Controversial opinions about food

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Re: Controversial opinions about food

Postby pkcommando » Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:59 pm UTC

philsov wrote:Italian sausage is a blight upon the land and must be purged.

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BURN THE BLASPHEMER!!!



Unless you plan to replace it all w/ Greek sausage and bangers. I'd be okay w/ that, then. And I suppose chorizo is a good substitute for Italian sausage.

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Re: Controversial opinions about food

Postby bigglesworth » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:44 pm UTC

Italian ham is really, really good, but Italian sausage is merely overrated, not bad.
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Re: Controversial opinions about food

Postby Puppyclaws » Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:22 am UTC

philsov wrote:Italian sausage is a blight upon the land and must be purged.


I love good Italian sausage...but that is like 1% of all Italian sausage. ~50% of Italian sausage is just very very very bad (esp. that produced in Italian-American areas for some reason), so I can see where you are coming from here.

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Re: Controversial opinions about food

Postby SurgicalSteel » Sat Jul 13, 2013 5:29 am UTC

I love italian sausage, but I agree it's not the best.

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Re: Controversial opinions about food

Postby eSOANEM » Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:01 am UTC

bigglesworth wrote:Italian ham is really, really good, but Italian sausage is merely overrated, not bad.


The Spanish do ham even better.
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Re: Controversial opinions about food

Postby Puppyclaws » Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:16 pm UTC

SurgicalSteel wrote:I love italian sausage, but I agree it's not the best.

That title goes to linguica.


What?! Linguica is so boring. I was so excited when I moved here, "ooh, a new local form of sausage that is available on everything," but boy was I let down. The idea that linquica is good at all is a pretty controversial opinion! (So I guess you're in the right place.)

P.S. Chorizo is actually the best (not controversial).

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Re: Controversial opinions about food

Postby eSOANEM » Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:19 pm UTC

Depends on the chorizo. As a cooked sausage, it's pretty excellent, but in cold slices? I'd rather have a decent salami.
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Re: Controversial opinions about food

Postby Belial » Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:16 am UTC

Puppyclaws wrote:P.S. Chorizo is actually the best (not controversial).


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Re: Controversial opinions about food

Postby AngrySquirrel » Sun Jul 14, 2013 10:13 pm UTC

Salami is not food.
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Re: Controversial opinions about food

Postby Nath » Sun Jul 14, 2013 10:19 pm UTC

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Re: Controversial opinions about food

Postby TheAmazingRando » Mon Jul 15, 2013 6:10 pm UTC

Mexican chorizo, ground and scrambled with eggs, is one of the best hangover cures money can buy.

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Re: Controversial opinions about food

Postby Thesh » Mon Jul 15, 2013 6:13 pm UTC

That is just plain factually incorrect. Eggs, breakfast sausage, hash browns, rye toast, and orange juice (might want to wait until you get some food down) is the best hangover cure. A cup of chicken broth before you eat can be a big help as well.
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Re: Controversial opinions about food

Postby gmalivuk » Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:30 pm UTC

Do you not understand the structure, "one of the [superlative]", Thesh?
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Re: Controversial opinions about food

Postby Adam H » Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:31 pm UTC

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Re: Controversial opinions about food

Postby Thesh » Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:31 pm UTC

I do, I just misread it. It's still wrong, however, because it doesn't contain potatoes.

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Re: Controversial opinions about food

Postby Sandry » Tue Jul 16, 2013 5:26 pm UTC

Hrm, I suppose this is the right thread to say:
Sausage, salami, balogna, hotdogs and everything else in the "meat ground up until you have no idea what it is" are totally unappealing. (Yes, I know this isn't saying much coming from a vegetarian, but I quit every one of those things years before I went veggie. Because no. Just no.)
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Re: Controversial opinions about food

Postby gmalivuk » Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:13 pm UTC

I never got why the "you don't know what it is" factor grosses people out so much. Sure, I wouldn't want to eat something that might have bits of other animals in it besides the ones I knowingly pay for, but why should it matter what *parts* of said animals I'm eating?

