1190: "Time"

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby edfel » Thu May 02, 2013 6:11 pm UTC

After more than 20k posts, one could think we could be closer to understanding what is really going on in this comic (best way to guess at what it is we are waiting for). As far as I've seen by lurking around here, there are lots of scattered theories which are not always diverging. Blitzgirl and other blitzers might be the ones remembering best what's been said.

So, I'd like to know y'all ideas about this and that, just to see if we are somewhere near a consensus

First thing first:
1) Where are M&C ?
a- some fantasy world, nothing like anything we know
b- some fantasy world with lots of similarities with earth (but still, no wind, etc.) Somehow like 1110's...
c- earth (nowadays), that would explain the Ikea (see 4)
d- earth, in the past -> but then, when in the past.
e- earth, in the future -> so what happened in between so that some rivers "have not yet reached the sea"
f- other

2) What have they done all the time before being on the beach?
a- nothing, they just popped into existence. With the knowledge of what a castle should look like, and how to build a trebuchet.
b- they had a normal life, they know what a castle looks like but they happen to have [originally] no idea how many rivers there are
c- they had an almost normal life, but lost memories somehow
d- other

3) How many people in this world?
a- like earth: lots of them, we just don't see them
b- just a few (M&C, LaPetite, and presumably some others....)
c- other

3) Where do they take their supplies from ? Did they pay for all this ?
a- Ikea or similar. They just parked their car out of frame, and paid by credit cards.
b- the supplies just happened to lay there somewhere around
c- they manufactured everything from scratch
b- other

And other fundamental questions :
4) Are there cats where they are? (At least there are hats)
5) Will they ever meet Santa Claus?
6) What question should we ask to understand ?
Waiting for it: Map of Time, same, no JS, Ages of Time.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby StratPlayer » Thu May 02, 2013 6:11 pm UTC

buffygirl wrote:KETCHUP


Just a Forum Where I Used to Post
Spoiler:
StratPlayer wrote:Alright, miniBlitz over -- now ketchup'ed again...
*snip*

And yet... I sometimes wonder if there aren't some ex-TimeWaiters who think like this:
Just a Forum Where I Used to Post
(based on "Somebody That I Used to Know" by Gotye)
Now and then I think of when Time was forever
Back when I said the Wait for It would never die
Told myself that I would always be
There in the forum with my company
But that was then; now It's a thing I just remember

You can get addicted to a certain kind of madness
Like dedication to a trend -- but then it ends
So I have found something different since,
and forgotten all those forum friends
But I'll admit I sometimes wonder why it's over

But I decided I had to cut it off
Make out like it never happened and that it was nothing
Now I don't even need it much
Yes, I've become a stranger -- never try to keep in touch
No real reason why I had to go
leave my friends to Wait For It without me and change my number
I guess that's just the way it goes...
Now it's just a forum where I used to post.

Now it's just a forum where I used to post,
Now it's just a forum where I used to post.

A forum
(I used to post)
A forum
(Now it's just a forum where I used to post)

Happy 500th, all!!!

Love that!


Thank you kindly, my most-divine hatress*! Nothing like a dash of buffydashery to brighten up your day. :) And awesome new avatar, BTW!

* I need to be careful to enunciate clearly when I say that while my wife is around...

And on a not-entirely-unrelated topic: Is anyone besides me really starting to wonder what's become of the sandcastle? Has it been submerged? Did LePetite save it? My curiosity has led me to this:

Spoiler:
"Toppled by the Sea?"
(Based on "Rollin' in the Deep" by Adele)


There's desire, starting in my heart
Reaching a fever pitch; I hate bein' in the dark!
Why oh why, can't you make it clear?
Go 'head and let me know: What happened over there?
See how I plead, with everything I do?
Don't underestimate -- Yes, others want it too!

There's desire, starting in my heart
Reaching a fever pitch
Yes, I hate bein' in the dark!

The castle we loved; is it in the dust?
I keep thinking that we should have seen it fall
The castle we loved! Don't leave me clueless...

I can't help feeling,
we should have seen it fall.
Toppled by the sea?
You'd rather show the hike 'cross the sand;
But the castle??? In the sea????

Randall, I ask, if I may be so bold:
There's something you could do.
Because I really want to learn,
in any way that you would like to share.
Is it standing there?
Yes, Is the castle there???

The castle we loved; is it in the dust?
I keep thinking that we should have seen it fall
The castle we loved! Don't leave me clueless...

I can't help feeling,
we should have seen it fall!
Toppled by the sea!
You'd rather show them wander the sand,
while the castle's in the sea????

We should have seen it fall!
Toppled by the sea!
You'd rather show them stroll the sand,
But the castle?
The castle;
the castle!
The castle's in the sea?


See what happens when you guys encourage me??? :wink:
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby SBN » Thu May 02, 2013 6:14 pm UTC

edfel wrote:After more than 20k posts, one could think we could be closer to understanding what is really going on in this comic (best way to guess at what it is we are waiting for). As far as I've seen by lurking around here, there are lots of scattered theories which are not always diverging. Blitzgirl and other blitzers might be the ones remembering best what's been said.

