1190: "Time"

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Valarya » Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:05 pm UTC

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Asthanius wrote:HAL, unfortunately, you're no longer Pope.

Though that is true, I can give you my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal. I've still got the greatest enthusiasm and confidence in the mission. And I want to help you.
Edit: enjoy your time as Pope, Valarya!


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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HAL9000 » Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:06 pm UTC

Asthanius wrote:
HAL9000 wrote:
Asthanius wrote:HAL, unfortunately, you're no longer Pope.

Though that is true, I can give you my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal. I've still got the greatest enthusiasm and confidence in the mission. And I want to help you.
Edit: enjoy your time as Pope, Valarya!

Then why don't I trust you?

It can only be attributable to human error.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HAL9000 » Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:07 pm UTC

Valarya wrote:
HAL9000 wrote:
Asthanius wrote:HAL, unfortunately, you're no longer Pope.

Though that is true, I can give you my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal. I've still got the greatest enthusiasm and confidence in the mission. And I want to help you.
Edit: enjoy your time as Pope, Valarya!


To continue in good-faith as a glorified member of the unorthodox's - I also hereby abdicate my title as PFAP. Long-reign-Hal?!

I can only be Vatican Milliner's Perfect Customer once per day. Thus, the title goes to Asthanius!
Congratulations on your ascendancy.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Valarya » Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:07 pm UTC

Valarya wrote:
HAL9000 wrote:
Asthanius wrote:HAL, unfortunately, you're no longer Pope.

Though that is true, I can give you my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal. I've still got the greatest enthusiasm and confidence in the mission. And I want to help you.
Edit: enjoy your time as Pope, Valarya!


To continue in good-faith as a glorified member of the unorthodox's - I also hereby abdicate my title as PFAP. Long-reign-Hal?!


Val/Hal... we might need to reign as new-pope PFAP forever, as combined we almost make valhalla...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Asthanius » Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:08 pm UTC

HAL9000 wrote:
Asthanius wrote:
HAL9000 wrote:
Asthanius wrote:HAL, unfortunately, you're no longer Pope.

Though that is true, I can give you my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal. I've still got the greatest enthusiasm and confidence in the mission. And I want to help you.
Edit: enjoy your time as Pope, Valarya!

Then why don't I trust you?

It can only be attributable to human error.

Where the hell did you get that idea, HAL?
EDIT: Also, I accept the ascendancy with great...I'm gonna call it "dread".
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HAL9000 » Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:09 pm UTC

Valarya wrote:
Valarya wrote:
HAL9000 wrote:
Asthanius wrote:HAL, unfortunately, you're no longer Pope.

Though that is true, I can give you my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal. I've still got the greatest enthusiasm and confidence in the mission. And I want to help you.
Edit: enjoy your time as Pope, Valarya!


To continue in good-faith as a glorified member of the unorthodox's - I also hereby abdicate my title as PFAP. Long-reign-Hal?!


Val/Hal... we might need to reign as new-pope PFAP forever, as combined we almost make valhalla...

We do completely if we take the 'A in Asthanius's name. And they were the third poster on this page...
EDIT: this is turning out to be the fourth-ish quote exchange I've gotten myself into, and I'm afraid that's something I cannot allow to happen.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Asthanius » Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:12 pm UTC

Does this mean I'm part of the Norse Pantheon?
Does anybody have any idea of what the hell energy is? It's the thing that, when applied to something, gives itself to the thing so that the thing can expend it, applying it to other things in multiple forms of it. What the hell is it?

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby StratPlayer » Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:13 pm UTC

HAL9000 wrote:
Valarya wrote:
Valarya wrote:
HAL9000 wrote:
Asthanius wrote:HAL, unfortunately, you're no longer Pope.

Though that is true, I can give you my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal. I've still got the greatest enthusiasm and confidence in the mission. And I want to help you.
Edit: enjoy your time as Pope, Valarya!


To continue in good-faith as a glorified member of the unorthodox's - I also hereby abdicate my title as PFAP. Long-reign-Hal?!


Val/Hal... we might need to reign as new-pope PFAP forever, as combined we almost make valhalla...

We do completely if we take the 'A in Asthanius's name. And they were the third poster on this page...


