1190: "Time"

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby AluisioASG » Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:47 pm UTC

ucim wrote:I'm liking the new Last Time Waiter. This business of creating self-repairing systems can go wrong in very entertaining ways - no wonder it "may take a few years".

I hadn't thought about this - I'm not sure if I'm going to cover the development process itself, but who knowsnot me?
But that's not the only missing piece in the puzzle. They'll have to develop a very advanced artificial intelligence, capable of reason, imagination and - ultimately - emotion (in a very limited way, but still).

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Exodies » Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:50 pm UTC

CasCat wrote:
charlie_grumbles wrote:turn-ONG
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And dropping the rock.


TheMinim wrote:Heh heh heh. You may never know.


Rats.


I notice that the rock has a trail behind it. Like the beesnake. Does that mean that the trail/train/tail of the beesnake is just a graphic by Randall showing its loopy zigzag path, and not an actual trail, but an afterimage-of-movement, so to speak?

I think the beesnake isn't a beesnake at all; just a moving bug.

(Also "facebug" is faster to say in shock than "oh-my-ghod-there's-a-bug-on-my-face!")

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Ebonite » Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:57 pm UTC

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Post, then ONG. Besides, they ONGed while they were talkONG.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby spamjam » Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:00 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:02 pm UTC

Then why don't you get moving, instead of just standing there wondering, Megan?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HES » Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:03 pm UTC

spamjam wrote:GOFORITONG
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Well, we know what the next months worth of OTC will be...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Vytron » Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:11 pm UTC

AluisioASG wrote:
Vytron wrote:
AluisioASG wrote:
Vytron wrote:<snip>It seems I own about 2/3 of Megan.<snip>

What do you want to do with her that needs the whole and not only the lower half? A house? A ball-launching lever? A 5-bit computer? Play rock-paper-scissors?

Yeah, playing chess with her is going to be hard without her arms. Also, how are we going to play Stare wars without her eyes?

I'd also like to share the desserts that people post on the thread with her, which is going to be hard without her mouth...

You get the idea now, don't you?

It seems my intention wasn't well understood, so I'll try to rephrase it. Our approaches to Megball, the OTC and surrounding life seem to be completely different. It's all about abstraction.
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Interesting. Then I guess I can do this?

*Calls dibs on Cueball*

Cueball consists of a circle, and 5 lines. Would you like to trade these lines and a circle for your upper part of Megan? It seems you'd be ahead in The Abstract Wars.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Zorin_75 » Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:16 pm UTC

mscha wrote: How high have they climbed since they left the river³?

40q, if you consider the stitching a valid representation (two very incomplete trees in the last frames, definitely not neat).
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby susanoodin » Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:19 pm UTC

spamjam wrote:GOFORITONG
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby spamjam » Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:19 pm UTC

HES wrote:
Exodies wrote:If double posting was such a bad thing the forum software could delay publishing a post until the last poster had a different name. It's not rocket science. Similarly, red text could be turned blue if the poster wasn't an admin.
By now you should have started to get the picture. These sort of rules aren't designed to improve matters for anyone, but to demonstrate that WE WILL OBEY.

Deliberate, or a convenient coincidence that this was a double post?I see what you did there.

FTFY

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Zorin_75 » Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:25 pm UTC

mscha wrote:I don't know about rivers, but fjords and lakes can certainly be much deeper than the surface, or even the bottom of the sea.
The Sognefjord in Norway, for instance, is over 1300m (≈ 750q) deep, while the sea it flows into is at most a few hundred meters (≈ 100q) deep.
But try to explain glacial erosion to Cuegan...

Ok, but then fjords actually don't flow fast, so wouldn't Cuegan still be right?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby akacat » Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:28 pm UTC

ergman wrote:Regardless, their bags are surely stolen by now.

By what/whom -- a molpy? Raptor? Or LePetite? (Ooh, maybe she's in league with the molpies!)

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:37 pm UTC

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ergman wrote:Regardless, their bags are surely stolen by now.

By what/whom -- a molpy? Raptor? Or LePetite? (Ooh, maybe she's in league with the molpies!)


