1190: "Time"

[Caswallon]

Megan did pour something in the holes, though - I assume it was some sort of concrete. The bucket's still sitting at the top of the left platform.

I don't believe so, because the (bucket/box/lunch/time machine) never moves while the poles are being raised. There are clear indications of her digging by hand however.

[fhorn]

I've lost track of whom to beseech/implore/bribe, but could whomsoever hath the power to deem it so please deem me Knighty Knight?
Then I may coma at will.

Well, I'm not part of the knighthood, nor do I have an official place in the hierarchy of any of the 3 churches, but I am the Grand Lord High Inquisitor, so if that's good enough(and anyone who says it isn't is being introduced to Hotsauce treated chocolate chip cookies) then I'll do it.

By the power taken by me as part of a scheme to take power and issue ridiculous punishments, I pronounce you Sir fhorn, Knighty knight, Defender of the Comaing.

Many thanks, oh GLHI Dracomax! I would have thanked you sooner but I was checking my eyelids for holes. Part of my knightly Knighty Knight duties.

[veryslightlygeeky]

Has anyone else noticed that we have passed half a million views on this thread?

Gosh and gollygosh! Who'd a thought it? Here is to the next 500k

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'tempus rerum imperator'


[ 500000, 5e5 500,000 5x10⁵ just for ease of searching ]

[spamjam]

[Dracomax]

Has anyone else noticed that we have passed half a million views on this thread?

Gosh and gollygosh! Who'd a thought it? Here is to the next 500k

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'tempus rerum imperator'


[ 500000, 5e5 500,000 5x10⁵ just for ease of searching ]

I beleive within a couple of months, we can have the longest thread in the forum, and we have yet to degenerate into flamewar. however, we are so very far off topic that we are on topic again...

[veryslightlygeeky]

[ Hmm. That last one posted OK. Several of my attempts have not worked. Humble apologies if you felt ignored by me.]

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[cari.j.elliot]

Keeping up with Time has been difficult, though the slower pace of discussion has helped me maintain my faith in the One True Comic. How can I apply for a post in the Knighthood? Though as a woman, I suppose I would be Dame rather than Knight.

[Dracomax]

Keeping up with Time has been difficult, though the slower pace of discussion has helped me maintain my faith in the One True Comic. How can I apply for a post in the Knighthood? Though as a woman, I suppose I would be Dame rather than Knight.

No, the Knighthood, as per it's inclusion in Time, is gender neutral.

You'd still be a knight, and entitled to the use of "Sir" or "Dame" as it suits you.

[partingLance]

I've lost track of whom to beseech/implore/bribe, but could whomsoever hath the power to deem it so please deem me Knighty Knight?
Then I may coma at will.

Well, I'm not part of the knighthood, nor do I have an official place in the hierarchy of any of the 3 churches...

Ahem. As High Holy Heretic of the Western Paradox Church (and self-proclaimed Knight Temporal, so there too), I must chime in at this point. I assume you're not counting us. Which is as it should be.

In fact, I defy you to try. The WPC is the near-exact equivalent of that standing stone from one or other Terry Pratchett novel. Despite the fact that there was believed to be only one of it, no-one had ever been able to count it (it always seemed to hide behind another one, or something like that).

[Whizbang]

Hmmm... It appears to be just an ordinary bucket. He put the rope(s) into it.

Bummer. I was hoping for more.

[veryslightlygeeky]

[imath][/imath]That new bit looks straight. I hope it will become diagonal bracing. The HSE (UK) and OHSA (USA) would be having kittens at all this.

Just as well that pixels are pretty rugged.

And all this goes to show just what can happen when creative people go to relax on the beach.

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'tempus rerum inperator'

[Davidy]

C: Later
M: Bye
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M: Wanna Swim?
C: Yeah
M: Pffthh *Cough*
C: You OK?
M: Just Got Some In My Mouth(*)
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C: I Don't Think We Can Build It Much Taller Than This. It's Been Fun, Though.
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C: Pthuh, Yuck. I've Had Worse(*)
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C: Guess One Of Us Should Climb Down
M: Yeah
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M: The Sea Is Rising
C: Yeah


This pair's names must be Cueball Boring and Megan Bland.

(*) Insert "That's what she said" joke here.

