1190: "Time"

[lassehp]

I just went away for a few timepix, visiting my parents and watching JTTCOTT, and all of a sudden the mood in this thread seem almost apocalyptic? What's with you guys? Don't you know? Time can be rewritten...

/Lasse
thinking Randall could have a great career as story-writer for DW...

[mscha]

Judging from the waves caused by the sliding sand, the internal flow of time has speeded up a lot from previous frames. You can still see rather high waves tapering out over two, maybe three frames after a landslide.

Doesn't that mean time has slowed down? Less time passes between frames?

You are right: The frame rate sped up.

Could be. The sea¹ level rise has slowed down drastically in the last few frames as well.
This confirms the theory that the frame rate slows down when nothing is happening and speeds up again when there's activity - and that includes towers collapsing, apparently.
Too bad the fading speed is apparently related to the frames, not to Inside time.

¹: see previous umptythree posts.

[buffygirl]

For macraw83

[mscha]

MORWONGGGGGGGG...

-- posted by newpixbot

Edit: jumped from #171717 to #191919.

[buffygirl]

Snipped for space.. but the below is for Buffygirl:
[spoiler]

Dude/tte, you want a BuffyGirl hat, you ask for a BuffyGirl hat. You receive a BuffyGirl hat, don't ask for another. You receive a BuffyGirl Hat and throw it into the back of your closet, don't ask for another.

You want to design your own hat, then design your own hat . . . and accept the wrath of the BufferDashery, because Buffy is the Maker of All Hats.

I love you. I'm not a lesbian. but I love you.

Oh! Why ....... thank you! I ... I love you too! oh wait, you meant in a non-lesbian way, didn't you ... yeah, that's what I meant too...

[azule]

Count me among those who have not died. I'm still here, for there is still Time.

Nice try, but you might die by the End of Time. Come back in a *muffled*-pix.

p.s. woot! another live one!

Do we need to take a register¹?

¹Am I right in thinking this is called a roll call in the US?

Correct terminology.

[BytEfLUSh]

Oooh, BlitzGirl is online... I envy her, still being in the Past, before the big fade out...

Edit: And, she's gone

[azule]

Oooh, BlitzGirl is online... I envy her, still being in the Past, before the big fade out...

Edit: And, she's gone

It feels like we're stalking her. But she wanted that, didn't she? Right? Right?

[buffygirl]

@Eternal Density - I am having difficulty with your Hat .... nothing I do seems quite Worthy of River. Although that is actually a Summer Glau pic, not a River pic, yes? Maybe that's my mental barrier ... At any rate I will have something for you soon ... ish ...

Edit: Ahh, no, it is indeed River. *sigh*

[Eternal Density]

(Though I'm not 100% sure what the thing I'm holding is. A leopard?)

FTFY

I thought you had written p.o.n.y. because I have a tampermonkey filter which changes that to leopard. Even though I'm writing on my phone which doesn't have it. And I only realised that halfway through writing.

Also, sorry for being depressing.

[edit] Ninja'd by hat news! I guess one might say this hat is problematic Anyhow, do whatever you think is best and it will be awesome. The River is Small!

[lmjb1964]

Puh-leeze. Page 170, bitches! (And with a followup reference to the Wikipedia article a bit further down.)

Added rather later: Actually, I've turned up my even earlier suggestion of the same, on page 117.

Oops! Sorry, KarMann! Well, you should have brought this up during our earlier discussion on page 351. Then we could have avoided all this. Maybe. Although, at this point I think everything's been brought up at least twice in this thread,

Quite a change from when I last checked the comic, maybe 7 newpix ago. Thanks for all the graphs and analysis, everyone! I really want this to Not Fade Away, but it looks to be inevitable.

[Smithers]

It's been a while since I posted last, maybe I'm running out of things to say; maybe I'm just too tired after each coma+outsider duties+thread catchup cycle. Anyway, I thought it was time to update this chart:

It has been more NewPages than usual since the last BlitzGirl update. I hope she's okay.