So, I'd like to know y'all ideas about this and that, just to see if we are somewhere near a consensus

First thing first:
Spoiler:
1) Where are M&C ?
a- some fantasy world, nothing like anything we know
b- some fantasy world with lots of similarities with earth (but still, no wind, etc.) Somehow like 1110's...
c- earth (nowadays), that would explain the Ikea (see 4)
d- earth, in the past -> but then, when in the past.
e- earth, in the future -> so what happened in between so that some rivers "have not yet reached the sea"
f- other

2) What have they done all the time before being on the beach?
a- nothing, they just popped into existence. With the knowledge of what a castle should look like, and how to build a trebuchet.
b- they had a normal life, they know what a castle looks like but they happen to have [originally] no idea how many rivers there are
c- they had an almost normal life, but lost memories somehow
d- other

3) How many people in this world?
a- like earth: lots of them, we just don't see them
b- just a few (M&C, LaPetite, and presumably some others....)
c- other

3) Where do they take their supplies from ? Did they pay for all this ?
a- Ikea or similar. They just parked their car out of frame, and paid by credit cards.
b- the supplies just happened to lay there somewhere around
c- they manufactured everything from scratch
b- other

And other fundamental questions :
4) Are there cats where they are? (At least there are hats)
5) Will they ever meet Santa Claus?
6) What question should we ask to understand ?

I believe our command is to Wait for it, not to Figure it out.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mk_chem » Thu May 02, 2013 6:15 pm UTC

randall-dammit, why are all my posts flagged as spam (ok, this is my second post, but still!)

i just tried to qoute AluisioASG's post about trying to view the difference images through stereoscopic glasses (tried it, doesn't look like much) and wrot one line as an answer... still spam.

is this normal, that users with low number of posts get EVERY message with any link inside marked as spam?

anyway, wanted to say how great the OTC, the OTT and the OTPOTOTC ("one true people of the one true comic") are!

greetings from germany.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Montov » Thu May 02, 2013 6:15 pm UTC

edfel wrote:After more than 20k posts, one could think we could be closer to understanding what is really going on in this comic (best way to guess at what it is we are waiting for). As far as I've seen by lurking around here, there are lots of scattered theories which are not always diverging. Blitzgirl and other blitzers might be the ones remembering best what's been said.

So, I'd like to know y'all ideas about this and that, just to see if we are somewhere near a consensus

First thing first:
1) Where are M&C ?
a- some fantasy world, nothing like anything we know
b- some fantasy world with lots of similarities with earth (but still, no wind, etc.) Somehow like 1110's...
c- earth (nowadays), that would explain the Ikea (see 4)
d- earth, in the past -> but then, when in the past.
e- earth, in the future -> so what happened in between so that some rivers "have not yet reached the sea"
f- other

2) What have they done all the time before being on the beach?
a- nothing, they just popped into existence. With the knowledge of what a castle should look like, and how to build a trebuchet.
b- they had a normal life, they know what a castle looks like but they happen to have [originally] no idea how many rivers there are
c- they had an almost normal life, but lost memories somehow
d- other

3) How many people in this world?
a- like earth: lots of them, we just don't see them
b- just a few (M&C, LaPetite, and presumably some others....)
c- other

3) Where do they take their supplies from ? Did they pay for all this ?
a- Ikea or similar. They just parked their car out of frame, and paid by credit cards.
b- the supplies just happened to lay there somewhere around
c- they manufactured everything from scratch
b- other

And other fundamental questions :
4) Are there cats where they are? (At least there are hats)
5) Will they ever meet Santa Claus?
6) What question should we ask to understand ?


I like your curiosity. You should be the new pope.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby edfel » Thu May 02, 2013 6:17 pm UTC

SBN wrote:
edfel wrote:After more than 20k posts, one could think we could be closer to understanding what is really going on in this comic (best way to guess at what it is we are waiting for). As far as I've seen by lurking around here, there are lots of scattered theories which are not always diverging. Blitzgirl and other blitzers might be the ones remembering best what's been said.

So, I'd like to know y'all ideas about this and that, just to see if we are somewhere near a consensus

First thing first:
Spoiler:
1) Where are M&C ?
a- some fantasy world, nothing like anything we know
b- some fantasy world with lots of similarities with earth (but still, no wind, etc.) Somehow like 1110's...
c- earth (nowadays), that would explain the Ikea (see 4)
d- earth, in the past -> but then, when in the past.
e- earth, in the future -> so what happened in between so that some rivers "have not yet reached the sea"
f- other

2) What have they done all the time before being on the beach?
a- nothing, they just popped into existence. With the knowledge of what a castle should look like, and how to build a trebuchet.
b- they had a normal life, they know what a castle looks like but they happen to have [originally] no idea how many rivers there are
c- they had an almost normal life, but lost memories somehow
d- other

3) How many people in this world?
a- like earth: lots of them, we just don't see them
b- just a few (M&C, LaPetite, and presumably some others....)
c- other

3) Where do they take their supplies from ? Did they pay for all this ?
a- Ikea or similar. They just parked their car out of frame, and paid by credit cards.
b- the supplies just happened to lay there somewhere around
c- they manufactured everything from scratch
b- other

And other fundamental questions :
4) Are there cats where they are? (At least there are hats)
5) Will they ever meet Santa Claus?
6) What question should we ask to understand ?

I believe our command is to Wait for it, not to Figure it out.

Don't see why we couldn't do both...
Waiting for it: Map of Time, same, no JS, Ages of Time.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby AluisioASG » Thu May 02, 2013 6:19 pm UTC

SBN wrote:
edfel wrote:After more than 20k posts, one could think we could be closer to understanding what is really going on in this comic (best way to guess at what it is we are waiting for). As far as I've seen by lurking around here, there are lots of scattered theories which are not always diverging. Blitzgirl and other blitzers might be the ones remembering best what's been said.

