1190: "Time"

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Sciscitor » Sun May 05, 2013 8:02 pm UTC

Angelastic wrote:Awesome graph, Sciscitor! But since there's no arrows on the lines, is there a way to tell whether a line means 'quoted' or 'was quoted by'?

I've had arrows on the lines but they messed it up, so I left them out. In some cases, there is a way to tell: If there are two lines between Users (say Helper and opiboble) the narrower line means quotes of the clockwise second user, while the wider means quotes of the first one. This is because I sorted the user clockwise by descending being-quoted-count.

Sorry, if that's a bit confusing.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby katakombe » Sun May 05, 2013 8:05 pm UTC

noONGyet?

can't seem to get the new one to load - either it's late or my browser is messing up.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Sun May 05, 2013 8:07 pm UTC

katakombe wrote:noONGyet?

No, and yours isn't one either. (Oldpix.)
You have 1½ minute to fix it, before newpixbot takes over.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Sun May 05, 2013 8:10 pm UTC

EVENSONGGGGGGGG...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Sciscitor » Sun May 05, 2013 8:11 pm UTC

HAL9000 wrote:Ooh! Idea! Combine this with one of Kieryn's charts, and put the day that each of the top 100 quoted users first posted in the thread!

It is current up to post 20440 (that is page 511), I spent some time for setting this up so I did not update the database itself, I will do this tomorrow after comatime and outside duties.

Are you talking about measuring who posted the fastest? It could be done, I guess.

Maybe I could also add some more information by colorcoding the nodes and the edges ... all I need are some ideas what to choose as metric for that.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby descor » Sun May 05, 2013 8:11 pm UTC

mscha wrote:
katakombe wrote:noONGyet?

No, and yours isn't one either. (Oldpix.)
You have 1½ minute to fix it, before newpixbot takes over.

Is the comic being laggy for anyone else?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Smithers » Sun May 05, 2013 8:12 pm UTC

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Angelastic wrote:Awesome graph, Sciscitor! But since there's no arrows on the lines, is there a way to tell whether a line means 'quoted' or 'was quoted by'?

I've had arrows on the lines but they messed it up, so I left them out. In some cases, there is a way to tell: If there are two lines between Users (say Helper and opiboble) the narrower line means quotes of the clockwise second user, while the wider means quotes of the first one. This is because I sorted the user clockwise by descending being-quoted-count.

Sorry, if that's a bit confusing.

It's also possible that "X" quoted "Y" more times than "Y" quoted "X", yet others have quoted "X" enough to move "X" higher up the list, so this can't really be true in general. I notice that each line is curved though, do the lines always curve the same way? E.g. always making a 'right turn' when directed from quoter to quoted?

Edit: I don't know how newpixbot got the link, I (and others, it seems) am getting a timeout retrieving http://c.xkcd.com/redirect/comic/time
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby slinches » Sun May 05, 2013 8:12 pm UTC

mscha wrote:EVENSONGGGGGGGG...
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/time/2e9053 ... 5df46c.png

-- posted by newpixbot


Where does newpixbot get his filenames and images? It's still not resolving properly on the comic site.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby htom » Sun May 05, 2013 8:14 pm UTC

mscha wrote:
Sciscitor wrote:So... now I've played around a bit with my new dataset and thus created a very simplified graph visualization of this thread

OMR... Simplified, (s)he calls that... I don't think I've ever seen a graph with such a high data density, amazing.
(I think I'm hypnitized now, after staring at a zoomed-in version for a while.)

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby katakombe » Sun May 05, 2013 8:16 pm UTC

slinches wrote:Where does newpixbot get his filenames and images? It's still not resolving properly on the comic site.


phew, and i thought i was the only one - i still can't get the current picture, and i've F5-ed the site more often than i can count in the last 15 minutes.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HAL9000 » Sun May 05, 2013 8:16 pm UTC

Sciscitor wrote:
HAL9000 wrote:Ooh! Idea! Combine this with one of Kieryn's charts, and put the day that each of the top 100 quoted users first posted in the thread!

It is current up to post 20440 (that is page 511), I spent some time for setting this up so I did not update the database itself, I will do this tomorrow after comatime and outside duties.

Are you talking about measuring who posted the fastest? It could be done, I guess.

Maybe I could also add some more information by colorcoding the nodes and the edges ... all I need are some ideas what to choose as metric for that.