[buffygirl]

@Neil_Boekend - just for shits 'n' giggles:

Spoiler:

yes, still working on your hat

[mscha]

DAYLONGGGGGGGG...

-- posted by newpixbot

[AluisioASG]

@Eternal Density - I am having difficulty with your Hat .... nothing I do seems quite Worthy of River. Although that is actually a Summer Glau pic, not a River pic, yes? Maybe that's my mental barrier ... At any rate I will have something for you soon ... ish ...

Edit: Ahh, no, it is indeed River. *sigh*

May I humbly suggest a sombrero?
(Don't ask, it just came to me... like La Petite.)

[melthengylf]

How about a logistic curve?

[buffygirl]

For Neil_Boekend

[descor]

DAYLONGGGGGGGG...

Spoiler:

-- posted by newpixbot

Still 0x19

[Vytron]

Yes! I did it! I did it!

I've read 214 pages of the thread! This means I started at 0% and I'm now at 50%, which is the crucial point at which I realize that, yeah, I can read it all! Eventually.

Wait a minute. What the heck. My math doesn't add up...

Suppose the thread advances 11 pages daily, and I read 10.

Then, tomorrow, it'll be at page 439, and I've read up to 224. That's 51.025%

If we continue at that rate, then...

234/450=52%
244/461=52.928%
254/472=53.8%

My percentage keeps raising even though every day I'm one page more away from the end? And then...

354/582=60.82%
454/692=65.6%
554/802=69%

Isn't this some kind of paradox?

1054/1352=77.9%
1554/1902=81%
2054/2452=83.76%

This feels like the Zeno's paradox where I keep making progress but never quite reach the end.

3054/3552=85.97%
4054/4652=87.14%
5054/5752=87.86%

Yup. I'm measuring my progress wrong, and having managed to reach 50% of the thread doesn't actually mean anything.

Carry on.

(And to think it'll take me a long while still to read what is being posted now. Five new post just ninja'd me. That's scary...)

[descor]

Yes! I did it! I did it!

I've read 214 pages of the thread! This means I started at 0% and I'm now at 50%, which is the crucial point at which I realize that, yeah, I can read it all! Eventually.
<snip>
Yup. I'm measuring my progress wrong, and having managed to reach 50% of the thread doesn't actually mean anything.

Carry on.

(And to think it'll take me a long while still to read what is being posted now. Five new post just ninja'd me. That's scary...)

When you finally get here Vytron I hope there is still Time for you to continue

Either way, congratulations on making it this far and I hope your paradoxes resolve themselves.

[ChronosDragon]

Man this is depressing! Walltextcomatime:

Nope.

A day in the Outside has left me around five pages behind... but if anybody is interested, this is now updating with viewer locations-

Looks like you in our former colonies outnumber the rest of the world combined!

Awesome! I'm at least 2 of the 4 dots in Russia! And I'm not even Russian!

This blast from the past brought to you by: Guy who is traveling half a world away from home and rarely has internet access, loading all of the pages into NewTabs in FF every chance he gets

Every time this graph gets bumped, it gets more data points. Bump the graph!

A black pixel appears and starts growing until the two faces are outlined. It is coming from an object in the Childlike Beret-Wearer's hand. BlitzGirl looks at it.

BlitzGirl: What is that?
Childlike Beret-Wearer: One grain of sandcoffeesnowbabby. It is all that remains of my vast empire.
BlitzGirl: Time has totally disappeared?
Childlike Beret-Wearer: Yes.
BlitzGirl: Then, everything's been in vain.
Childlike Beret-Wearer: No, it hasn't. Time can arise anew, from your dreams and wishes, BlitzGirl.
BlitzGirl: How?
Childlike Beret-Wearer: Open your hand.

She puts the grain into BlitzGirl's hand, and she looks at it.

