1190: "Time"

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby CasCat » Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:14 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby r34ver » Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:17 pm UTC

Has anyone considered that the beanies are in fact some kind of helmet? Perhaps Cuegan will need them too if they follow these folks into what we might assume is a plateau?

Can I also use this opportunity to say thanks for the effort that you guys are putting into analysing the minutiae of this comic (seems trivial to call it a comic now). I'm a habitual lurker and return to the OTT mainly when things get spicy, and your contemplations make it that much more interesting (and rewarding too on the occasions where my interpretations match those of the more dedicated). Loving the linguistic analysis, I wouldn't put it past Randall to have created a whole new language.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HES » Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:23 pm UTC

edo wrote:You know, if you look at language's evolution over the past 5000 years, it's amazing we can understand our protagonists.
Has anyone tried to read Canterbury Tales? That's only ~600 years old.

The TARDIS is nearby, of course. The beanies' language doesn't translate because smencoffeecancerbabiesonicemolpygrapevine
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby adnapemit » Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:26 pm UTC

r34ver wrote:Has anyone considered that the beanies are in fact some kind of helmet?

For a tweetle molpy semencoffeecancerbaconbabies beanies battle?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby taixzo » Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:26 pm UTC

anabatica wrote:
foilman wrote:Thank you ONG.
And now they'll all walk off.


You think? But what if these people know something about what's happening to the sea? I don't think Cuegan will forget their objective so quickly.


They may give up on it, though, if they can't understand Beanish.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby higgs-boson » Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:35 pm UTC

And, finally, here we are: What-If #53: Drain the Oceans
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby edfel » Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:36 pm UTC

taixzo wrote:
anabatica wrote:
foilman wrote:Thank you ONG.
And now they'll all walk off.


You think? But what if these people know something about what's happening to the sea? I don't think Cuegan will forget their objective so quickly.


They may give up on it, though, if they can't understand Beanish.


They could try hand-gestures. I'd love to see stick figures mime sea level rising...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:39 pm UTC

higgs-boson wrote:And, finally, here we are: What-If #53: Drain the Oceans

<related it="all">At least we know where Cuegan are, and why the sea¹ is rising.</related>
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Dracomax » Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:39 pm UTC

I predict we will see a montage where they gradually grow to understand the beanish language over the course of a couple of dozen frames, only to hear the beanish people say such things as, Well, the sea does what it wants. it is big.

To which Cuegan will reply, "Neat"
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Eutychus » Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:43 pm UTC

mscha wrote:
higgs-boson wrote:And, finally, here we are: What-If #53: Drain the Oceans

<related it="all">At least we know where Cuegan are, and why the sea¹ is rising.</related>


We do? It's not rising anywhere in that comic, is it?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby taixzo » Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:44 pm UTC

mscha wrote:
higgs-boson wrote:And, finally, here we are: What-If #53: Drain the Oceans

<related it="all">At least we know where Cuegan are, and why the sea¹ is rising.</related>


But wait! The sea should be falling in that case!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:47 pm UTC

Eutychus wrote:
mscha wrote:
higgs-boson wrote:And, finally, here we are: What-If #53: Drain the Oceans

<related it="all">At least we know where Cuegan are, and why the sea¹ is rising.</related>

We do? It's not rising anywhere in that comic, is it?

Cuegan are at the other end of the portal, possibly on Mars.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Angelastic » Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:49 pm UTC

What-If 53 wrote:the oceans are huge

The sea is big.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Kieryn » Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:49 pm UTC

edo wrote:You know, if you look at language's evolution over the past 5000 years 1000+ NP, it's amazing we can understand our protagonists.
Has anyone tried to read Canterbury Tales? That's only ~600 years old.


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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby taixzo » Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:50 pm UTC

Angelastic wrote:
What-If 53 wrote:the oceans are huge

The sea is big.


And, if we put a portal in it, it does what we want.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Dracomax » Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:52 pm UTC

taixzo wrote:
Angelastic wrote:
What-If 53 wrote:the oceans are huge

The sea is big.


And, if we put a portal in it, it does what we want.

Well, no, it does what Nobody wants. Even the martians would have a bad time of it, and I wish GLR had put a bit of exposition on how Mars gets screwed by the hypthetical portal.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby AluisioASG » Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:56 pm UTC

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I wonder if the Beanies are Dutch.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby AluisioASG » Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:00 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby mscha » Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:05 pm UTC

AluisioASG wrote:I wonder if the Beanies are Dutch.

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AluisioASG wrote:ETA: Happy 300th, higgs-boson!

Indeed! Have some (actually visible) cupcake, higgs-boson! (Valarya, please forgive me, but these were too cool to ignore.)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby higgs-boson » Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:08 pm UTC

mscha wrote:
AluisioASG wrote:I wonder if the Beanies are Dutch.