So, I'd like to know y'all ideas about this and that, just to see if we are somewhere near a consensus

First thing first:
Spoiler:
1) Where are M&C ?
a- some fantasy world, nothing like anything we know
b- some fantasy world with lots of similarities with earth (but still, no wind, etc.) Somehow like 1110's...
c- earth (nowadays), that would explain the Ikea (see 4)
d- earth, in the past -> but then, when in the past.
e- earth, in the future -> so what happened in between so that some rivers "have not yet reached the sea"
f- other

2) What have they done all the time before being on the beach?
a- nothing, they just popped into existence. With the knowledge of what a castle should look like, and how to build a trebuchet.
b- they had a normal life, they know what a castle looks like but they happen to have [originally] no idea how many rivers there are
c- they had an almost normal life, but lost memories somehow
d- other

3) How many people in this world?
a- like earth: lots of them, we just don't see them
b- just a few (M&C, LaPetite, and presumably some others....)
c- other

3) Where do they take their supplies from ? Did they pay for all this ?
a- Ikea or similar. They just parked their car out of frame, and paid by credit cards.
b- the supplies just happened to lay there somewhere around
c- they manufactured everything from scratch
b- other

And other fundamental questions :
4) Are there cats where they are? (At least there are hats)
5) Will they ever meet Santa Claus?
6) What question should we ask to understand ?

I believe our command is to Wait for it, not to Figure it out.

1b2a3b
Also, why can't we wait for it while we figure it out?

mk_chem wrote:randall-dammit, why are all my posts flagged as spam (ok, this is my second post, but still!)

i just tried to qoute AluisioASG's post about trying to view the difference images through stereoscopic glasses (tried it, doesn't look like much) and wrot one line as an answer... still spam.

is this normal, that users with low number of posts get EVERY message with any link inside marked as spam?

anyway, wanted to say how great the OTC, the OTT and the OTPOTOTC ("one true people of the one true comic") are!

greetings from germany.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Caswallon » Thu May 02, 2013 6:21 pm UTC

edfel wrote:After more than 20k posts, one could think we could be closer to understanding what is really going on in this comic (best way to guess at what it is we are waiting for). As far as I've seen by lurking around here, there are lots of scattered theories which are not always diverging. Blitzgirl and other blitzers might be the ones remembering best what's been said.

So, I'd like to know y'all ideas about this and that, just to see if we are somewhere near a consensus

Spoiler:
First thing first:
1) Where are M&C ?
a- some fantasy world, nothing like anything we know
b- some fantasy world with lots of similarities with earth (but still, no wind, etc.) Somehow like 1110's...
c- earth (nowadays), that would explain the Ikea (see 4)
d- earth, in the past -> but then, when in the past.
e- earth, in the future -> so what happened in between so that some rivers "have not yet reached the sea"
f- other

2) What have they done all the time before being on the beach?
a- nothing, they just popped into existence. With the knowledge of what a castle should look like, and how to build a trebuchet.
b- they had a normal life, they know what a castle looks like but they happen to have [originally] no idea how many rivers there are
c- they had an almost normal life, but lost memories somehow
d- other

3) How many people in this world?
a- like earth: lots of them, we just don't see them
b- just a few (M&C, LaPetite, and presumably some others....)
c- other

3) Where do they take their supplies from ? Did they pay for all this ?
a- Ikea or similar. They just parked their car out of frame, and paid by credit cards.
b- the supplies just happened to lay there somewhere around
c- they manufactured everything from scratch
b- other

And other fundamental questions :
4) Are there cats where they are? (At least there are hats)
5) Will they ever meet Santa Claus?
6) What question should we ask to understand ?

1)Where are M&C ?
  • Spaceship: e.g. RAMA
2) What have they done all the time before being on the beach?
  • Had their memories wiped, or were refugees dropped off there with no other knowledge
3a) How many people in this world?
  • Very few, right now just 3.
3b) Where do they take their supplies from ? Did they pay for all this ?
  • Derelict Storeroom on the ship and supplies from the escape pod/transfer vehicle they were on
4) Are there cats where they are? (At least there are hats)
  • Not until they are invaded by the Space Cats from planet Felinus!
5) Will they ever meet Santa Claus?
  • They are in Space, there is no Space Santa Claus! However there is a Space Krampus....
6) What question should we ask to understand ?
  • We must simply ponder, and "Wait for it."
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby StratPlayer » Thu May 02, 2013 6:21 pm UTC

edfel wrote:After more than 20k posts, one could think we could be closer to understanding what is really going on in this comic (best way to guess at what it is we are waiting for). As far as I've seen by lurking around here, there are lots of scattered theories which are not always diverging. Blitzgirl and other blitzers might be the ones remembering best what's been said.

So, I'd like to know y'all ideas about this and that, just to see if we are somewhere near a consensus

First thing first:
1) Where are M&C ?
a- some fantasy world, nothing like anything we know
b- some fantasy world with lots of similarities with earth (but still, no wind, etc.) Somehow like 1110's...
c- earth (nowadays), that would explain the Ikea (see 4)
d- earth, in the past -> but then, when in the past.
e- earth, in the future -> so what happened in between so that some rivers "have not yet reached the sea"
f- other

2) What have they done all the time before being on the beach?
a- nothing, they just popped into existence. With the knowledge of what a castle should look like, and how to build a trebuchet.
b- they had a normal life, they know what a castle looks like but they happen to have [originally] no idea how many rivers there are
c- they had an almost normal life, but lost memories somehow
d- other

3) How many people in this world?
a- like earth: lots of them, we just don't see them
b- just a few (M&C, LaPetite, and presumably some others....)
c- other

3) Where do they take their supplies from ? Did they pay for all this ?
a- Ikea or similar. They just parked their car out of frame, and paid by credit cards.
b- the supplies just happened to lay there somewhere around
c- they manufactured everything from scratch
b- other

And other fundamental questions :
4) Are there cats where they are? (At least there are hats)
5) Will they ever meet Santa Claus?
6) What question should we ask to understand ?