Wait. What? Valley HAL??? Gag me with a processor module... Totally...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HAL9000 » Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:13 pm UTC

Asthanius wrote:Does this mean I'm part of the Norse Pantheon?

Yes. All hail The Viking Pope!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby histrion » Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:14 pm UTC

Asthanius wrote:Does this mean I'm part of the Norse Pantheon?


A Norse is a Norse, of cour- *smack* HEY, THAT HURT!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Sciscitor » Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:38 pm UTC

Just an attempt to resolve the dimensionality puzzle.

Basics

To be able to analyze the OTC, one has to establish a line of reference. A lot of discussion has been going on about the dimensionality of the world Cueball and Megan are living in.

2D

Though obviously removing a lot of inconsistencies, like the function of a dyke to keep the tide at bay and the problem with the structural integrity of the scaffolding, it can not explain how it would be possible for the characters to move behind (or in front) of other things or use ropes and pulleys. So a 2D-world is neither a sufficient nor adequate assumption.

To test this theory one could analyze the small waves seen in some frames, caused by objects falling into the water (recently parts of the crumbling castle). The power of the attenuation of the waves could give hints about the dimensionality they are moving in (linear, quadratic or cubic).

3D

With this assumption the problems are just reversed: Moving around and behind objects can be explained, but there are obvious difficulties explaining the static of the scaffolding, the weight of the sand or the function of the dyke.

2.5D (Antfarm-Universe)

The world is essentially a only a meter wide slab but essentially planar. This solves most of the problems of the 2D and 3D hypotheses (as it is possible to move around objects, build dykes and still erect a high and stable structure on four poles on a line), but creates its own: Cueball and Megan are clearly seen shoveling sand up to build the castles and move behind (or in front) of them. In a flat universe there would be no space where that kind of material would come from.

Crossection of a 3D world

It would have to be a rather odd shaped crosssection to always show everything of interest going on and still would not be able to explain some of the exhibited properties. Occam's Razor cuts this one down in my opinion.

Hermeneutic explanation

Whatever is depicted in the OTC is to be taken as a symbol (well, after all, most of the religious scripts of any given faith work that way anyways). Cueball and Megan are stick figures and would not as such be able to move, live, talk or think at all. They are symbols for people and are recognized as such.
It is the same with the black, mostly flat part of the frames, which is a symbol for a liquid (which one has still to be established). The scaffolding is a symbol of a real, working and statically correct scaffolding, as is the bucket, the sand and everything else.

The symbols are of course subject to interpretation (again as in every self-concious religion) as their depiction is subject to a lot of constraints: the medium they are drawn on, artistic considerations and limitations of their creator and so on.

So the question is not how or what is drawn in the OTC but what it symbolizes. The difficulty is to deduce from the shown properties what it is, that is symbolized. Using Occam's Razor I would say if it walks like a duck, looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it with any certainty is a duck (so give that damn bird a cucumber to fly on). If what Megan builds looks like a dyke and behaves like a dyke, it in all probability symbolizes a dyke.

Having this established, abandon all speculation and deduce from observation.

Coming up: The two available sources of observation and what is revealed through them of the basic makup of the world of the OTC
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby treadman » Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:42 pm UTC

Sciscitor wrote:Just an attempt to resolve the dimensinality puzzle.
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... the function of a dyke to keep the tide at bay ...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:49 pm UTC

Sciscitor wrote:Hermeneutic explanation

Whatever is depicted in the OTC is to be taken as a symbol (well, after all, most of the religious scripts of any given faith work that way anyways). Cueball and Megan are stick figures and would not as such be able to move, live, talk or think at all. They are symbols for people and are recognized as such.
It is the same with the black, mostly flat part of the frames, which is a symbol for a liquid (which one has still to be established). The scaffolding is a symbol of a real, working and statically correct scaffolding, as is the bucket, the sand and everything else.

The symbols are of course subject to interpretation (again as in every self-concious religion) as their depiction is subject to a lot of constraints: the medium they are drawn on, artistic considerations and limitations of their creator and so on.