Squeamishness about eating unidentified pig parts always struck me as a bit of a first-world problem, with Americans simply being spoiled by the sheer number of animals we can slaughter to serve only their choicest parts.
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Re: Controversial opinions about food

Postby teenidle » Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:52 pm UTC

Sandry wrote: "meat ground up until you have no idea what it is"

That's the only kind of meat I'm willing to consume.

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Re: Controversial opinions about food

Postby gmalivuk » Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:34 pm UTC

Actually, yeah, there is something to be said for that attitude. There are some parts, such as tripe and subcutaneous fat and tails, which I avoid eating in recognizable form mostly because of the texture. If you can get rid of that by grinding it into a paste with a bunch of other parts, then I'm good to go.

(Also, I can be convinced to eat it if it's in the form of a sufficiently delicious stew.)
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Re: Controversial opinions about food

Postby Izawwlgood » Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:37 pm UTC

Is there greater concern of transmittable pathogens in certain parts? Like, I wager tripe carries one type of parasite more frequently than flank steak does.
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Re: Controversial opinions about food

Postby PAstrychef » Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:41 pm UTC

Mostly it's randomly mixed up scrap made into ground meat that has the greatest chance of being contaminated. I like to buy chuck when it's on sale and grind my own when possible.
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Re: Controversial opinions about food

Postby sparkyb » Tue Jul 16, 2013 10:55 pm UTC

gmalivuk wrote:There are some parts, such as tripe and subcutaneous fat and tails, which I avoid eating in recognizable form mostly because of the texture. If you can get rid of that by grinding it into a paste with a bunch of other parts, then I'm good to go.


Enjoy your pink slime.

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Re: Controversial opinions about food

Postby gmalivuk » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:37 pm UTC

I'm not saying it's appetizing when it's in that form, but then raw chicken meat isn't especially so, either. Or raw swine belly, come to that, and yet bacon is amazing.
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Re: Controversial opinions about food

Postby EchoRomulus » Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:51 am UTC

I heard someone doesn't like Italian sausage.

Somebody has never had a scotch egg! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

I am literally the only person in my household who likes scotch eggs in spite of the gastric trouble they can bring to the unsuspecting.

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Re: Controversial opinions about food

Postby Sheikh al-Majaneen » Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:00 am UTC

Beets are fucking awesome.

Everybody I know hates them.

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Re: Controversial opinions about food

Postby Nath » Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:46 am UTC

sparkyb wrote:
gmalivuk wrote:There are some parts, such as tripe and subcutaneous fat and tails, which I avoid eating in recognizable form mostly because of the texture. If you can get rid of that by grinding it into a paste with a bunch of other parts, then I'm good to go.


Enjoy your pink slime.

I've never understood the fuss about pink slime. Oh no, the meat companies are being unwasteful!

I love these mystery meats for their ability to take questionable bits of the animal and turn them into something palatable; there's only so much steak you can get from one steer. Then again, I like tripe and whatnot on their own, too. Mm. I'm thinking tacos for dinner.

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Re: Controversial opinions about food

Postby Thesh » Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:01 am UTC

Because it's nicknamed "pink slime." The media loves to scare people; it gets everyone glued to their TVs. And no, there is absolutely nothing wrong with offal in general, but some offal from some animals can be toxic (liver can have toxic concentrations of vitamin A); mixing offal with meat in sausage form is a good way to reduce those risks.
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Re: Controversial opinions about food

Postby Sandry » Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:28 pm UTC

I agree it's a practical thing to do. I just also have a high correlation from the past of eating things made of meat I couldn't identify and having my stomach kind of hate me. In particular, hot dogs invariably made me feel like shit. I guess I would put it under "learned squeamishness." Sausage and pepper sandwiches used to be one of my favourite things, but after a certain number of times of feeling awful after eating them, they're no longer appealing.

I'm a lot more willing to deal with unidentifiable vegetable mass, though, I'll admit.
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Re: Controversial opinions about food

Postby Mighty Jalapeno » Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:32 pm UTC

Thesh wrote: (liver from predatory animals can have toxic concentrations of vitamin A)

And you also need to eat quite a lot of it. The only cases of liver-related-vitamin-A-poisonings are from people eating wolves and polar bears.