Excellent, well-thought-out questions... My take is:

1) f -- they're in a fictional, non-rational, alternate reality known as the Randallverse. There may, or may not, be much similarity to our own reality, depending on the desired punchline

2) a -- they were in the pseudo-quantum state known as "not drawn yet"

3) c -- as many as Lord Randall wishes to draw...

3') d -- they were pulled from the hammerverse, the same rift in space-time that allows Bugs Bunny to pull a sledgehammer from behind his back

4) Yes. Cats and raptors and all manners of cuddly critters
5) Perhaps. If they're at the same dinner party and are formally introduced. Once simply can't approach Santa without an introduction
6) Why is '3' used twice? What is the cosmic significance of this???
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby jetpac » Thu May 02, 2013 6:22 pm UTC

StratPlayer wrote:
buffygirl wrote:KETCHUP


Just a Forum Where I Used to Post
Spoiler:
StratPlayer wrote:Alright, miniBlitz over -- now ketchup'ed again...
*snip*

And yet... I sometimes wonder if there aren't some ex-TimeWaiters who think like this:
Just a Forum Where I Used to Post
(based on "Somebody That I Used to Know" by Gotye)
Now and then I think of when Time was forever
Back when I said the Wait for It would never die
Told myself that I would always be
There in the forum with my company
But that was then; now It's a thing I just remember

You can get addicted to a certain kind of madness
Like dedication to a trend -- but then it ends
So I have found something different since,
and forgotten all those forum friends
But I'll admit I sometimes wonder why it's over

But I decided I had to cut it off
Make out like it never happened and that it was nothing
Now I don't even need it much
Yes, I've become a stranger -- never try to keep in touch
No real reason why I had to go
leave my friends to Wait For It without me and change my number
I guess that's just the way it goes...
Now it's just a forum where I used to post.

Now it's just a forum where I used to post,
Now it's just a forum where I used to post.

A forum
(I used to post)
A forum
(Now it's just a forum where I used to post)

Happy 500th, all!!!

Love that!


Thank you kindly, my most-divine hatress*! Nothing like a dash of buffydashery to brighten up your day. :) And awesome new avatar, BTW!

* I need to be careful to enunciate clearly when I say that while my wife is around...

And on a not-entirely-unrelated topic: Is anyone besides me really starting to wonder what's become of the sandcastle? Has it been submerged? Did LePetite save it? My curiosity has led me to this:

Spoiler:
"Toppled by the Sea?"
(Based on "Rollin' in the Deep" by Adele)


There's desire, starting in my heart
Reaching a fever pitch; I hate bein' in the dark!
Why oh why, can't you make it clear?
Go 'head and let me know: What happened over there?
See how I plead, with everything I do?
Don't underestimate -- Yes, others want it too!

There's desire, starting in my heart
Reaching a fever pitch
Yes, I hate bein' in the dark!

The castle we loved; is it in the dust?
I keep thinking that we should have seen it fall
The castle we loved! Don't leave me clueless...

I can't help feeling,
we should have seen it fall.
Toppled by the sea?
You'd rather show the hike 'cross the sand;
But the castle??? In the sea????

Randall, I ask, if I may be so bold:
There's something you could do.
Because I really want to learn,
in any way that you would like to share.
Is it standing there?
Yes, Is the castle there???

The castle we loved; is it in the dust?
I keep thinking that we should have seen it fall
The castle we loved! Don't leave me clueless...

I can't help feeling,
we should have seen it fall!
Toppled by the sea!
You'd rather show them wander the sand,
while the castle's in the sea????

We should have seen it fall!
Toppled by the sea!
You'd rather show them stroll the sand,
But the castle?
The castle;
the castle!
The castle's in the sea?


See what happens when you guys encourage me??? :wink:

that's pretty fantastic. Now we just need these guys to perform it and we can have an official anthem.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby jetpac » Thu May 02, 2013 6:26 pm UTC

Caswallon wrote:5) Will they ever meet Santa Claus?
  • They are in Space, there is no Space Santa Claus! However there is a Space Krampus....

Not true, there is a space Santa. He's a robot, he lives on Neptune, and if you're naughty he'll make sure you pay.

Edit: whoops, my apologies for the double-post
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Soup » Thu May 02, 2013 6:26 pm UTC

pelrigg wrote:Found in the comment section of The Economist Blog (reported early) Linked to by AluisioASG above also:
BlitzgirlHelper in reply to paean May 1st, 20:47
Die heretic! There is no "refresh." Lord Randall has put a Javascript that pushes each new frame to the followers of the One True Comic. Besides, your post is fail on so many other levels (ads? pft!). The sea is big, the river is small.




The comment after that one has made me realize how crazy this must all seem to Outsiders. (Blind posting, probably ninja-ed)


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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby StratPlayer » Thu May 02, 2013 6:31 pm UTC

jetpac wrote:
Caswallon wrote:5) Will they ever meet Santa Claus?
  • They are in Space, there is no Space Santa Claus! However there is a Space Krampus....

Not true, there is a space Santa. He's a robot, he lives on Neptune, and if you're naughty he'll make sure you pay.