[slinches]

Megan did pour something in the holes, though - I assume it was some sort of concrete. The bucket's still sitting at the top of the left platform.

I'm guessing you've never set a structural post. For this type of post in loose soil or sand the post should have somewhere between 1-1.5 feet below ground for every three feet above. Assuming Megan is ~5 ft tall, these posts should be set 4-6 ft deep. This could be reduced if the structure was designed to be free standing (i.e. the weight only "rests" on the ground and doesn't need any lateral support), but that does not appear to be the case. Additionally, she'd need a lot more concrete than she reasonably could have brought in without a cart or forklift if she dug the holes by hand (conical hole instead of the clean vertical walls that are achievable with an auger).

/over-analyzing stick figure architecture.

[histrion]

Megan did pour something in the holes, though - I assume it was some sort of concrete. The bucket's still sitting at the top of the left platform.

I don't believe so, because the (bucket/box/lunch/time machine) never moves while the poles are being raised. There are clear indications of her digging by hand however.

I think you're right. I think I misread her action in frame 475.

[cari.j.elliot]

Keeping up with Time has been difficult, though the slower pace of discussion has helped me maintain my faith in the One True Comic. How can I apply for a post in the Knighthood? Though as a woman, I suppose I would be Dame rather than Knight.

No, the Knighthood, as per it's inclusion in Time, is gender neutral.

You'd still be a knight, and entitled to the use of "Sir" or "Dame" as it suits you.

Fair, what quest do you set me to prove my worth?

[lmjb1964]

Megan did pour something in the holes, though - I assume it was some sort of concrete. The bucket's still sitting at the top of the left platform.

I'm guessing you've never set a structural post. For this type of post in loose soil or sand the post should have somewhere between 1-1.5 feet below ground for every three feet above. Assuming Megan is ~5 ft tall, these posts should be set 4-6 ft deep. This could be reduced if the structure was designed to be free standing (i.e. the weight only "rests" on the ground and doesn't need any lateral support), but that does not appear to be the case. Additionally, she'd need a lot more concrete than she reasonably could have brought in without a cart or forklift if she dug the holes by hand (conical hole instead of the clean vertical walls that are achievable with an auger).

/over-analyzing stick figure architecture.

Exactly. Maybe in 2D stick-figure architecture, building codes are much looser.

I'm hoping this will be the first post on the 300th page...

[zenix]

I beleive within a couple of months, we can have the longest thread in the forum, and we have yet to degenerate into flamewar. however, we are so very far off topic that we are on topic again...

I just checked and the "count to 1 million" thread over in the games section is already at 54,262. So, here's to the next 40,000 posts

[Latent22]

The original image at the top with some fixed instructions
A section below to post new rendered pages

Just to make sure the faithful see what you have proposed... You want to change the One True Comic?!

Yeah my original idea I had was to annotate the original Comic. This may be a bit too heretical for some. The level of editing or the restriction on all edition would need to be up for debate. An option is to just leave the original comic intact and just make each page of the new bible filled up with the original comic on the top and then text/quotes/stories/sayings that are derived or linked to the above newpix. Their could be some story/saying/words of wisdom/cautionary tale that is longer and spans more than one page.

One option would be to have a rule that the only change to the original can be reference numbers in brackets [1] that must be colored blue to not be confused with the holy black and the white that only our lord Randall may use. Then the elements cited in the comic can have their true meaning explained in the text section below.

Another option is to divide the bottom half into sections on a page by page basis. We might have the first section being the continuation of a story from the last few pages which is long with a section below it with forum comment quotes from this fora. And maybe a section near the bottom with a one line interpretation of what Megan/Cueball might have said in the above frame. Which sections are included in each page would vary as needed.

I've seen many posts in here that if quoted into the a bible page could probably carry a whole page. So the initial Bible version could start out as just quotations from here which allows it to be quickly started. Most pages would start out blank and get filled in over time. If several people just took 10-20 newpix each they could very quickly bang out a quick initial draft of the bible in no time.

You could even divide up sections of pages to different members so that that members flavor or style will show though for those pages. for example newpix 101-125 could be labeled SBN I to SBN XXV and the content and layout decided mainly by one person and represent that persons interpretation of the one true comic.

Another option is to add as well as text to the bottom half some comics and drawings inspired by the comic but these may be in the section below with the original comic still in place.