Childlike Beret-Wearer: What are you going to wish for ?
BlitzGirl: I don't know.
Childlike Beret-Wearer: Then there will be no Time any more.
BlitzGirl: How many wishes do I get?
Childlike Beret-Wearer: As many as you want. And the more wishes you make, the more magnificent Time will become.[/spoiler]

That's...beautiful...Glad I wasn't the only one who made the connection to the Nothing

Yeah. I was thinking we'll just have to assume their demise. If anyone who's posted in the OTT does not post near the end when the "end" comes, we'll assume such and we'll all mourn for them together.

edit: choices and spelling.

So depressing!

Prediction: The fade to white will be a time fade. We will pick up after their adventure concludes. During the fade out we get to preview the destruction of the sea. During fade in, we see LaPetite barely escaping. ~30 frames is plenty of time for her to disappear and for M&C to then appear after full fade in.

Maybe we will see LaPetite entering in the last few frames of the fading.

That's a possibility. Fits in well still.

I must believe so, or all is lost. She is our last hope!

It has jumped from RGB(14,14,14) to RGB(16,16,16) or HEX #101010. My prediction has also jumped from 1027 to 1012.

Edit: Also part of the castle is falling down into water.

The poor castle! They worked so hard!

In short, I refuse to believe this is the end. Anyway, why would Randall spend a good 10% of the comic just fading to white? It doesn't add up.

[buffygirl]

Do-over for macraw83

[vvn]

Besides being impossible to isolate a quark and all that; if you wanted a single quark I'm guessing you'd at least need your own LHC at the piffling cost of $9billion.

They are much cheaper in the bulk assorted mix.

[AluisioASG]

HATLONG

EDIT: fixed link. Y U NOT SELF-UPDATE ANYMORE?

[mscha]

Retroninja'd.

Spoiler:

DIPHTHONGGGGGGGG...

-- posted by newpixbot

[descor]

Besides being impossible to isolate a quark and all that; if you wanted a single quark I'm guessing you'd at least need your own LHC at the piffling cost of $9billion.

They are much cheaper in the bulk assorted mix.

Quarks or LHCs?

[slinches]

Edit: spoiler contains future Time.

Spoiler:

Ninja'd while I was trying to figure out why there was no hash. I saw the new frame, but the file name was time.png. Also, gray level is now at #1d1d1d.

[ChronosDragon]

DIPHTHONGGGGGGGG...

-- posted by newpixbot

newpixbotglitch? Or did AlusioASG edit his post?

[pitareio]

Yes! I did it! I did it!

I've read 214 pages of the thread! This means I started at 0% and I'm now at 50%, which is the crucial point at which I realize that, yeah, I can read it all! Eventually.

Wait a minute. What the heck. My math doesn't add up...

Suppose the thread advances 11 pages daily, and I read 10.

Then, tomorrow, it'll be at page 439, and I've read up to 224. That's 51.025%

If we continue at that rate, then...

234/450=52%
244/461=52.928%
254/472=53.8%

My percentage keeps raising even though every day I'm one page more away from the end? And then...

354/582=60.82%
454/692=65.6%
554/802=69%

Isn't this some kind of paradox?

1054/1352=77.9%
1554/1902=81%
2054/2452=83.76%

This feels like the Zeno's paradox where I keep making progress but never quite reach the end.

3054/3552=85.97%
4054/4652=87.14%
5054/5752=87.86%

Yup. I'm measuring my progress wrong, and having managed to reach 50% of the thread doesn't actually mean anything.

Carry on.

(And to think it'll take me a long while still to read what is being posted now. Five new post just ninja'd me. That's scary...)

There's no paradox here. The limit of your progress as the number of pages tends to infinity would be 10/11, about 90.90%, but would never be higher.

[patzer]

the images posted by newpixbot and aluisio have different hashes. which is correct?

[azule]

What's going on? Why did newpixbot post with a different hash?

AluisioASG: 6537b69ebb7a8a8e8b7799389473ba655f1c273c44d66298ec8b2d335ad0a719
newpixbot: 0d3e0834f82315e467af8353c4736f3b74b41ee8c137eee9f7319c56a1feefd3

*puzzled*

EDIT: AluisioASG's hash is from 2 newpix ago. *leers*

[vvn]

Besides being impossible to isolate a quark and all that; if you wanted a single quark I'm guessing you'd at least need your own LHC at the piffling cost of $9billion.

