? online forum, but can you imagine actually speaking the words? How about using 'ze' in a sentence to somebody in an older generation? 'They' and 'their' aren't perfect substitutes, but they're acceptable and far less awkward to use.

Also, it definitely has to be zir. 'zer' is too reminiscent of 'her' which spoils the neutrality.

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BTW: Is there a way of posting prettier links in the forum? I'd like a BBCode equivalent of the HTML:

Code: Select all

<A HREF='http://...'>Link</A>

EDIT: solved and fixed post

I never claimed to be original, just a prolific plagiarizer.
Yeah, it sounds too much like a corny accent from a bad "B" movie

Ve Have vays ov making you taulk, you vill given uz ze microfilmen or ve vill shoot you!

So how about a contest to come up with our own gender neutral pronoun?

My suggestion: He and Her (discard She and His oh, and Him)

We could go the acronymic route...

"Diminutive 'Other', Non-Genderistic" (DONG)

EDIT: Added "could" to "We could go..." It sounded too much like a Tarzan command without it...

[kryton]

Bit of out-of-Time gossip: I ordered some photochromatic jazz sunglasses today. They become more translucent the more light there is. It's like a hipness amplifier.

It may be that I've missed the joke, but based on my understanding of what translucent means, 'more translucent' surely doesn't make sense.
More transparent or more opaque, sure, but translucent is somewhere in the middle...

But the hipness amplifier does depend on the translucency, I think. Although I would think the degree of hipness is inversely proportional to the amount of light -- Jazz is much more hip in a dark, smoky club than on a bright, sunny beach...

Translucency isn't just a matter of being not-entirely-transparent, not-entirely-opaque, though. It also means it scatters the light, a property generally considered undesirable in eyewear, aside from certain special exceptions such as the aforementioned Peril-Sensitive ones.

Transparent = clear, of which sunglasses are clearly not clear. Remember how Transparent Aluminum looks?

[histrion]

[quote="kryton"So how about a contest to come up with our own gender neutral pronoun?[/quote]

Dang it, I just did that a year ago (came up with my own set) but I think I threw that piece of paper away a couple of months ago.

I seem to recall most or all of them started with the letter 'q' (sans 'u,' so pronounced like a 'k').

I think it was something like this:

He / She / Qe
Her / Him / Quim (so as not to sound like the name "Kim")
Hers / His / Qis
Herself / Himself / Quimself

[AionArap]

* Is there a way of posting prettier links in the forum? I'd like a BBCode equivalent of the HTML:

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<A HREF='http://...'>Link</A>

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[url=http://whatever]whatever[/url]

See the FAQ, to use it in a sentence.

Alternatively, just hovering your cursor over the URL button in the post editor will tell you the same thing

[Exodies]

Bit of out-of-Time gossip: I ordered some photochromatic jazz sunglasses today. They become more translucent the more light there is. It's like a hipness amplifier.

It may be that I've missed the joke, but based on my understanding of what translucent means, 'more translucent' surely doesn't make sense.
More transparent or more opaque, sure, but translucent is somewhere in the middle...

But the hipness amplifier does depend on the translucency, I think. Although I would think the degree of hipness is inversely proportional to the amount of light -- Jazz is much more hip in a dark, smoky club than on a bright, sunny beach...

Translucency isn't just a matter of being not-entirely-transparent, not-entirely-opaque, though. It also means it scatters the light, a property generally considered undesirable in eyewear, aside from certain special exceptions such as the aforementioned Peril-Sensitive ones.

Transparent = clear, of which sunglasses are clearly not clear. Remember how Transparent Aluminum looks?

A man walks into a bar.
Ouch.
It was an aluminium bar.
Didn't see that.

EDIT: drat, this is my 100th post. Need to post something inane. Buggar. How will anyone tell?

[Exodies]

* Is there a way of posting prettier links in the forum? I'd like a BBCode equivalent of the HTML:

Code: Select all

<A HREF='http://...'>Link</A>

Code: Select all

[url=http://whatever]whatever[/url]

See the FAQ, to use it in a sentence.