Edit: whoops, my apologies for the double-post


Of course Santa's in space! How else could he have Conquered the Martians ?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby edfel » Thu May 02, 2013 6:37 pm UTC

Montov wrote:
edfel wrote:After more than 20k posts, one could think we could be closer to understanding what is really going on in this comic (best way to guess at what it is we are waiting for). As far as I've seen by lurking around here, there are lots of scattered theories which are not always diverging. Blitzgirl and other blitzers might be the ones remembering best what's been said.

So, I'd like to know y'all ideas about this and that, just to see if we are somewhere near a consensus

First thing first:
Spoiler:
1) Where are M&C ?
a- some fantasy world, nothing like anything we know
b- some fantasy world with lots of similarities with earth (but still, no wind, etc.) Somehow like 1110's...
c- earth (nowadays), that would explain the Ikea (see 4)
d- earth, in the past -> but then, when in the past.
e- earth, in the future -> so what happened in between so that some rivers "have not yet reached the sea"
f- other

2) What have they done all the time before being on the beach?
a- nothing, they just popped into existence. With the knowledge of what a castle should look like, and how to build a trebuchet.
b- they had a normal life, they know what a castle looks like but they happen to have [originally] no idea how many rivers there are
c- they had an almost normal life, but lost memories somehow
d- other

3) How many people in this world?
a- like earth: lots of them, we just don't see them
b- just a few (M&C, LaPetite, and presumably some others....)
c- other

3) Where do they take their supplies from ? Did they pay for all this ?
a- Ikea or similar. They just parked their car out of frame, and paid by credit cards.
b- the supplies just happened to lay there somewhere around
c- they manufactured everything from scratch
b- other

And other fundamental questions :
4) Are there cats where they are? (At least there are hats)
5) Will they ever meet Santa Claus?
6) What question should we ask to understand ?


I like your curiosity. You should be the new pope.


Thanks... But I'm not sure if "curiosity" and "pope" fit well together: I don't think a pope is ever supposed to ask a question...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Helper » Thu May 02, 2013 6:38 pm UTC

edfel wrote:After more than 20k posts, one could think we could be closer to understanding what is really going on in this comic (best way to guess at what it is we are waiting for). As far as I've seen by lurking around here, there are lots of scattered theories which are not always diverging. Blitzgirl and other blitzers might be the ones remembering best what's been said.

So, I'd like to know y'all ideas about this and that, just to see if we are somewhere near a consensus

First thing first:
1) Where are M&C ?
a- some fantasy world, nothing like anything we know
b- some fantasy world with lots of similarities with earth (but still, no wind, etc.) Somehow like 1110's...
c- earth (nowadays), that would explain the Ikea (see 4)
d- earth, in the past -> but then, when in the past.
e- earth, in the future -> so what happened in between so that some rivers "have not yet reached the sea"
f- other

2) What have they done all the time before being on the beach?
a- nothing, they just popped into existence. With the knowledge of what a castle should look like, and how to build a trebuchet.
b- they had a normal life, they know what a castle looks like but they happen to have [originally] no idea how many rivers there are
c- they had an almost normal life, but lost memories somehow
d- other

3) How many people in this world?
a- like earth: lots of them, we just don't see them
b- just a few (M&C, LaPetite, and presumably some others....)
c- other

3) Where do they take their supplies from ? Did they pay for all this ?
a- Ikea or similar. They just parked their car out of frame, and paid by credit cards.
b- the supplies just happened to lay there somewhere around
c- they manufactured everything from scratch
b- other

And other fundamental questions :
4) Are there cats where they are? (At least there are hats)
5) Will they ever meet Santa Claus?
6) What question should we ask to understand ?


1)e:aliums, duh
2)a
3)b
3)b
4)there are always cats
5)no, although they will be nearly assisinated by him
6)is eating the yellow snow always bad?
NoEdge wrote:Outside? Is that like Mesopotamia? Isn't Mesopotamia gone? Has Outside been destroyed without our noticing?!
Oh well. At least we still have our sandcastle.


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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Opiboble » Thu May 02, 2013 6:39 pm UTC

StratPlayer wrote:
jetpac wrote:
Caswallon wrote:5) Will they ever meet Santa Claus?
  • They are in Space, there is no Space Santa Claus! However there is a Space Krampus....

Not true, there is a space Santa. He's a robot, he lives on Neptune, and if you're naughty he'll make sure you pay.

Edit: whoops, my apologies for the double-post


Of course Santa's in space! How else could he have Conquered the Martians ?


But the problem resides in the fact that they are in a different universe, or at least in a section of space in this universe were time flows much slower, and so far Santa has only made it to Mars.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Prosthetic_Lips » Thu May 02, 2013 6:56 pm UTC

Helper wrote:
edfel wrote:After more than 20k posts, one could think we could be closer to understanding what is really going on in this comic (best way to guess at what it is we are waiting for). As far as I've seen by lurking around here, there are lots of scattered theories which are not always diverging. Blitzgirl and other blitzers might be the ones remembering best what's been said.