So the question is not how or what is drawn in the OTC but what it symbolizes. The difficulty is to deduce from the shown properties what it is, that is symbolized. Using Occam's Razor I would say if it walks like a duck, looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it with any certainty is a duck (so give that damn bird a cucumber to fly on). If what Megan builds looks like a dyke and behaves like a dyke, it in all probability symbolizes a dyke.

Having this established, abandon all speculation and deduce from observation.

Naah, this is all way too rational. Where's the fun in that? ;)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Sciscitor » Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:53 pm UTC

mscha wrote:
Sciscitor wrote:Hermeneutic explanation

Having this established, abandon all speculation and deduce from observation.

Naah, this is all way too rational. Where's the fun in that? ;)


Just wait for it...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Shepherdess » Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:57 pm UTC

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*spittakesputtercoughWHAT?!*

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Oh okay.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:00 pm UTC

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Edit: rebuild seems to be done. Megan did a decent job, here's a comparison of before & after:
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The microtrebuchet, and the ground it was standing on, appear to be lost forever.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Caswallon » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:05 pm UTC

Sciscitor wrote:Just an attempt to resolve the dimensionality puzzle.
Spoiler:
Basics

To be able to analyze the OTC, one has to establish a line of reference. A lot of discussion has been going on about the dimensionality of the world Cueball and Megan are living in.

2D

Though obviously removing a lot of inconsistencies, like the function of a dyke to keep the tide at bay and the problem with the structural integrity of the scaffolding, it can not explain how it would be possible for the characters to move behind (or in front) of other things or use ropes and pulleys. So a 2D-world is neither a sufficient nor adequate assumption.

To test this theory one could analyze the small waves seen in some frames, caused by objects falling into the water (recently parts of the crumbling castle). The power of the attenuation of the waves could give hints about the dimensionality they are moving in (linear, quadratic or cubic).

3D

With this assumption the problems are just reversed: Moving around and behind objects can be explained, but there are obvious difficulties explaining the static of the scaffolding, the weight of the sand or the function of the dyke.

2.5D (Antfarm-Universe)

The world is essentially a only a meter wide slab but essentially planar. This solves most of the problems of the 2D and 3D hypotheses (as it is possible to move around objects, build dykes and still erect a high and stable structure on four poles on a line), but creates its own: Cueball and Megan are clearly seen shoveling sand up to build the castles and move behind (or in front) of them. In a flat universe there would be no space where that kind of material would come from.

Crossection of a 3D world

It would have to be a rather odd shaped crosssection to always show everything of interest going on and still would not be able to explain some of the exhibited properties. Occam's Razor cuts this one down in my opinion.

Hermeneutic explanation

Whatever is depicted in the OTC is to be taken as a symbol (well, after all, most of the religious scripts of any given faith work that way anyways). Cueball and Megan are stick figures and would not as such be able to move, live, talk or think at all. They are symbols for people and are recognized as such.
It is the same with the black, mostly flat part of the frames, which is a symbol for a liquid (which one has still to be established). The scaffolding is a symbol of a real, working and statically correct scaffolding, as is the bucket, the sand and everything else.

The symbols are of course subject to interpretation (again as in every self-concious religion) as their depiction is subject to a lot of constraints: the medium they are drawn on, artistic considerations and limitations of their creator and so on.

So the question is not how or what is drawn in the OTC but what it symbolizes. The difficulty is to deduce from the shown properties what it is, that is symbolized. Using Occam's Razor I would say if it walks like a duck, looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it with any certainty is a duck (so give that damn bird a cucumber to fly on). If what Megan builds looks like a dyke and behaves like a dyke, it in all probability symbolizes a dyke.

Having this established, abandon all speculation and deduce from observation.

Coming up: The two available sources of observation and what is revealed through them of the basic makup of the world of the OTC
Nicely summarized, and good use of connections back to the nearly irrelevant discussions that have also taken place in this thread!

That said, I still really enjoy attempting to analyze the OTC as if it existed in a similar frame of reference or Physics to our own. And there is some precedent for this based on Randall's previous incarnations of physics comics that replicate real world conditions.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Mycroft_147 » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:09 pm UTC

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Thank you, I was trying to remember, and then to Google, just how the usual phrasing of that idea went, but eventually gave up on it and posted without it. It's exactly what I had in mind, though.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HAL9000 » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:11 pm UTC

mscha wrote:The microtrebuchet, and the ground it was standing on, appear to be lost forever.