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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:47 pm UTC

Zorin_75 wrote:
mscha wrote: How high have they climbed since they left the river³?

40q, if you consider the stitching a valid representation (two very incomplete trees in the last frames, definitely not neat).

Thanks. So that'd mean that the river is about 15q higher than where they left it. Seems reasonable.
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mscha wrote:I don't know about rivers, but fjords and lakes can certainly be much deeper than the surface, or even the bottom of the sea.
The Sognefjord in Norway, for instance, is over 1300m (≈ 750q) deep, while the sea it flows into is at most a few hundred meters (≈ 100q) deep.
But try to explain glacial erosion to Cuegan...

Ok, but then fjords actually don't flow fast, so wouldn't Cuegan still be right?

Not really, but are they ever? Image
Well, they might be right that the water wouldn't cut any deeper than sea level, but glaciers certainly do on a regular basis.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby kenmelken » Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:49 pm UTC

Blind-posting from 7 NPs ago as I struggle to ketchup:

partingLance wrote:<snipped a bunch of stuff about his awesome new Quest he's embarking on>There's been talk of seeking various Eras and Eons and Periods in the OTT, but this seemed to fizzle out in general agreement that, owing to its complex and interwoven nature, it might be a hopeless, and would certainly be a very difficult, task.


=( The maintenance and organization of such eras and such has largely felt like my only real contribution here. Perhaps if those services are not actually in demand, I should forfeit my own WikiQuest? I knew it was not the most exciting stuff, and certainly was never hailed or trumpeted as is partingLance's new quest, but I guess I hoped it in some way contributed value to the preservation and maintenance of the wiki's recording of the OTC's history and overall story arc and divisions.

*sigh* Perhaps this has been discussed at greater length in the 7 NPs since that post. I guess I shall soon know as I blitz through them to ketchup again.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby taixzo » Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:57 pm UTC

Kabuthunk wrote:Sweet sassy mollassy, this topic has grown crazy massive. Last time I posted (late April), the thread was about 400 pages long. It's over double that now. Crazy.

At least there's a number of sites I can use to watch the progress every so often.


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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:59 pm UTC

Don't worry, kenmelken: partingLance was talking about the creation of Periods and Eras for the One True Thread, not the One True Comic.
I, for one, greatly appreciate all the work you've done on keeping the OTC chronology up to date on the Wiki.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby azule » Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:59 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Zorin_75 » Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:02 am UTC

BlitzGirl wrote:Image

Haha, great!

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No no, what Blitzgirl said - that wasn't about your effort. Good job, keep at it...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Zorin_75 » Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:03 am UTC

More standONG around...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlueCrab » Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:14 am UTC

partingLance wrote: Here is the Chronicle of Firsts taken up as far as NP 50.
This was, and is, an interesting exercise. <snipped> very much a work in regress progress, and I make no claim to its being final or definitive. Which is as much as to say: I stand, or rather Wait, to be corrected.

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sbn: I think beesnakes leave a trail, to denote their chaotic paths. Cuegan doesn't leave a trail, because they go straight from one place to another, but the beesnakes go Family Circus style, so need a trail. So, yeah, I'm in the 'just a bug' camp. (Unless it's some bug that pulls in its tail when it lands.)
I interpreted the rock's trail as dust from Cueball crumbling it, and I figured the beesnakes were either more visible or more amusing with their little Family Circus trails (thanks for the type identification, sbn, that's exactly what they look like!) Then again, I really like the idea of bugs with retractable tails! ...no, I don't think I said that quite right; I like the idea of bugs with retractable tails, but would really dislike encountering one in the Outside.
mscha: Or it's some kind of time-traveling bug, that leaves an echo of itself in places where it has been in the past few seconds. Therefore, when it sits still, you see a simple bug, and when it moves, you see a beesnake.
That's what I get when I apply Occam's razor, but I might have assembled it incorrectly...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby kenmelken » Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:34 am UTC

More Ketchup posting:

From 809:

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Post, then ONG. Besides, they ONGed while they were talkONG.


To answer your question, Cuegan - high up in the North in the land called Svithjod, there stands a rock. It is a hundred miles high and a hundred miles wide. Every thousand newpix a little river comes to this rock to fall off the edge. When the river has thus worn the rock away, then a single day of eternity will have gone by.