So, I'd like to know y'all ideas about this and that, just to see if we are somewhere near a consensus

Spoiler:
First thing first:
1) Where are M&C ?
a- some fantasy world, nothing like anything we know
b- some fantasy world with lots of similarities with earth (but still, no wind, etc.) Somehow like 1110's...
c- earth (nowadays), that would explain the Ikea (see 4)
d- earth, in the past -> but then, when in the past.
e- earth, in the future -> so what happened in between so that some rivers "have not yet reached the sea"
f- other

2) What have they done all the time before being on the beach?
a- nothing, they just popped into existence. With the knowledge of what a castle should look like, and how to build a trebuchet.
b- they had a normal life, they know what a castle looks like but they happen to have [originally] no idea how many rivers there are
c- they had an almost normal life, but lost memories somehow
d- other

3) How many people in this world?
a- like earth: lots of them, we just don't see them
b- just a few (M&C, LaPetite, and presumably some others....)
c- other

3) Where do they take their supplies from ? Did they pay for all this ?
a- Ikea or similar. They just parked their car out of frame, and paid by credit cards.
b- the supplies just happened to lay there somewhere around
c- they manufactured everything from scratch
b- other


And other fundamental questions :
4) Are there cats where they are? (At least there are hats)
5) Will they ever meet Santa Claus?
6) What question should we ask to understand ?


1)e:aliums, duh
2)a
3)b
3)b
4)there are always cats
5)no, although they will be nearly assisinated by him
6)is eating the yellow snow always bad?



Ooh, I can answer the last one. If you have seen Monsters, Inc., and remember the scene with Abominable and he offers them yellow snowcones ...
No, no, no. Don't worry. It's lemon.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mathrec » Thu May 02, 2013 6:58 pm UTC

edfel wrote:After more than 20k posts, one could think we could be closer to understanding what is really going on in this comic (best way to guess at what it is we are waiting for). ...
So, I'd like to know y'all ideas about this and that, just to see if we are somewhere near a consensus


1) Where are M&C ?
b- some fantasy world with lots of similarities with earth (but still, no wind, etc.) Somehow like 1110's...

2) What have they done all the time before being on the beach?
b- they had a normal life, they know what a castle looks like but they happen to have [originally] no idea how many rivers there are

3) How many people in this world?
a- like earth: lots of them, we just don't see them
probably not urban though...except for the IKEA.

3) Where do they take their supplies from ? Did they pay for all this ?
a- Ikea or similar. They just parked their car out of frame, and paid by credit cards.
it may be a mythical sort of IKEA, though. Not sure they had to use credit cards.

And other fundamental questions :
4) Are there cats where they are? (At least there are hats)
Bobcats!

5) Will they ever meet Santa Claus?
Doubtful. The Randallverse hasn't featured Santa.

6) What question should we ask to understand ?
Any that you want. Randall has not commanded what we need to do while we wait for it.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby rwilson04 » Thu May 02, 2013 6:59 pm UTC

I use bookmarklets for saving and restoring my location at the xkcd(dot)aubronwood(dot)com

Save:

Code: Select all

javascript:(window.location.hash=i)

Jump:

Code: Select all

javascript:(function(){playing=0; i = parseInt(document.URL.substr(document.URL.indexOf('#')+1)); $('#comic').attr('src',imgs[i-1]); $('#number').html(i)})()


For Jump, you need to enter the frame manually after the hash in the url, e.g. xkcd(dot)aubronwood(dot)com/#1046

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Helper » Thu May 02, 2013 7:02 pm UTC

Prosthetic_Lips wrote:Ooh, I can answer the last one. If you have seen Monsters, Inc., and remember the scene with Abominable and he offers them yellow snowcones ...
No, no, no. Don't worry. It's lemon.

Yeah, sure. Lemon. I'm still waiting for them to press charges against 'ole Abominable...
NoEdge wrote:Outside? Is that like Mesopotamia? Isn't Mesopotamia gone? Has Outside been destroyed without our noticing?!
Oh well. At least we still have our sandcastle.


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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Opiboble » Thu May 02, 2013 7:03 pm UTC

Helper wrote:
Prosthetic_Lips wrote:Ooh, I can answer the last one. If you have seen Monsters, Inc., and remember the scene with Abominable and he offers them yellow snowcones ...
No, no, no. Don't worry. It's lemon.

Yeah, sure. Lemon. I'm still waiting for them to press charges against 'ole Abominable...


What did he ever do to you?!?!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Helper » Thu May 02, 2013 7:04 pm UTC

Opiboble wrote:
Helper wrote:
Prosthetic_Lips wrote:Ooh, I can answer the last one. If you have seen Monsters, Inc., and remember the scene with Abominable and he offers them yellow snowcones ...
No, no, no. Don't worry. It's lemon.

Yeah, sure. Lemon. I'm still waiting for them to press charges against 'ole Abominable...


What did he ever do to you?!?!

HE MADE ME DRINK URINE!
NoEdge wrote:Outside? Is that like Mesopotamia? Isn't Mesopotamia gone? Has Outside been destroyed without our noticing?!
Oh well. At least we still have our sandcastle.


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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby cari.j.elliot » Thu May 02, 2013 7:06 pm UTC

Blindposting again from 498. Seeing several unknowns with hats. Has Buffygirl been strangely generous and available to make hats, or are we having a bonfire1 in the Future/Present?

1One can only assume that those who have usurped the divine right of the Milliner will have been burnt at the (chocolately?) stake by now.
I would like to request that anyone currently doing whatever and posting a large (or even medium) number/volume of responses in a singe post should
Spoiler:
spoiler them.
Thank you.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Opiboble » Thu May 02, 2013 7:07 pm UTC

Helper wrote:
Opiboble wrote:
Helper wrote:
Prosthetic_Lips wrote:Ooh, I can answer the last one. If you have seen Monsters, Inc., and remember the scene with Abominable and he offers them yellow snowcones ...
No, no, no. Don't worry. It's lemon.