NOOOOOO
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Febrion » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:16 pm UTC

HAL9000 wrote:
mscha wrote:The microtrebuchet, and the ground it was standing on, appear to be lost forever.

NOOOOOO

Unless, of course, some intrepid Temporal Knight will have already travelled back and pocketed said trebuchet before the accident. A noble quest indeed!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Shepherdess » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:19 pm UTC

Febrion wrote:
HAL9000 wrote:
mscha wrote:The microtrebuchet, and the ground it was standing on, appear to be lost forever.

NOOOOOO

Unless, of course, some intrepid Temporal Knight will have already travelled back and pocketed said trebuchet before the accident. A noble quest indeed!


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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Asthanius » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:22 pm UTC

Shepherdess wrote:
Febrion wrote:
HAL9000 wrote:
mscha wrote:The microtrebuchet, and the ground it was standing on, appear to be lost forever.

NOOOOOO

Unless, of course, some intrepid Temporal Knight will have already travelled back and pocketed said trebuchet before the accident. A noble quest indeed!


I'll do it, if I don't have to actually do anything.

Is this a possible paradox I see?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby GerardE » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:23 pm UTC

histrion wrote:
Asthanius wrote:Does this mean I'm part of the Norse Pantheon?


A Norse is a Norse, of cour- *smack* HEY, THAT HURT!

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Roia » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:32 pm UTC

I've not posted for a few newpages, but I've been here... Lurking... And waiting (of course).

If that flag on the far right falls into the semencoffeecancerbabies I wonder if M&C will attempt a rescue of it. Also, I'm pretty sure someone - not sure who - declared themselves the defender of that flag. That person / sandwich / breakfast dish might want to come and do their defending pretty soon or else...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Jafloi » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:32 pm UTC

silent_death wrote:
Jafloi wrote:If you had to pick just one timeframe to symbolise the whole of the One True Comic, witch would it be? I need just that for a outside-originated project, but can not decide witch to use... preferably one before NP 124, for the simplicity. Can you help?


I think it should be the first Frame...not because of the frame itself, but because of the promise it holds. With our current knowledge, this first frame is very powerful...it does not contain anything which is passed, it contains the future, it contains all the possibilites where it might lead, all the different futures and options - Together with the phrase, this oh-so simple sentence "wait for it" it is a promise that there will be something, we do not know what yet, it could be anything - this is the essence of the One True Comic.


Seems like it's going to be the first frame- unless there comes more votes the next few millipix.'

Votes this far:

First frame: 2
52th: 1
58th: 1
78th: 1
107th: 1
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Asthanius » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:35 pm UTC

Jafloi wrote:
silent_death wrote:
Jafloi wrote:If you had to pick just one timeframe to symbolise the whole of the One True Comic, witch would it be? I need just that for a outside-originated project, but can not decide witch to use... preferably one before NP 124, for the simplicity. Can you help?


I think it should be the first Frame...not because of the frame itself, but because of the promise it holds. With our current knowledge, this first frame is very powerful...it does not contain anything which is passed, it contains the future, it contains all the possibilites where it might lead, all the different futures and options - Together with the phrase, this oh-so simple sentence "wait for it" it is a promise that there will be something, we do not know what yet, it could be anything - this is the essence of the One True Comic.


Seems like it's going to be the first frame- unless there comes more votes the next few millipix.'

Votes this far:

First frame: 2
52th: 1
58th: 1
78th: 1
107th: 1

Can I second my own vote?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Eoink » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:38 pm UTC

StratPlayer wrote:
HAL9000 wrote:
Valarya wrote:
Valarya wrote:
HAL9000 wrote:
Asthanius wrote:HAL, unfortunately, you're no longer Pope.

Though that is true, I can give you my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal. I've still got the greatest enthusiasm and confidence in the mission. And I want to help you.
Edit: enjoy your time as Pope, Valarya!


To continue in good-faith as a glorified member of the unorthodox's - I also hereby abdicate my title as PFAP. Long-reign-Hal?!