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Re: Controversial opinions about food

Postby philsov » Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:52 pm UTC

Somebody has never had a scotch egg!


Never even heard of such a thing.

Based on what Wikipedia tells me, it sounds awesome though. I like most sausages; but somewhere between the spices and ingredients the 'italian' variety (like the kind one fights on pizza) is revolting.

Also -- beets are awesome, and red-colored pee is fun.
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Re: Controversial opinions about food

Postby Thesh » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:13 pm UTC

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Thesh wrote: (liver from predatory animals can have toxic concentrations of vitamin A)

And you also need to eat quite a lot of it. The only cases of liver-related-vitamin-A-poisonings are from people eating wolves and polar bears.


While it's true that carnivores develop significantly higher concentrations, it's also a matter of the age of the animal and how often you eat liver. Vitamin A doesn't easily leave your system, so older animals will have higher concentrations of vitamin A. In the same way, consuming a lot of liver from older cattle for a matter of years could result in Vitamin A toxicity, but it's just unlikely that someone would do that (although it's probably much easier for young children). Even an ounce of young cow liver is well beyond the RDA of Vitamin A (just nowhere near enough to be toxic by itself).
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Re: Controversial opinions about food

Postby Belial » Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:15 pm UTC

Who makes scotch eggs out of italian sausage? I make mine out of breakfast sausage.
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Re: Controversial opinions about food

Postby bouer » Sun Jul 21, 2013 2:38 pm UTC

Ammonium chloride is delicious. This is controversial where I live, and I'll never understand why.

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Re: Controversial opinions about food

Postby Whitekiboko » Sun Jul 21, 2013 4:10 pm UTC

White button mushrooms smell like semen and I can't understand why people eat them, but am appreciative that former girlfriends did.

I also tune people out if someone start complaining about kosher/halal meat.

I have no problem with the infected nature of blue cheese, it's the appeal of the chalky nature that baffles me. Generally I don't care for cold cheese, which is a 180 from when I was a kid.

Probably not controvesial, but I think the only bad brassica is brussels sprouts. Too sweet.

I also don't mind mechanically recovered meat. After college, there were some periods where I was poor, and was frankly happy to have a little more meat. The other day, I went to McDonalds for the first time in ages, and I forgot how damn tasty mcnuggets are. Though it may be the slightly celery-ish tasty that adds something.

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Re: Controversial opinions about food

Postby Bakemaster » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:37 pm UTC

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So what you're saying is that you are good at precisely measuring the ingredients without using calibrated tools. This is not a lack of measurement. Please, make your bread with 15% more liquid and show us how unimportant measurement is in baking. Make a lemon meringue pie, blindfolded. Produce for me even one NY-style cheesecake without cracks.

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Re: Controversial opinions about food

Postby bigglesworth » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:18 pm UTC

*claps hands ecstatically* Hallelujah! Preach it! :mrgreen:
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Re: Controversial opinions about food

Postby gmalivuk » Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:05 pm UTC

Adam H wrote:All mexican food is the same.
That is not a controversial opinion so much as a patently false claim of fact.
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Re: Controversial opinions about food

Postby Belial » Tue Jul 23, 2013 4:22 am UTC

Bakemaster wrote:So what you're saying is that you are good at precisely measuring the ingredients without using calibrated tools. This is not a lack of measurement.


So...uhh...what you just did was render invalid any sort of distinction between "measured" and "by eye/feel". Which, when the issue at hand is whether a process is one or the other, is a pretty silly thing to do.
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Re: Controversial opinions about food

Postby gmalivuk » Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:44 pm UTC

He seemed to focus more on the precision part than the physically using a measuring device part. Because the chemistry of baking absolutely does require more precision in general than cooking does.
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Re: Controversial opinions about food

Postby Mighty Jalapeno » Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:24 pm UTC

Which is why he is Bakemaster, and not just Chefprettygood.


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