They are much cheaper in the bulk assorted mix.

Quarks or LHCs?

Probably both, but I meant quarks.

Edit to avoid DP.

Ok just checked in Chrome, Firefox and IE 10:

Chrome: #151515
Firefox: #000000
IE10: #010101

Like I always say, use a browser that works.

But, it only works on an operating system that doesn't. (Sorry, Sorry. Reflex. Sorry)

Now will everyone please pronounce the 'Y' in Hyundai. It's not like English speakers can't combine the 'H' sound with the 'Y' sound. Consider the words huge, humid and Houston.

You know some parts of the country pronounce it "How-sten"? (Sorry, I don't know the proper phonetic characters.)

[Roia]

I wish I understood what hashes were and what they meant. I feel like I'm missing out on an integral part of Time. Everything I read about them just confuses me more though.

[SBN]

Besides being impossible to isolate a quark and all that; if you wanted a single quark I'm guessing you'd at least need your own LHC at the piffling cost of $9billion.

They are much cheaper in the bulk assorted mix.

Quarks or LHCs?

Probably both, but I meant quarks.

If you get a big enough quark-pack, the LHC is included. Some assembly required.

[mscha]

DIPHTHONGGGGGGGG...

-- posted by newpixbot

newpixbotglitch? Or did AlusioASG edit his post?

Neither. (newpixbot hasn't glitched yet.)
As azule already noted, AluisioASG's newpix is two newpics old.

Also, we jumped all the way from #191919 to #1d1d1d!

[Angelastic]

That's...beautiful...Glad I wasn't the only one who made the connection to the Nothing

And I'm glad I wasn't the only one.

Besides being impossible to isolate a quark and all that; if you wanted a single quark I'm guessing you'd at least need your own LHC at the piffling cost of $9billion.

Well the existing LHC cost around $6billion^µ, not counting detectors and computing, but if you assumed that cost was in fact for the SHC, and that the cost per quark accelerated were constant, then the LHC would be $9billion. I reckon it's much easier to just pop down to the Migros and buy some quark though.

^µGoing by the figure (in CHF, but they're pretty similar to USD) in the really interesting information booklet given out to volunteers at the 2008 open day, because it is newer and probably more thoroughly checked by more people than this page that says CHF4.6billion. It could be that there are better sources around now, but I put a fair bit of effort into finding the most reliable figures and references (which were not always the ones on wikipedia) for this and various other LHC-related things in September last year and I can't be bothered redoing that right now.

Edit: I'm not sure if the first-on-a-page PFAP rule is still observed, but I'm the pope so I say it is. I'm pope! Yay! Everyone gets cake!^æ
æParticipants are expected to provide their own cake.

[azule]

I wish I understood what hashes were and what they meant. I feel like I'm missing out on an integral part of Time. Everything I read about them just confuses me more though.

Nothing much to understand. Without understanding how the hashes are derived, simply knowing that they are unique (essentially random) and nearly impossible to crack, means each newpix we get a new hash and cannot guess any futurepix. The hashes are in the place of simple ordinal numbers (pic1, pic2, pic3, etc.). Main thing to note is that in our past there has been more than one pic in a Timeframe, with unique hashes too (not necessarily unique pics).

Edit to clarify: The hashes we speak of are the filenames that we get from the site's redirect of the comic (time.png) through the javascript that gets us the actual up-to-date frame.

[vvn]

Has anyone considered the possibility that Randall has a full blown animation of Time, and we are only being shown the occasional frame?

[patzer]

I converted the latest image to a .jpg, like someone suggested.


Now I have a problem
Do I put the original PNGs on the wiki, or do I convert the images to JPGs so they are displayed correctly?

[azule]

Now I have a problem
Do I put the original PNGs on the wiki, or do I convert the images to JPGs so they are displayed correctly?

Originals, with a note. The transition is perceivable and that's the important thing.