Hey... that sounds really familiar... I think I like it... ;)
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Re: 1190: "Time" Rising and Falling Action

Postby SBN » Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:46 am UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby charlie_grumbles » Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:00 am UTC

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mscha wrote:I don't know about rivers, but fjords and lakes can certainly be much deeper than the surface, or even the bottom of the sea.
The Sognefjord in Norway, for instance, is over 1300m (≈ 750q) deep, while the sea it flows into is at most a few hundred meters (≈ 100q) deep.
But try to explain glacial erosion to Cuegan...


Actually the Hudson "River" in New York is something like that. Not quite so extreme, though.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:04 am UTC

Finally, they're about to leave, after 37 frames at the wowterfall. (3 front view, 4 zoomed-out side view, 30 front view.)
Just as I'm about to C.O.M.A., so I'll miss all of the excitement: Will the backpacks still be there? Will they attempt to cross the river¹⁰? Who will fall in?

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mscha wrote:I don't know about rivers, but fjords and lakes can certainly be much deeper than the surface, or even the bottom of the sea.
The Sognefjord in Norway, for instance, is over 1300m (≈ 750q) deep, while the sea it flows into is at most a few hundred meters (≈ 100q) deep.
But try to explain glacial erosion to Cuegan...

Actually the Hudson "River" in New York is something like that. Not quite so extreme, though.

Isn't the lower Hudson River actually a fjord? Wikipedia says yes.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ucim » Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:10 am UTC

kenmelken wrote:The maintenance and organization of such eras and such has largely felt like my only real contribution here. Perhaps if those services are not actually in demand, I should forfeit my own WikiQuest? I knew it was not the most exciting stuff, and certainly was never hailed or trumpeted as is partingLance's new quest, but I guess I hoped it in some way contributed value to the preservation and maintenance of the wiki's recording of the OTC's history and overall story arc and divisions.
We all contribute in our own way, and your contributions are greatly appreciated. I personally refer to your contributions (the eras) myself on the wiki, and am really grateful for your work on it. The Quest partingLance is embarking on is a Blitz of eight hundred pages of posts, and qualifies as a True BlitzQuest, which always catches the eye of the Pope of the Holy Contradiction. (Well, actually not always, as he's not all that competent, but he's probably better than the First Cleric!)

The Wiki is not a part of the Order of the Holy Contradiction, but as they say, there is a blessing for everything. I bid you, kenmelken, rise and kneel.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby AluisioASG » Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:16 am UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby k.bookbinder » Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:17 am UTC

Sweet sassy mollassy! I have had my ketchup today. It is quite interesting, all that Cuegan seem to be learning, or deducing anyway, from atop the waterfall. It shall be interesting to watch their continued ascent up to the top of the mountain. They'll be sorry if they do find that squirpies have pilfered their bags. Best they hurry on their way.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby charlie_grumbles » Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:17 am UTC

mscha wrote:
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mscha wrote:I don't know about rivers, but fjords and lakes can certainly be much deeper than the surface, or even the bottom of the sea.
The Sognefjord in Norway, for instance, is over 1300m (≈ 750q) deep, while the sea it flows into is at most a few hundred meters (≈ 100q) deep.
But try to explain glacial erosion to Cuegan...

Actually the Hudson "River" in New York is something like that. Not quite so extreme, though.

Isn't the lower Hudson River actually a fjord? Wikipedia says yes.


Yes, but not so spectacular as Norway. Ocean going ships can go up as far as Albany (bit more than 100 miles inland), where a dam stops them. Above that it is a river2. Tidal all the way to Albany, Salt(ish) for about half of that.

The salt front is normally about Newbugh, NY, but can go as far North as Poughkeepsie in a dry year. At Poughkeepsie its width isn't much more than a football field/soccer pitch. There are a couple of wide spots (Tappan Zee, from the Dutch) and some very narrow spots, as near the West Point military academy where it was chained across to stop British ships during our revolution.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:21 am UTC

AluisioASG wrote:
charlie_grumbles wrote:leav-ONG
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Hmmm... is Cueball floating?