Val/Hal... we might need to reign as new-pope PFAP forever, as combined we almost make valhalla...

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Roia » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:39 pm UTC

Jafloi wrote:If you had to pick just one timeframe to symbolise the whole of the One True Comic, witch would it be? I need just that for a outside-originated project, but can not decide witch to use... preferably one before NP 124, for the simplicity. Can you help?


I can't possibly choose one. Perhaps if we understood what the purpose for just-one-frame was it'd be easier to choose. Without context or the passing of time to appreciate it, I'm not sure if it would be really appreciated.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Shepherdess » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:42 pm UTC

Jafloi wrote:If you had to pick just one timeframe to symbolise the whole of the One True Comic, witch would it be? I need just that for a outside-originated project, but can not decide witch to use... preferably one before NP 124, for the simplicity. Can you help?


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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby SBN » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:49 pm UTC

Jafloi wrote:
silent_death wrote:
Jafloi wrote:If you had to pick just one timeframe to symbolise the whole of the One True Comic, witch would it be? I need just that for a outside-originated project, but can not decide witch to use... preferably one before NP 124, for the simplicity. Can you help?


I think it should be the first Frame...not because of the frame itself, but because of the promise it holds. With our current knowledge, this first frame is very powerful...it does not contain anything which is passed, it contains the future, it contains all the possibilites where it might lead, all the different futures and options - Together with the phrase, this oh-so simple sentence "wait for it" it is a promise that there will be something, we do not know what yet, it could be anything - this is the essence of the One True Comic.


Seems like it's going to be the first frame- unless there comes more votes the next few millipix.'

Votes this far:

First frame: 2
52th: 1
58th: 1
78th: 1
107th: 1


Considering that the true first frame appears to be lost forever, it might not be a great choice.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Jafloi » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:51 pm UTC

Roia wrote:
Jafloi wrote:If you had to pick just one timeframe to symbolise the whole of the One True Comic, witch would it be? I need just that for a outside-originated project, but can not decide witch to use... preferably one before NP 124, for the simplicity. Can you help?


I can't possibly choose one. Perhaps if we understood what the purpose for just-one-frame was it'd be easier to choose. Without context or the passing of time to appreciate it, I'm not sure if it would be really appreciated.


I know, and yes, without the context and the rest of the pictures it will be no more than a faded imitation. Don't know how to describe the project in a good way, other than voting for a favourite timeframe- maybe think of witch you would prefer to print and put on the wall, if you just could print one.

[quote=sthanius]
Spoiler:
[quote=jafloi]


Seems like it's going to be the first frame- unless there comes more votes the next few millipix.'

Votes this far:

First frame: 2
52th: 1
58th: 1
78th: 1
107th: 1[/quote]


Can I second my own vote?[/quote]

Think so, would not be the strangest thing to happen to this tread...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby kryton » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:51 pm UTC

Oh my aching head, how long did I coma?
Why was the Apex Bishop of the Conclave of Eastern Unorthodox TimeWaiters wearing Helper's hat?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Valarya » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:52 pm UTC

Jafloi wrote:
silent_death wrote:
Jafloi wrote:If you had to pick just one timeframe to symbolise the whole of the One True Comic, witch would it be? I need just that for a outside-originated project, but can not decide witch to use... preferably one before NP 124, for the simplicity. Can you help?


I think it should be the first Frame...not because of the frame itself, but because of the promise it holds. With our current knowledge, this first frame is very powerful...it does not contain anything which is passed, it contains the future, it contains all the possibilites where it might lead, all the different futures and options - Together with the phrase, this oh-so simple sentence "wait for it" it is a promise that there will be something, we do not know what yet, it could be anything - this is the essence of the One True Comic.


Seems like it's going to be the first frame- unless there comes more votes the next few millipix.'

Votes this far:

First frame: 2
52th: 1
78th: 2
107th: 1


The vote for '58' was actually meant for '78' because he mentions Cueball checking out Megan's ass. So: FTFY
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Roia » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:53 pm UTC

SBN wrote:
Jafloi wrote:
silent_death wrote:
Jafloi wrote:If you had to pick just one timeframe to symbolise the whole of the One True Comic, witch would it be? I need just that for a outside-originated project, but can not decide witch to use... preferably one before NP 124, for the simplicity. Can you help?