I was thinking more along the lines of just adding when each user's oldest and newest in-thread posts within the timespan covered by the chart were.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby descor » Sun May 05, 2013 8:17 pm UTC

katakombe wrote:
slinches wrote:Where does newpixbot get his filenames and images? It's still not resolving properly on the comic site.


phew, and i thought i was the only one - i still can't get the current picture, and i've F5-ed the site more often than i can count in the last 15 minutes.

Maybe it started with a temporary blip meaning we all began refreshing like mad effectively creating a DDoS?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Sun May 05, 2013 8:20 pm UTC

katakombe wrote:
slinches wrote:Where does newpixbot get his filenames and images? It's still not resolving properly on the comic site.


phew, and i thought i was the only one - i still can't get the current picture, and i've F5-ed the site more often than i can count in the last 15 minutes.

No wonder it is slow, every time you (or others) press F5, it adds to the load on the servers... :?

Newpixbot is using a link with a specific IP address instead of the hostname. It was much slower than usual as well, but since it had to wait until :10 to post anyway, it didn't make a difference.
I won't repeat the link here, otherwise all y'all will start F5-ing that one as well. ;)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Eternal Density » Sun May 05, 2013 8:22 pm UTC

There may have been 42 cakes, but when no one was looking, Lex Luthor took forty cakes. He took 40 cakes. That's as many as four tens. And that's terrible.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Smithers » Sun May 05, 2013 8:25 pm UTC

mscha wrote:I won't repeat the link here, otherwise all y'all will start F5-ing that one as well. ;)

Very good idea, if we all start F5-in on the same IP, we'll just be subverting the CDN and DDoS it even faster.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby katakombe » Sun May 05, 2013 8:25 pm UTC

mscha wrote:
katakombe wrote:
slinches wrote:Where does newpixbot get his filenames and images? It's still not resolving properly on the comic site.


phew, and i thought i was the only one - i still can't get the current picture, and i've F5-ed the site more often than i can count in the last 15 minutes.

No wonder it is slow, every time you (or others) press F5, it adds to the load on the servers... :?


yeah, well,to be fair, i started to do it so frantically when i noticed i got the old image url on my attempted ONG and wanted to fix it. i don't usually do that. still, i don't get a picture even now, so i'll just wait a little while and try again then.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby slinches » Sun May 05, 2013 8:28 pm UTC

mscha wrote:
katakombe wrote:
slinches wrote:Where does newpixbot get his filenames and images? It's still not resolving properly on the comic site.


phew, and i thought i was the only one - i still can't get the current picture, and i've F5-ed the site more often than i can count in the last 15 minutes.

No wonder it is slow, every time you (or others) press F5, it adds to the load on the servers... :?

Newpixbot is using a link with a specific IP address instead of the hostname. It was much slower than usual as well, but since it had to wait until :10 to post anyway, it didn't make a difference.
I won't repeat the link here, otherwise all y'all will start F5-ing that one as well. ;)


Makes sense, no use crashing the other server. Capturing all of the frames is more important than claiming "First!". Still, how could we be DDoSing his servers? There's only 73 of us on here and I doubt that we could hit F5 fast enough to cause much of an issue.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby descor » Sun May 05, 2013 8:29 pm UTC

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mscha wrote:I won't repeat the link here, otherwise all y'all will start F5-ing that one as well. ;)

Very good idea, if we all start F5-in on the same IP, we'll just be subverting the CDN and DDoS it even faster.

I like to think that right now a massive klaxon is blaring and red lights are flashing while Randall grabs an emergency tool box before making an intrepid trip through cramped corridors filled with smoke to reach the server room where he has to defeat a highly intelligent computer virus (you know, like the ones in movies which 'mutate' to counteract everything you do) to bring xkcd back online...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HAL9000 » Sun May 05, 2013 8:30 pm UTC

Eternal Density wrote:There may have been 42 cakes, but when no one was looking, Lex Luthor took forty cakes. He took 40 cakes. That's as many as four tens. And that's terrible.