Way ahead of you (and Randall). Image

AluisioASG wrote:ETA: Happy 300th, higgs-boson!

Indeed! Have some (actually visible) cupcake, higgs-boson! (Valarya, plese forgive me, but these were too cool to ignore.)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby CasCat » Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:18 pm UTC

AluisioASG wrote:ComONG
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Heh. Yes. Beanie #3 is about to trip....
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby yappobiscuits » Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:23 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ChronosDragon » Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:28 pm UTC

AluisioASG wrote:.b{thzelikhxz uywqretb}
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AluisioASG wrote:I guess it (writing) stopped being fun. But I still like the story, I like imagining it...

In that case, try just concentrating on the story part, before actually writing the dialog and such. Instead of writing out the dialog and the action and all those details, first come up with the setup:

Our protagonist wants his girlfriend back.
Somebody else (the antagonist) wants that to not happen (could be the new boyfriend, could be the father...)
... it could even be the girlfriend's boss
Protagonist comes up with a plan: go back in time.
... fortunately he is the head of the Time Machine Company

Put some difficulties in his way way:
... it costs a lot of money to go back in time, so he's going to have to come up with an excuse.
... the board approves the trip back in time (under these false pretenses) but our antagonist needs to come along too.

etc... until your basic plot line is complete. Don't actually write the story yet. Now go back and ensure that the story actually flows well. If you are like me, you'll find that there are many things that need adjustment. For example, Fred needs to have known about Susan's betrayal before he can confront her. Or, he will need to have been (believably) unaware of it when he meets Susan (and would otherwise confront her). So, that tells you scenes that need to be put in between. You'll find other scenes that are not necessary... for example it may turn out to be unimportant that Fred was just made the head of the Time Machine Company... in which case you can drop that (still unwritten) scene and replace it with a sentence or two that merely establishes his position.

Once all the structure (the story itself) is laid out, then you can start writing the action, the dialog, the description, and all the other stuff that is the actual writing of the story.

Or, you may find that that particular story doesn't work at all. You can then drop it and move on to another one, with little wasted effort. In the future, parts of that (unused) story will probably make their way into other stories you dream up, and will work out better.

No matter what you write, there will be parts that work out better than other parts. That's ok. Only the mediocre are always at their best. :)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby jovialbard » Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:40 pm UTC

Dracomax wrote:
taixzo wrote:
Angelastic wrote:
What-If 53 wrote:the oceans are huge

The sea is big.


And, if we put a portal in it, it does what we want.

Well, no, it does what Nobody wants. Even the martians would have a bad time of it, and I wish GLR had put a bit of exposition on how Mars gets screwed by the hypthetical portal.


And I'm surprised he didn't go on to explain what would happen with the portal when the oceans ran out! Bye-bye atmosphere, we will miss you dearly...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Wildhound » Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:45 pm UTC

jovialbard wrote:
Dracomax wrote:
taixzo wrote:
Angelastic wrote:
What-If 53 wrote:the oceans are huge

The sea is big.


And, if we put a portal in it, it does what we want.

Well, no, it does what Nobody wants. Even the martians would have a bad time of it, and I wish GLR had put a bit of exposition on how Mars gets screwed by the hypthetical portal.


And I'm surprised he didn't go on to explain what would happen with the portal when the oceans ran out! Bye-bye atmosphere, we will miss you dearly...


I was working under the assumption that the magic portal only admitted H20 molecules. But then I supposed it would get plugged up with salt and other detritus pretty quickly. Also, it would still continue to suck in water vapor from the air until all lakes, seas and oceans were gone anyway.

Maybe it's an intelligent portal then?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby NoMouse » Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:51 pm UTC

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Angelastic wrote:
What-If 53 wrote:the oceans are huge

The sea is big.

I liked this line:
What-If 53 wrote:I don't even know what New Zealand is doing.
:D


And here's my theoryq: If we assume that Cuegan is really talking Englishw and Beanies have developed completely new language in 11000 years (which makes sense) then there is only one explanation for it - Cueball and Megan are either time travelers or they have been in stasis and the side effect of the time travel or stasis is this huge amnesia that causes they don't know how anything works.

q I'm almost sure someone has already come up with similar theory.
w Of course this may not be true.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby jovialbard » Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:55 pm UTC

Wildhound wrote:
jovialbard wrote:
Dracomax wrote:
taixzo wrote:
Angelastic wrote:
What-If 53 wrote:the oceans are huge

The sea is big.


And, if we put a portal in it, it does what we want.

Well, no, it does what Nobody wants. Even the martians would have a bad time of it, and I wish GLR had put a bit of exposition on how Mars gets screwed by the hypthetical portal.