No, he still has one foot on the ground.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby k.bookbinder » Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:31 am UTC

kenmelken wrote:Blind-posting from 7 NPs ago as I struggle to ketchup:

partingLance wrote:<snipped a bunch of stuff about his awesome new Quest he's embarking on>There's been talk of seeking various Eras and Eons and Periods in the OTT, but this seemed to fizzle out in general agreement that, owing to its complex and interwoven nature, it might be a hopeless, and would certainly be a very difficult, task.


=( The maintenance and organization of such eras and such has largely felt like my only real contribution here. Perhaps if those services are not actually in demand, I should forfeit my own WikiQuest? I knew it was not the most exciting stuff, and certainly was never hailed or trumpeted as is partingLance's new quest, but I guess I hoped it in some way contributed value to the preservation and maintenance of the wiki's recording of the OTC's history and overall story arc and divisions.

*sigh* Perhaps this has been discussed at greater length in the 7 NPs since that post. I guess I shall soon know as I blitz through them to ketchup again.

BTW: Wowterfall = mind-blowingly awesome. Props to all those who made various correct predictions.


Personally I feel you're making a wonderful contribution. Perhaps one might not call it "exciting," per say, but a valuable contribution nonetheless. As one trained academically as a historian, I feel it does have value. It is most definitely an important part of preserving the OTC.

I think the further chronicallization of periods and eras and such may actually require more time, or Time, or both. At such time that we may again look back and see more clearly, and discuss more accurately, how the passage of Time should be further segmented. At which time, I hope, that Edfel, our Holy Catographer, can expand on the graphic map of Time's times.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby taixzo » Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:41 am UTC

mscha wrote:
AluisioASG wrote:
charlie_grumbles wrote:leav-ONG
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Hmmm... is Cueball floating?

No, he still has one foot on the ground.
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It looks like Cueball is about to just walk off the cliff they're at the top of!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Kieryn » Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:49 am UTC

Quick Blind Ketchup...
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NewData as of about 10 newpix ago.
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Added Latent22 numbers. Without you, we'll never really have any idea what Randall is really up to...
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My previous text was hard to understand so i've done a cool graph that shows his modifications compared to when they were released.

You will notice all the times he has changed things just before they get released!. There is even one frame where it seems he modified it AFTER it was released. So there is possible now two versions of this frame out there....

You can also see the steping line where he does more batches.

And also because of these last minute edits it suggests that it is in fact dynamic and he is changing and adding to it before it comes out. That would suggest that even if we knew the hash we would only get a little way ahead until we reach the point of Time that has not been written yet. So this means the future is not fixed and Megan/Cueball have free will etc. Someone could look at all the last minute changed Frames and see if their is anything important that he might have changed. Some of them are text frames and he may have just changed the dialog last minute.

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@mscha - Well done on one of (if not the) best predictions of the OTT to date.
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@partingLance - A noble quest indeed. I hope my forum navigator page can help you somewhat with that. I will at some point in the future provide more data assistance in your quest.
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That's a hard newpix to follow. But I think I've finally figured out my proper role in the OTT. After all, in the Outside I'm a geologist, and in my previous career [sic] was a historian. So when it comes to creative writing, the visual arts, music, computer programming, graphics, millinery haberdashery above and beyond the call, and so on, I'll have to defer to others too numerous to mention.

But! I do excel at the exacting, painstaking, nit-picking collection and ordering of data -- of the one-damn-thing-after-another kind of data, in particular. So I began to think possibly heretical thoughts the other dix. There's been talk of seeking various Eras and Eons and Periods in the OTT, but this seemed to fizzle out in general agreement that, owing to its complex and interwoven nature, it might be a hopeless, and would certainly be a very difficult, task.

But -- thought I to myself, thought I -- has anyone compiled a simple Chronicle of the OTT? Just a chronological listing (by NP of course, no Outsider time units) of OTT Firsts? All the OTT words we now take for granted -- when, exactly, were they coined? And all the familiar tropes, and in-jokes, and references to bits of Outside culture on the subject of [heresy, because not capitalized]time[/hbnc]? When did someone first mention the Javascript, or Hendrix's "Castles Made of Sand," or "Waiting For Godot" (this last far later on than you might think)? Not to mention semencaffeinecancerbabiesonice, and so forth.