Anyway just ideas up for discussion really.

[lmjb1964]

Some Stuff

Some More Stuff

To be fair, the ground could still be made up of non sand substance.

Even if it is a non-sand substance, it seems to behave the same as sand based on the building of the sandcastle and the lack of use of tools when digging etc...

Unless they happen to be playing in a giant pile of extremely fast setting concrete, which seems awfully dangerous next to the water.

This is sort of the opposite of one of my favorite Stephen Wright bits: "When I was little, we had a quicksand box. I was an only child...eventually."

[Lord Cathbad]

300!

Edit: damn. Miscalculated. Maybe a ninja post will bump me?

[arjan]

The structure still reminds me of this one:



where Queball looked at us, just before destroying the two walls.

[Whizbang]

300!

Edit: damn. Miscalculated. Maybe a ninja post will bump me?

Don't worry. It happens to a lot of guys*.

*For the sake of this joke, gender has been disregarded.

[Lord Cathbad]

300!

Edit: damn. Miscalculated. Maybe a ninja post will bump me?

Don't worry. It happens to a lot of guys*.

*For the sake of this joke, gender has been disregarded.

Guessed correctly.


Er... About gender, not that it happens a lot. Premature posting, that is.

[Eshru]

300!

Edit: damn. Miscalculated. Maybe a ninja post will bump me?

Don't worry. It happens to a lot of guys*.

*For the sake of this joke, gender has been disregarded.

Guessed correctly.

Er... About gender, not that it happens a lot. Premature posting, that is.

This... This is MADNESS!

[PinkShinyRose]

Any speculation as to why they would build a platform and then just sit there, waiting for the water to rise?

What if the water continually rises and falls, and the platform is simply a place for them to wait for the rising to wipe out their creation so that they can start over? What if this:

I don't think we can build it much taller than this

was not a statement of lack of ability, but rather a restriction based off of how high they already know the water will rise? What if they have already built the castle before, and the platform, and the beginning of Time was merely our insertion into their loop of buildcastle-buildplatform-waitforwater-teardownplatform-repeat?

Ah. the circular time theory. unless it comes true, it's heresy. bring out...the Comfy chair!

unless they have a mad dog board...

Are you saying the Vatican Milliner's Perfect Customer is a heretic?

Except, with this type of desturction, I don't see how the beach woll be level, if it be supposed to loop...

I, for one, be not a loopist.

Sinner! ur goin to sand hell!

[htom]

I've lost track of whom to beseech/implore/bribe, but could whomsoever hath the power to deem it so please deem me Knighty Knight?
Then I may coma at will.

Well, I'm not part of the knighthood, nor do I have an official place in the hierarchy of any of the 3 churches, but I am the Grand Lord High Inquisitor, so if that's good enough(and anyone who says it isn't is being introduced to Hotsauce treated chocolate chip cookies) then I'll do it.

By the power taken by me as part of a scheme to take power and issue ridiculous punishments, I pronounce you Sir fhorn, Knighty knight, Defender of the Comaing.

Now those sound scrumptious, recipe, please. Oh! "it isn't"!

[Jafloi]

The original image at the top with some fixed instructions
A section below to post new rendered pages

Just to make sure the faithful see what you have proposed... You want to change the One True Comic?!

Yeah my original idea I had was to annotate the original Comic. This may be a bit too heretical for some. The level of editing or the restriction on all edition would need to be up for debate. An option is to just leave the original comic intact and just make each page of the new bible filled up with the original comic on the top and then text/quotes/stories/sayings that are derived or linked to the above newpix. Their could be some story/saying/words of wisdom/cautionary tale that is longer and spans more than one page.

One option would be to have a rule that the only change to the original can be reference numbers in brackets [1] that must be colored blue to not be confused with the holy black and the white that only our lord Randall may use. Then the elements cited in the comic can have their true meaning explained in the text section below.

Another option is to divide the bottom half into sections on a page by page basis. We might have the first section being the continuation of a story from the last few pages which is long with a section below it with forum comment quotes from this fora. And maybe a section near the bottom with a one line interpretation of what Megan/Cueball might have said in the above frame. Which sections are included in each page would vary as needed.