And I'm surprised he didn't go on to explain what would happen with the portal when the oceans ran out! Bye-bye atmosphere, we will miss you dearly...


I was working under the assumption that the magic portal only admitted H20 molecules. But then I supposed it would get plugged up with salt and other detritus pretty quickly. Also, it would still continue to suck in water vapor from the air until all lakes, seas and oceans were gone anyway.

Maybe it's an intelligent portal then?


To keep things on topic, I suppose if it wasn't an intelligent portal, then it would suck in the atmosphere of earth until it stabilized with mars. With such a low altitude that would leave earth with a very thin atmosphere. Also, without a strong magnetic field mars would constantly be shedding atmosphere, though I'm not sure what the time scale for that would be. However, with that portal there some animals and plants might even be able to migrate to mars once the portal starts sucking atmosphere instead of water... but wait, where is Curiosity? The northern or southern hemisphere? Because if it was northern hemisphere then the portal would likely be under water eventually, so when the air starts coming giant bubble geysers would come pouring out, not great for animal or plant migration. Of course if it was northern hemisphere then they'd just have to fall for a bit... though I have to imagine that water flow that fast would create a sizable lake... oh no, I'm stuck in Randell theoretical land, help me GLR, you're my only hope.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby jovialbard » Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:56 pm UTC

NoMouse wrote:And here's my theoryq: If we assume that Cuegan is really talking Englishw and Beanies have developed completely new language in 11000 years (which makes sense) then there is only one explanation for it - Cueball and Megan are either time travelers or they have been in stasis and the side effect of the time travel or stasis is this huge amnesia that causes they don't know how anything works.

q I'm almost sure someone has already come up with similar theory.
w Of course this may not be true.


Or their conversation is just translated for our convenience and since we are following them from their perspective we don't get the translation of the others.

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Postby BlitzGirl » Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:59 pm UTC

I'm happy that we didn't get any "new" Beanish while I was acoma - saves me some work. As has been pointed out, Speech 5 is identical to the last two "words" of Speech 3. Since the symbols are exactly the same, I didn't bother to upload them, but copied the ones from Speech 3. Now we just have to figure out what ImageImage means!

The Speeches

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Re: 1190: "Time"

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ucim » Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:00 pm UTC

I added a page to the wiki:
http://xkcd-time.wikia.com/wiki/Beanish_dialog
concentrating on phrases of the Beanish dialog. Perhaps it will be helpful to those who are looking for phrase and word repeats to synch with speculated meanings. Feel free to edit.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby NoMouse » Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:02 pm UTC

jovialbard wrote:
NoMouse wrote:
Spoiler:
And here's my theoryq: If we assume that Cuegan is really talking Englishw and Beanies have developed completely new language in 11000 years (which makes sense) then there is only one explanation for it - Cueball and Megan are either time travelers or they have been in stasis and the side effect of the time travel or stasis is this huge amnesia that causes they don't know how anything works.
q I'm almost sure someone has already come up with similar theory.
w Of course this may not be true.

Or their conversation is just translated for our convenience and since we are following them from their perspective we don't get the translation of the others.

Yes, that's what I meant with the second footnote.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby BlueCrab » Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:04 pm UTC

mscha wrote:I've added a simple viewer to my site, which allows you to view the frames one at a time.
Wow, I used your site for the first time less than 5 minutes before reading this post. The viewer is really helpful and intuitive, thanks yet again for all you do!

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BlueCrab wrote:And since the GLR pays so much attention to the everything, we have hope that the OTC won't share certain of BSG's flaws. From what they said after the series was over the creators were substantially making it up as they went along, and they ended up with enough loose ends, lame explanations, and ‘just ignore that bit’ details to drive a body crazy.


I think this is all as new to GLR as it is to us. He hasn't ever written an xkcd comic story like this, i.e. this whole idea of story arcs; beginning, middle, end; Chekov's gun etc. So, from that perspective, I think it is very possible for him to make mistakesH. I don't think he has actually written the entire thing, frame for frame, in advance (although I agree he probably has a sense of where he's going). But I suspect he doesn't have the benefit of a first draft, second draft, etc. So I wouldn't be surprised if there are, indeed, ways in which his story contains those same kinds of BSG flaws.

Well, sure, he's probably going to make mistakesno heresy here, see the rest of the clause from a traditional storytelling perspective, but the bottom line is that because of GLR's very particular attention to detail and because he apparently has no interest in what we say here, the OTC maintains an internal consistency that BSG ended up lacking. (The later storylines in BSG appear to have been influenced by fan speculation.)
(If GLR ends by saying the OTC was all a dream, like in the movie of the Wizard of Oz and certain television shows, I will hunt him down and glare at him with extreme intent. After telling him how much I admire his brain, of course.)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Flotter » Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:07 pm UTC

NoMouse wrote:
jovialbard wrote:
NoMouse wrote:
Spoiler:
And here's my theoryq: If we assume that Cuegan is really talking Englishw and Beanies have developed completely new language in 11000 years (which makes sense) then there is only one explanation for it - Cueball and Megan are either time travelers or they have been in stasis and the side effect of the time travel or stasis is this huge amnesia that causes they don't know how anything works.
q I'm almost sure someone has already come up with similar theory.
w Of course this may not be true.