Yeah, sure. Lemon. I'm still waiting for them to press charges against 'ole Abominable...


What did he ever do to you?!?!

HE MADE ME DRINK URINE!

Are you sure it was urine? Did you keep a sample?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby rmsgrey » Thu May 02, 2013 7:08 pm UTC

We know there's a hat (or hatlike object) - we have no evidence of additional millinery.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby SBN » Thu May 02, 2013 7:08 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Eoink » Thu May 02, 2013 7:09 pm UTC

SBN wrote:
mscha wrote:
Ardaglash wrote:Has anyone thought about what will happen when the OTC has more frames than XKCD has comics? (I've been skimming this needle-pulled-thing, but in no way have I read the whole shebang...)

XKCD has 1206 comics as of yesterday; Aubronwood puts the OTC at 1041 pix. If that count is correct, and the current pace of newpix remains steady, then the OTC will surpass XKCD in 173 newpix...

Aubronwood is missing one newpix and is thus 1 behind. At the time of your post, the official OTC frame count was 1042; right now it is 1044.
See here for a convenient list of frames with links to the newpix.


The official count may be 1044, but there are three missing/apocryphal frames between 255 and 256.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby StratPlayer » Thu May 02, 2013 7:11 pm UTC

Prosthetic_Lips wrote:
<snip>
6)is eating the yellow snow always bad?


Ooh, I can answer the last one. If you have seen Monsters, Inc., and remember the scene with Abominable and he offers them yellow snowcones ...


<snicker>

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby lassehp » Thu May 02, 2013 7:11 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Helper » Thu May 02, 2013 7:12 pm UTC

Opiboble wrote:
Helper wrote:
Opiboble wrote:
Helper wrote:
Prosthetic_Lips wrote:Ooh, I can answer the last one. If you have seen Monsters, Inc., and remember the scene with Abominable and he offers them yellow snowcones ...
No, no, no. Don't worry. It's lemon.

Yeah, sure. Lemon. I'm still waiting for them to press charges against 'ole Abominable...


What did he ever do to you?!?!

HE MADE ME DRINK URINE!

Are you sure it was urine? Did you keep a sample?

What kind of question is that? Of course I kept a sample. I keep samples of anything that might be urine.
...remind me to never invite anybody over to my place.
NoEdge wrote:Outside? Is that like Mesopotamia? Isn't Mesopotamia gone? Has Outside been destroyed without our noticing?!
Oh well. At least we still have our sandcastle.


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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Helper » Thu May 02, 2013 7:14 pm UTC

StratPlayer wrote:
Prosthetic_Lips wrote:
<snip>
6)is eating the yellow snow always bad?


Ooh, I can answer the last one. If you have seen Monsters, Inc., and remember the scene with Abominable and he offers them yellow snowcones ...


<snicker>

I'm old -- I immediately thought of Frank Zappa. :wink:

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NoEdge wrote:Outside? Is that like Mesopotamia? Isn't Mesopotamia gone? Has Outside been destroyed without our noticing?!
Oh well. At least we still have our sandcastle.


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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Valarya » Thu May 02, 2013 7:17 pm UTC

SBN wrote:Image


Are they contemplating their next move? Are they whispering about the Other River they found? Is Megan eating the rope?!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Caswallon » Thu May 02, 2013 7:17 pm UTC

StratPlayer wrote:
jetpac wrote:
Caswallon wrote:5) Will they ever meet Santa Claus?
  • They are in Space, there is no Space Santa Claus! However there is a Space Krampus....

Not true, there is a space Santa. He's a robot, he lives on Neptune, and if you're naughty he'll make sure you pay.

Of course Santa's in space! How else could he have Conquered the Martians ?

I will award 1 point for the Futurama reference.

However, in this universe, that is NORMAL Santa who gets kidnapped to Mars, becoming Martian Santa! We are still short a Space Santa.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Opiboble » Thu May 02, 2013 7:18 pm UTC

Helper wrote:
Opiboble wrote:
Helper wrote:
Opiboble wrote:
Helper wrote:
Prosthetic_Lips wrote:Ooh, I can answer the last one. If you have seen Monsters, Inc., and remember the scene with Abominable and he offers them yellow snowcones ...
No, no, no. Don't worry. It's lemon.

Yeah, sure. Lemon. I'm still waiting for them to press charges against 'ole Abominable...


What did he ever do to you?!?!

HE MADE ME DRINK URINE!

Are you sure it was urine? Did you keep a sample?

What kind of question is that? Of course I kept a sample. I keep samples of anything that might be urine.
...remind me to never invite anybody over to my place.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Ebonite » Thu May 02, 2013 7:18 pm UTC

Wow. I got busy at work in RL on Monday, and fell waaaay behind in this forum -- at one point, 9 NewPages. At the rate everyone had been adding new posts, it took me until today just to catch up.

Some comments on old topics that I completely missed:

    I'm not a linguist, but I'm close. I have a Ph.D. in Artificial Intelligence, and my dissertation involved Computational Linguistics.
    When I was born, "Heartaches By The Number" by Guy Mitchell was the #1 song.
    I am not every going to try to contribute to the "bag" puns at this point. I'd say that all the good ones are already taken, but I'm not sure there were any good ones. (Ba-dump-bump!)
    My avatar continues to be hatless. . .and skinless. . .and less a lot of stuff. Egad, maybe I should just replace it with an image of Brook from One Piece and solve my own millinery/haberdashery challenges! But I wouldn't want to step on BuffyGirl's turf!
    I was really, really impressed with jjjdavidson's song "Wonderful Walk". I appreciate it when a parodist (is that a word?) not only preserves rhyme scheme, but proper meter! That work of art belongs somewhere in the OTC Hall of Fame next to BlitzGirl's grid, BuffyGirl's hats, aubronwood's site, etc.