I think it should be the first Frame...not because of the frame itself, but because of the promise it holds. With our current knowledge, this first frame is very powerful...it does not contain anything which is passed, it contains the future, it contains all the possibilites where it might lead, all the different futures and options - Together with the phrase, this oh-so simple sentence "wait for it" it is a promise that there will be something, we do not know what yet, it could be anything - this is the essence of the One True Comic.


Seems like it's going to be the first frame- unless there comes more votes the next few millipix.'

Votes this far:

First frame: 2
52th: 1
58th: 1
78th: 1
107th: 1


Considering that the true first frame appears to be lost forever, it might not be a great choice.


It just occurred to me that the majority of people, myself included, have never even seen the first frame. What mysteries it must hold! The few who have seen the True First Frame perhaps have some special insight. What beauty have you seen, you who have seen the True First Frame?! Won't you share it with us lesser beings...

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Valarya » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:56 pm UTC

kryton wrote:Oh my aching head, how long did I coma?
Why was the Apex Bishop of the Conclave of Eastern Unorthodox TimeWaiters wearing Helper's hat?
Has anyone seen my hat for that matter, or my cloak, or my fuzzy slippers?
Also, I left the collection plates around here somewhere, has any one seen them?


It's been ages... but no fear, silent_death has picked up the plate-duties and has already collected several useful things* which do NOT include hats because we don't get hungup on all that hat stuff


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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Jafloi » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:57 pm UTC

Valarya wrote:
Spoiler:
Jafloi wrote:
silent_death wrote:
Jafloi wrote:If you had to pick just one timeframe to symbolise the whole of the One True Comic, witch would it be? I need just that for a outside-originated project, but can not decide witch to use... preferably one before NP 124, for the simplicity. Can you help?


I think it should be the first Frame...not because of the frame itself, but because of the promise it holds. With our current knowledge, this first frame is very powerful...it does not contain anything which is passed, it contains the future, it contains all the possibilites where it might lead, all the different futures and options - Together with the phrase, this oh-so simple sentence "wait for it" it is a promise that there will be something, we do not know what yet, it could be anything - this is the essence of the One True Comic.


Seems like it's going to be the first frame- unless there comes more votes the next few millipix.'

Votes this far:

First frame: 2
52th: 1
78th: 2
107th: 1


The vote for '58' was actually meant for '78' because he mentions Cueball checking out Megan's ass. So: FTFY


Update:
First frame*: 3
25th:1
52th: 1
78th: 2
107th: 1

Edit: *Because I am not Lord Randall the Almighty, the "first" frame referred to is the first at http://xkcd.aubronwood.com/time
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby lmjb1964 » Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:00 pm UTC

OK, I so don't have the graphics skills of, say, a cmyk or mscha, but doesn't it look like they're building a copy of the castle on the left up there on the platform?

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Exodies » Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:00 pm UTC

mscha wrote:Sea level rise, and castle crumbling, since just after the sea wall collapsed, some 16newpix ago.
Time_sea_level_rise_20130417_1100.png

(As always, red removed, green added.)

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby histrion » Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:06 pm UTC

Jafloi wrote:
silent_death wrote:
Jafloi wrote:If you had to pick just one timeframe to symbolise the whole of the One True Comic, witch would it be? I need just that for a outside-originated project, but can not decide witch to use... preferably one before NP 124, for the simplicity. Can you help?


I think it should be the first Frame...not because of the frame itself, but because of the promise it holds. With our current knowledge, this first frame is very powerful...it does not contain anything which is passed, it contains the future, it contains all the possibilites where it might lead, all the different futures and options - Together with the phrase, this oh-so simple sentence "wait for it" it is a promise that there will be something, we do not know what yet, it could be anything - this is the essence of the One True Comic.


Seems like it's going to be the first frame- unless there comes more votes the next few millipix.'

Votes this far:

First frame: 2
52th: 1
58th: 1
78th: 1
107th: 1


I could have sworn someone seconded my vote for 78.

ETA: Never mind.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby SBN » Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:07 pm UTC

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