Or their conversation is just translated for our convenience and since we are following them from their perspective we don't get the translation of the others.

Yes, that's what I meant with the second footnote.

Or everybody speaks the same non-English language but only Cuegan's is translated. Little far-fetched, very unlikely but I like to keep all options open.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby taixzo » Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:08 pm UTC

Flotter wrote:
NoMouse wrote:
jovialbard wrote:
NoMouse wrote:
Spoiler:
And here's my theoryq: If we assume that Cuegan is really talking Englishw and Beanies have developed completely new language in 11000 years (which makes sense) then there is only one explanation for it - Cueball and Megan are either time travelers or they have been in stasis and the side effect of the time travel or stasis is this huge amnesia that causes they don't know how anything works.
q I'm almost sure someone has already come up with similar theory.
w Of course this may not be true.

Or their conversation is just translated for our convenience and since we are following them from their perspective we don't get the translation of the others.

Yes, that's what I meant with the second footnote.

Or everybody speaks the same non-English language but only Cuegan's is translated. Little far-fetched, very unlikely but I like to keep all options open.


If they spoke the same, wouldn't Cuegan be able to understand the Beanies?
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Re: ᘛ - Beanish Update

Postby FullOfIt » Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:09 pm UTC

The one character I feel strongest that I've seen before is this one: Image
But Google is of no help. It's really annoying to look at it and feel this absolute certainty that I've seen it before, but not being able to remember where.

I looked briefly into shorthand, and there are some variants that resemble some of the beanish characters, but mostly the shorthand has much simpler shapes.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Flotter » Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:13 pm UTC

taixzo wrote:
Flotter wrote:
NoMouse wrote:
jovialbard wrote:
NoMouse wrote:
Spoiler:
And here's my theoryq: If we assume that Cuegan is really talking Englishw and Beanies have developed completely new language in 11000 years (which makes sense) then there is only one explanation for it - Cueball and Megan are either time travelers or they have been in stasis and the side effect of the time travel or stasis is this huge amnesia that causes they don't know how anything works.
q I'm almost sure someone has already come up with similar theory.
w Of course this may not be true.

Or their conversation is just translated for our convenience and since we are following them from their perspective we don't get the translation of the others.

Yes, that's what I meant with the second footnote.

Or everybody speaks the same non-English language but only Cuegan's is translated. Little far-fetched, very unlikely but I like to keep all options open.


If they spoke the same, wouldn't Cuegan be able to understand the Beanies?

They would, but there's no definitive proof yet that they don't.

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Re: ᘛ - Beanish Update

Postby Arky » Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:26 pm UTC

BlitzGirl wrote:I'm happy that we didn't get any "new" Beanish while I was acoma - saves me some work. As has been pointed out, Speech 5 is identical to the last two "words" of Speech 3. Since the symbols are exactly the same, I didn't bother to upload them, but copied the ones from Speech 3. Now we just have to figure out what ImageImage means!


It's hard to see how it would work if it was left to right because the vowel mark (if that is indeed what it is) is on the second character of the first word". Not that there's no possible words, but can't think of one in context.

If it is right to left it could easily be something like "now".
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ZoomanSP » Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:27 pm UTC

ucim wrote:I added a page to the wiki:
http://xkcd-time.wikia.com/wiki/Beanish_dialog
concentrating on phrases of the Beanish dialog. Perhaps it will be helpful to those who are looking for phrase and word repeats to synch with speculated meanings. Feel free to edit.

Thanks, that will surely be very useful. If you continue to add future Beanish dialogue lines in their original writing, it might be useful to condense BlitzGirl's "Groupings" list
Spoiler:
BlitzGirl wrote:The Groupings

The flats: Image Image Image Image
The epsilons: Image Image Image Image Image Image
The longtails: Image Image Image Image Image
The curled yews: Image Image Image
The pinched loops : Image Image
The sevens: Image Image Image Image
The kay: Image
The humpbacks: Image Image Image
The enns: Image Image
The closed nines: Image Image
The chairs: Image Image Image Image
The snake: Image
The open nine: Image
The twos: Image Image
The sixes: Image Image
so that each presumed character appears only once (e.g., I posit that Image is the same character as Image). Your collection will then serve as a reference if two similar characters turn out to be different later on.
ETA: Image, just for finding firstposts.
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