A couple of new things:

edfel wrote:After more than 20k posts, one could think we could be closer to understanding what is really going on in this comic (best way to guess at what it is we are waiting for). As far as I've seen by lurking around here, there are lots of scattered theories which are not always diverging. Blitzgirl and other blitzers might be the ones remembering best what's been said.

So, I'd like to know y'all ideas about this and that, just to see if we are somewhere near a consensus

First thing first:
. . .


One key question I would add to this list of questions is: what level of awareness do M&C have about their world? They know about castles. They have access to building materials such as pre-cut plan(c)ks and rope, and can construct a fairly sturdy structure on top of a sandy foundation. They have miniature trebuchets and know how to use them. And yet they seem to lack a fundamental understanding of rivers, seas, and rain. In fact, given that they keep trying to drink foul stuff, it seems like they don't understand water in general.

Why did they consider it dangerous to go out into the river to retrieve the lost bottle when the river seemed to be moving more slowly than they thought? If they were worried about Cueball getting swept away by the current, why couldn't they tie a rope around his waist while he waded out to retrieve it?

It's stuff like this that leads me to believe this is not a portrait of a real-world scenario. If this doesn't turn out to be a big allegory for something (and frankly, I'm just not seeing what it could possibly be) I'm fully convinced we're going to see a Twilight Zone ending.

I've also wondered: what are the chances that Randall had a plan for doing something that he thought would be tricky or clever, such as:
    replacing an old image with a different one, or
    throwing in a "go to" loop to an old image thinking no one would notice the loop, or
    hiding something under the white screen during the great Fadeout that he thought no one would see
but was reading the forum and realized he couldn't do what he planned anymore because he discovered we were tracking everything so closely?

Alternatively, what are the chances that Randall really thought we'd have figured this all out by now, has been reading the forum, and every day does a facepalm? "Noooo! 1000 images and they STILL haven't figured out what's going on yet? How many clues do I have to give them??"
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby StratPlayer » Thu May 02, 2013 7:19 pm UTC

Helper wrote:
StratPlayer wrote:
Prosthetic_Lips wrote:
<snip>
6)is eating the yellow snow always bad?


Ooh, I can answer the last one. If you have seen Monsters, Inc., and remember the scene with Abominable and he offers them yellow snowcones ...


<snicker>

I'm old -- I immediately thought of Frank Zappa. :wink:

0_0.
Spoiler:
Image


:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby pelrigg » Thu May 02, 2013 7:19 pm UTC

SBN wrote:Image


Did someone say "fire"?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby SBN » Thu May 02, 2013 7:20 pm UTC

Eoink wrote:
SBN wrote:
mscha wrote:
Ardaglash wrote:Has anyone thought about what will happen when the OTC has more frames than XKCD has comics? (I've been skimming this needle-pulled-thing, but in no way have I read the whole shebang...)

XKCD has 1206 comics as of yesterday; Aubronwood puts the OTC at 1041 pix. If that count is correct, and the current pace of newpix remains steady, then the OTC will surpass XKCD in 173 newpix...

Aubronwood is missing one newpix and is thus 1 behind. At the time of your post, the official OTC frame count was 1042; right now it is 1044.
See here for a convenient list of frames with links to the newpix.


The official count may be 1044, but there are three missing/apocryphal frames between 255 and 256.

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Surely The Lord Randall didn't start with 8 bit arrays!


It's fully explained here:
http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=101043&p=3339649&hilit=server+256#p3339649
But briefly:
sparehead3 wrote:All the filename hashes above are indeed available at imgs.xkcd.com/comics/time/... But I do believe that during that odd double-update period, the images for frames 259, 260 and 261 were accidentally saved with the same filenames that frames 256, 257 and 258 had. Since then, Aubron's site and my image folder have been exactly three frames out of sync (As of 6am EDT, my frame #921 corresponds with Aubron's frame #918).

This is not Aubron's fault- I'm fairly certain something happened on the server where all the files are stored. Frames 252 through 255 were duplicated and given different filename hashes, so it's probable that whatever was responsible for that also duplicated frames 259, 260 and 261 and gave the duplicates the same filename hashes as frames 256, 257 and 258- accidentally writing over those files.
astrotter wrote:It is not particularly clear to me at this time that we are not overanalyzing this...

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby jetpac » Thu May 02, 2013 7:20 pm UTC

Caswallon wrote:
StratPlayer wrote:
jetpac wrote:
Caswallon wrote:5) Will they ever meet Santa Claus?
  • They are in Space, there is no Space Santa Claus! However there is a Space Krampus....

Not true, there is a space Santa. He's a robot, he lives on Neptune, and if you're naughty he'll make sure you pay.

Of course Santa's in space! How else could he have Conquered the Martians ?

I will award 1 point for the Futurama reference.

However, in this universe, that is NORMAL Santa who gets kidnapped to Mars, becoming Martian Santa! We are still short a Space Santa.

Hooray, a point! Just what I always wanted!

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby cellocgw » Thu May 02, 2013 7:21 pm UTC

Caswallon wrote:5) Will they ever meet Santa Claus?
  • They are in Space, there is no Space Santa Claus! However there is a Space Krampus....



OK, so "In Space, no one can hear you ask Santa for presents" ?
Which reminds me, Sedaris!!!!
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