I've seen many posts in here that if quoted into the a bible page could probably carry a whole page. So the initial Bible version could start out as just quotations from here which allows it to be quickly started. Most pages would start out blank and get filled in over time. If several people just took 10-20 newpix each they could very quickly bang out a quick initial draft of the bible in no time.

You could even divide up sections of pages to different members so that that members flavor or style will show though for those pages. for example newpix 101-125 could be labeled SBN I to SBN XXV and the content and layout decided mainly by one person and represent that persons interpretation of the one true comic.

Another option is to add as well as text to the bottom half some comics and drawings inspired by the comic but these may be in the section below with the original comic still in place.

Anyway just ideas up for discussion really.

The rule of ''holy B&W'' seems like a good idea! also like the consept of dividing up sections of pages to different members so that that members flavor or style will show though for those pages.

Edit: Time to coma!

[lmjb1964]

4) Megan only brought one short top board, unless she had both short top boards in 442. This isn't clear.

So:

1) Where did the 4th pole come from? Was it always there?

Here's a theory: after C says they can't build any higher and walks off, M seems to be looking back and forth in frames 415-417. Maybe there was a piece of wood already on the beach, and that's what gave her the idea to build the scaffold. Just a thought.

[histrion]

[nickulo]

Time to build Skyloft.

[Shepherdess]

Has anyone already suggested they're building an ark?

[Whizbang]

What did she do with the ladder? She picked it up... and set it back down without any visible change in position.

[lmjb1964]

Has anyone already suggested they're building an ark?

Or a huge trebuchet? Maybe there's an even bigger sand castle off frame to the left.

[Flado]

Please do not make me a member of the Western Paradox Church. I have just had a visit from the future and I told me I never became one.

Gotcha!

[elementropy]

Bump:

300!

Edit: damn. Miscalculated. Maybe a ninja post will bump me?

(edit...I miscalculated too...missed it by...that much...)

[Lord Cathbad]

Has anyone already suggested they're building an ark?

Or a huge trebuchet? Maybe there's an even bigger sand castle off frame to the left.

Or across the river/ocean/semen?

[Lord Cathbad]

Bump:

300!

Edit: damn. Miscalculated. Maybe a ninja post will bump me?

You're welcome!

Don't worry, I managed on my own

[elementropy]

Bump:

300!

Edit: damn. Miscalculated. Maybe a ninja post will bump me?

You're welcome!

Don't worry, I managed on my own

(see edit on last post of p.299)

[PhoenixRising]

Time for another catchup-wall. I'm also updating the quotes page of the wiki again.

Quest progress: 219 out of 295 pages.
The Architect Age. NP 331.

Another missive from the future! Embedded in a signature this time:

Blitzgirl -- Your communication received with great joy and rejoicing.

As was yours! I look forward to one day meeting those of you fortunate enough to tread this thread in the present Time.

I speak to you now from another dark era, pre-Recursion, where Cueball labors alone on the Sandcastle. The posts chatter endlessly of strange bestiality, involving an uncle named Jack beating off a horse (or somesuch). The Madness has ended, but the madness that pervades this thread persists, as it has for all Time. It is a constant in my travels, and I have come to find it comforting.

As one of those in the thread at the present Time, my past self welcomes you. May the rest of your journey be swift and filled with madness, and may Zeno not catch you.

I must admit I tried to go on a similar quest as yours but I was weak and gave in to temptation and made Time jumps on several ocasions. Fortunately the Holy Wiki helped me in those dark Times to keep my (in)sanity, and follow what I could not witness by myself.

Perhaps we need something like what they have in Second Life - a virtual Haaj to help the devout prepare for the real thing.

No, only the most powerful among us should be asked to do such a thing. I beleive Blitzgirl to be the last of her kind.

I've heard she is known among some people as the "Incoming Hurricane" and among the elves, she is called "Blitzrandir."

It is said she once wrestled a grue to submission.

Truly, noone should be held to the standard she set. we should try to emulate it, as we should any saint, but I doubt anyone could live up to her feat.

I've still faithfully read every post. Although I can't claim to catch up from 200+ pages back... (100 back was the worst position I've been in) And I also can't claim to have wrestled a grue (the story's true, I heard it from the grue's ex-gf's friend's aunt's cat, via a source of unquestionable honesty. Although I wonder about the drunken translator I found in that back alley who helped with the whole communication...)