If it's been done on the wiki or elsewhere, I haven't found it. Herewith, then, the first instalment of a Chronicle of Firsts (title still to be formalized; I'm open to suggestions), taken up as far as (sigh!) NP10. (I've actually researched it as far as NP25, but still have some formatting and editing to do).

Now, I could always do this just by searching; and in some cases, where I think I may have overlooked something, I have double-checked that way. But I decided to get right down on the metal, and do this the old-fashioned, and of course the hard way, by Blitzing.

No doubt, as Time goes on, these Firsts will come farther and farther apart. Even so, I'm not sure I'll get caught up to anywhere near the Present, or even as far as NP400 or so, before the end of Time. But so it goes, to those of us enjoined to Wait for it.

The OTT: When was the First speculation on, or mention of...?
NP1: Randall's personal life
NP1: An Outside song (link to "Only Time," Enya)
NP1: An "indefinite" thread ("5 years from now...")
NP2: Loopism ("every 24 hours, or perhaps every week")
NP2: GIFfing the images
NP2: "Diffing" the images
NP3: The JavaScript
NP4: Flip-book (a wish for)
NP4: An updating GIF
NP5: Death
NP5: Randall reading the OTT, laughing
NP5: Tides
NP5: Aubronwood's auto-updating viewer
NP6: John Cage's 4'33"
NP7: Randall modifying the OTC in response to OTT comments
NP8: The end of the OTC (sand castle erodes to nothing)
NP8: Pregnancy
NP8: Cancer test results
NP8: The Pitch Drop Experiment
NP9: Filk (of Ecclesiastes)
NP9: Click and Drag (xkcd 1110)
NP9: The Time riddle (from The Hobbit)
NP9: Beckett (Endgame)
NP9: Hendrix, "Castles Made of Sand"
NP10: Flags (on sand castle, a wish for)
NP10: URL of first frame ("lost to time")


@HES -- something else I had thought of doing but knew there's no way I would have time. Thank you for taking this on! Awesome :-)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:53 am UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ChronosDragon » Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:03 am UTC

Haven't been posting much today, but I didn't have much to say. I created a page on the wiki to coagulate the graphs and maps and stuff, details there. I also rebuilt my Side Project map from scratch in an older version of Hammer (using HL2: Episode 2 for now because my tf2 got steampip'd) and started modelling the beach. HES, we should get a place where we can exchange map stuff so we're not doing the same work twice. I also discovered that 361 is 19². That is all.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby AluisioASG » Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:04 am UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlitzGirl » Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:09 am UTC

ChronosDragon wrote:<snip> I also discovered that 361 is 19².

And 3+6+1=1+9. It's all related!



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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby fhorn » Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:10 am UTC

ttscp wrote:<a learned discussion of the OTT, midpoint, speculation about Cueball's trek, extensive footnotes>

ttscp, what about the golden mean/golden ratio? It's been found in art, achitecture, music and literature.... why not the OTC?


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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ChronosDragon » Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:24 am UTC

BlitzGirl wrote:
ChronosDragon wrote:<snip> I also discovered that 361 is 19².

And 3+6+1=1+9. It's all related!



2 I added a footnote to mess with the numbers.


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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ergman » Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:27 am UTC

fhorn wrote:
ttscp wrote:<a learned discussion of the OTT, midpoint, speculation about Cueball's trek, extensive footnotes>

ttscp, what about the golden mean/golden ratio? It's been found in art, achitecture, music and literature.... why not the OTC?


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fhorn wrote:Stuff with which to pelt... didn't know if the supply in the back of the cave was getting low/stale/eaten.
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Did you take that photo yourself? :)


ha ha, EW, no. That bit of evil was perpetrated by the internets.

Kieryn wrote:Also -- is pizza the new cake, or is pizza cake the new pizza?
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ETA: Sweet sassy mollassy, PIZZA CAKE! Thanks, Kieryn!!!

I saw that, you. that was the most double-licious of all double posts. :P
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