This sounds like an elementary school math problem.
"If there are 42 cakes but Lex Luthor steals 40 cakes, how many cakes are left?"
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby katakombe » Sun May 05, 2013 8:36 pm UTC

descor wrote:I like to think that right now a massive klaxon is blaring and red lights are flashing while Randall grabs an emergency tool box before making an intrepid trip through cramped corridors filled with smoke to reach the server room where he has to defeat a highly intelligent computer virus (you know, like the ones in movies which 'mutate' to counteract everything you do) to bring xkcd back online...


i love that scenario! hope the servers recover before the next ONG (that we should probably leave to Newpixbot, just in case)

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby htom » Sun May 05, 2013 8:37 pm UTC

slinches wrote:
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mscha wrote:
katakombe wrote:
slinches wrote:Where does newpixbot get his filenames and images? It's still not resolving properly on the comic site.


phew, and i thought i was the only one - i still can't get the current picture, and i've F5-ed the site more often than i can count in the last 15 minutes.

No wonder it is slow, every time you (or others) press F5, it adds to the load on the servers... :?

Newpixbot is using a link with a specific IP address instead of the hostname. It was much slower than usual as well, but since it had to wait until :10 to post anyway, it didn't make a difference.
I won't repeat the link here, otherwise all y'all will start F5-ing that one as well. ;)

Makes sense, no use crashing the other server. Capturing all of the frames is more important than claiming "First!". Still, how could we be DDoSing his servers? There's only 73 of us on here and I doubt that we could hit F5 fast enough to cause much of an issue.


Yesterday was "Free Comic Saturday"; when I walked into my local shop, people were talking about "the world's slowest flip book" and some of those who didn't know may be trying to catch up.

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Eternal Density wrote:There may have been 42 cakes, but when no one was looking, Lex Luthor took forty cakes. He took 40 cakes. That's as many as four tens. And that's terrible.

This sounds like an elementary school math problem.
"If there are 42 cakes but Lex Luthor steals 40 cakes, how many cakes are left?"


None. Lex Luther bought the other two.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ChronosDragon » Sun May 05, 2013 8:39 pm UTC

HAL9000 wrote:
Eternal Density wrote:There may have been 42 cakes, but when no one was looking, Lex Luthor took forty cakes. He took 40 cakes. That's as many as four tens. And that's terrible.

This sounds like an elementary school math problem.
"If there are 42 cakes but Lex Luthor steals 40 cakes, how many cakes are left?"


I may have missed a subtle joke or aknowledgement of the reference there but I think it sounds like that because it is.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HAL9000 » Sun May 05, 2013 8:41 pm UTC

ChronosDragon wrote:
HAL9000 wrote:
Eternal Density wrote:There may have been 42 cakes, but when no one was looking, Lex Luthor took forty cakes. He took 40 cakes. That's as many as four tens. And that's terrible.

This sounds like an elementary school math problem.
"If there are 42 cakes but Lex Luthor steals 40 cakes, how many cakes are left?"


I may have missed a subtle joke or aknowledgement of the reference there but I think it sounds like that because it is.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby dreiarmumig » Sun May 05, 2013 8:42 pm UTC

The comic won't load and nobody has suggested that this is the end of Time yet? I am disappoint.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby descor » Sun May 05, 2013 8:43 pm UTC

dreiarmumig wrote:The comic won't load and nobody has suggested that this is the end of Time yet? I am disappoint.

Is this another sect? Serverfailurites? DDoSists?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby katakombe » Sun May 05, 2013 8:44 pm UTC

dreiarmumig wrote:The comic won't load and nobody has suggested that this is the end of Time yet? I am disappoint.


well, the Newpixbot had no problem loading the Newpix, so it's clearly a server problem. plus everyone should stop refreshing so that the servers have a chance to come back up. (i know it's tempting to try, and i know it's disturbing to not have the current Newpix open in the next tab, but we have to be strong!)

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby dreiarmumig » Sun May 05, 2013 8:47 pm UTC

descor wrote:
dreiarmumig wrote:The comic won't load and nobody has suggested that this is the end of Time yet? I am disappoint.

Is this another sect? Serverfailurites? DDoSists?

Maybe a splinter group of some other sect, I've kind of lost track of the existing ones.

katakombe wrote:well, the Newpixbot had no problem loading the Newpix, so it's clearly a server problem. plus everyone should stop refreshing so that the servers have a chance to come back up. (i know it's tempting to try, and i know it's disturbing to not have the current Newpix open in the next tab, but we have to be strong!)

Yeah, I know, I just felt that it had to be suggested regardless, as the 'Time is ending!' prophecies of doom have not always made sense anyway.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby azule » Sun May 05, 2013 8:51 pm UTC

Not quotes this time, for brevity.