I wonder if anyone has trolled BlitzGirl by editing a post AFTER she has already read it.

I think, for the sake of science, that she needs to do a covert re-read sometime in the future.

*thump*
Anyone who has such audacity should be flung into the Outside, as prey for the Hat.

I wonder if anyone has trolled BlitzGirl by editing a post AFTER she has already read it.

That would be a great Sin that only a heretic could suggest!
Prepare the stake!

Orbital stake drop?

Just drop the whole cow.
edit: on second thought, let's throw them in the comfy chair, and dunk him in chocolate.

then let the semencancerbabies loose.

Or this. Bring out the comfy chair! Stat!

Any speculation as to why they would build a platform and then just sit there, waiting for the water to rise?

What if the water continually rises and falls, and the platform is simply a place for them to wait for the rising to wipe out their creation so that they can start over? What if this:

I don't think we can build it much taller than this

was not a statement of lack of ability, but rather a restriction based off of how high they already know the water will rise? What if they have already built the castle before, and the platform, and the beginning of Time was merely our insertion into their loop of buildcastle-buildplatform-waitforwater-teardownplatform-repeat?

I remain stalwart in my antilooparianism. Although certain aspects of history are cyclical, there is no reason to expect the same is true of Time itself.

Also, more philosophically, for us to assume that Time will eventually repeat itself is to question the One True Command. Let us assume for the moment that Time is in fact cyclical. There are thus two possibilities for the number of loops. Either there is a single First Loop, followed by a presumably infinite number of repetitions, or else there is no First Loop and Time repeats in both directions without bound. In either case, there is no reason to believe that we are bearing witness to the First Loop; there is no such thing in the latter, and in the former, the mediocrity principle should deter us from believing that we are specially situated to see one specific loop out of an infinite number. Accordingly, Looped Time invalidates the need to "Wait for it." Even if we personally are not aware of the previous iteration of Looped Time, that knowledge would still be available, and the need to truly "Wait for it" would be correspondingly eliminated.

We know, however, that we must "Wait for it." For this to be true, either Time must not be cyclical, or we must be in the staggeringly exception position to be watching the unique first loop out of an infinite number of loops, a situation that Bayesian inference reveals as laughable implausible.

Time is thus a singular thing. We know that, at some point, it began. We know that it continues. Perhaps it will continue without end, and the One True Command merely serves to remind us to take inspiration from each passing newpix. Or perhaps, Time will End, and those of us who have stayed true to the Command will be lifted up to whatever awaits us beyond Time itself. We cannot know these things; we must wait for it. But knowing that there is not likely to be a simple loop, we can take solace that Time is worth the wait.

Unless "Wait for it" is merely what Cueball and Megan are doing, and have been doing, and will continue doing. Building the sandcastle, shooting the trebuchet, building the platform - maybe all of that is really just them Waiting for "it" - the sea.

Notice that when Cueball returns to the scene at 463, and Megan is building the platform, he immediately knows how to help her, with no instructions - almost like he had done it before...

Or Cueball and Megan are just that deep into a relationship that each instinctively knows what the other is thinking and doing.

The fuck is going on in this thread?
I mean, I've been following the comic as avidly as anyone, but man has this gone places.

Time happened. Any other questions?

I've lost track of whom to beseech/implore/bribe, but could whomsoever hath the power to deem it so please deem me Knighty Knight?
Then I may coma at will.

Well, I'm not part of the knighthood, nor do I have an official place in the hierarchy of any of the 3 churches, but I am the Grand Lord High Inquisitor, so if that's good enough(and anyone who says it isn't is being introduced to Hotsauce treated chocolate chip cookies) then I'll do it.

By the power taken by me as part of a scheme to take power and issue ridiculous punishments, I pronounce you Sir fhorn, Knighty knight, Defender of the Comaing.

I like your style of punishments, and I don't like any of the religions. Can I join you as Secondary Lord High Inquisitor?


EDIT: 42 posts! WOO!

[Lord Cathbad]

Bump:

300!

Edit: damn. Miscalculated. Maybe a ninja post will bump me?

You're welcome!

Don't worry, I managed on my own

(see edit on last post of p.299)

Seen it. And don't worry, I read it happens to a lot of guys.