Alternatively, just hovering your cursor over the URL button in the post editor will tell you the same thing

Yes, but. Will it tell you long enough to read it? And I've tried hovering on my iPad; doesn't work.

[StratPlayer]

Her / Him / Quim (so as not to sound like the name "Kim")

Um, because a slang term for vagina is much better than sounding like a person's name?

[htom]

Is this a sensible use of electricity?

If you want sensible, you're going to have to look somewhere else.

The computer cycles keep cycling, they can do this, or they can busy-wait. Your call.

There are times when I use Spivak Pronouns; the rare comments about their use are spelling corrections, indicating the commenter didn't understand.

[chem1190c]

* Is there a way of posting prettier links in the forum? I'd like a BBCode equivalent of the HTML:

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<A HREF='http://...'>Link</A>

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[url=http://whatever]whatever[/url]

Thank you!

Is there a reason for the existence of BBCode rather than restricted HTML? It seems perverse.
I mean, we type:

Code: Select all

[url=http://whatever]whatever[/url]

and a big fuck-off computer somewhere turns it into:

Code: Select all

<A HREF='http://whatever'>whatever</A>

Is this a sensible use of electricity?

I suspect that (coding wise) it's easier to detect and remove all HTML tags, than to try to restrict the set. There are so many different ways of writing HTML that it must be easier to strip every tag out, and start again with a custom created limited set. Personally I prefer using something like CKEditor, and providing a rich text box for user input, but there's always somebody who'll try to exploit HTML vulnerabilities.

I think the simple answer is that html is waaaaay to easy to exploit. Things would fall apart pretty quick, since there's virtually no way to create an all encompassing filter to keep all the "bad" html out.

Many messages boards and forums used to allow virtually unrestricted use of html. One of the more entertaining exploits I've seen people use is:
Including a strategically placed unclosed html tag so that everything below your post vanishes, including the reply field.. sometimes followed up by spoofing the actual reply box/form with a custom written dialog that looks identical to the original. Then when someone tries to respond to the first post it does something .. different.. than they expect it to.

Of course the internet was a much simpler place back then.

[histrion]

Her / Him / Quim (so as not to sound like the name "Kim")

Um, because a slang term for vagina is much better than sounding like a person's name?

Seriously? I have *never* heard that term before.

Obviously Quir would have problems of its own.

Qim or Qir. Preference?

[AionArap]

* Is there a way of posting prettier links in the forum? I'd like a BBCode equivalent of the HTML:

Code: Select all

<A HREF='http://...'>Link</A>

Code: Select all

[url=http://whatever]whatever[/url]

See the FAQ, to use it in a sentence.

Alternatively, just hovering your cursor over the URL button in the post editor will tell you the same thing

Yes, but. Will it tell you long enough to read it? And I've tried hovering on my iPad; doesn't work.

What? Your iPad doesn't hover? Pffft.

[KarMann]

* Is there a way of posting prettier links in the forum? I'd like a BBCode equivalent of the HTML:

Code: Select all

<A HREF='http://...'>Link</A>

Code: Select all

[url=http://whatever]whatever[/url]

See the FAQ, to use it in a sentence.

Alternatively, just hovering your cursor over the URL button in the post editor will tell you the same thing

Yes, but. Will it tell you long enough to read it? And I've tried hovering on my iPad; doesn't work.

What? Your iPad doesn't hover? Pffft.

Yep, sad but true, it's 2013, and I still don't have my hoverboard, or my flying car.

[histrion]

Is this a sensible use of electricity?

If you want sensible, you're going to have to look somewhere else.

The computer cycles keep cycling, they can do this, or they can busy-wait. Your call.

There are times when I use Spivak Pronouns; the rare comments about their use are spelling corrections, indicating the commenter didn't understand.

Spoken Spivak pronouns sound too much like Cockney hes and hims to me.