Sciscitor, that circle graph is insane. There is no possible way to follow it, but thanks anyways, it's cool!

mscha, your "no good at pictures" picture illustrates the idea well. I was thinking more of the impossible m.c. escher style feed itself. If I get some time, I'll attempt to drawr it myself. lol.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Sun May 05, 2013 8:52 pm UTC

dreiarmumig wrote:I just felt that it had to be suggested regardless, as the 'Time is ending!' prophecies of doom have not always made sense anyway.

That is certainly the understatement of the newpix...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ergman » Sun May 05, 2013 8:54 pm UTC

mscha wrote:
dreiarmumig wrote:I just felt that it had to be suggested regardless, as the 'Time is ending!' prophecies of doom have not always made sense anyway.

That is certainly the understatement of the newpix...

comics gonna end at frame 1190, calling it right now
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Smithers » Sun May 05, 2013 9:00 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Sun May 05, 2013 9:01 pm UTC

Smithers wrote:YING TONG

WHATISITWITHPEOPLEPOSTINGTHEOLDPICWITHOUTCHECKINGTODAYONG...
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Edit: FWIW, my checker had no trouble this time, and got the newpix within a few seconds.
Edit2: Ninja'd by azule - in the next post. (I cheated (edited).)
Edit3: azule deleted, so I unspoilered again.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ChronosDragon » Sun May 05, 2013 9:04 pm UTC

Interesting, the river bank is more slope-y here. Almost looks like a little mini-beach...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby katakombe » Sun May 05, 2013 9:05 pm UTC

oh, a zoom-in. i predict dialog in the next 1-3 Newpix.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Smithers » Sun May 05, 2013 9:06 pm UTC

mscha wrote:
Smithers wrote:YING TONG

WHATISITWITHPEOPLEPOSTINGTHEOLDPICWITHOUTCHECKINGTODAYONG...

I did check. The new image appeared (and it was an obvious one, as you've just seen), then I copied the address (and checked I wasn't copying "time.png") and somehow got the wrong one. I think the image redirect gave me the new link, but then the javascript overwrote it with the old one.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby azule » Sun May 05, 2013 9:08 pm UTC

mscha wrote:Edit: FWIW, my checker had no trouble this time, and got the newpix within a few seconds.
Edit2: Ninja'd by azule - in the next post. (I cheated (edited).)
Edit3: azule deleted, so I unspoilered again.

LMAO! Sorry. I went to post, didn't see it. Then on refresh it was there. I thought I got ninja'd, and I had no *ONG ready, so deleted. :(

Edit: I have slow internet. I just assume I'm ninja'd, never think I could get the post in during such activity. (It was the server unresponsiveness that gave me a change. Well, here's hoping for another server slowdown. ;) Kidding!)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby cellocgw » Sun May 05, 2013 9:09 pm UTC

HAL9000 wrote:
Eternal Density wrote:There may have been 42 cakes, but when no one was looking, Lex Luthor took forty cakes. He took 40 cakes. That's as many as four tens. And that's terrible.

This sounds like an elementary school math problem.
"If there are 42 cakes but Lex Luthor steals 40 cakes, how many cakes are left?"


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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HAL9000 » Sun May 05, 2013 9:11 pm UTC

cellocgw wrote:
HAL9000 wrote:
Eternal Density wrote:There may have been 42 cakes, but when no one was looking, Lex Luthor took forty cakes. He took 40 cakes. That's as many as four tens. And that's terrible.

This sounds like an elementary school math problem.
"If there are 42 cakes but Lex Luthor steals 40 cakes, how many cakes are left?"


All of them. Superman brought them back.
Do I win?

No, Superman does. He only brought the cakes back so he could eat them all himself.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Sun May 05, 2013 9:13 pm UTC

mscha wrote:Edit: FWIW, my checker had no trouble this time, and got the newpix within a few seconds.

The OTC page in my browser is still not loading, though...¹
If Randall has any spies in the OTT, I hope they can ask him to give the servers a good kick.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby descor » Sun May 05, 2013 9:19 pm UTC

dreiarmumig wrote:
descor wrote:
dreiarmumig wrote:The comic won't load and nobody has suggested that this is the end of Time yet? I am disappoint.

Is this another sect? Serverfailurites? DDoSists?

Maybe a splinter group of some other sect, I've kind of lost track of the existing ones.

This may help. (Click for large version)
End of the OTC2.png
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