Steve the Pocket wrote:Wow, Karilyn, you've done an amazing job of describing what a fucking awful country the US is, without even delving into national-level politics or history. I feel like there should be some kind of prize for that.
TBH that's pretty extraordinarily rude. It's generally not nice to talk such high levels of shit about the person a country lives in. I assume we're both still first world countries, and while America is hardly the greatest nation in the world (and people who claim that are out of their minds and unintentionally roadblocking fixing the problems we do have by burying their heads in the sand), it's hardly "fucking awful" either. There's a very very wide range between "greatest nation in the world" and "fucking awful" and America isn't at either end of them, but it's definitely far up on the positive side of things.
Steve the Pocket wrote:I'd like to add one thing: When people talk about "suburbs" in America, 90% of the time, what they mean is rural areas that have turned the former farmland into absurdly spread-out residential space. The word has become the equivalent of "middle class". Nobody wants to admit they live in "the country" in the same way nobody wants to admit they're "lower-class", so the old terms have simply passed out of use. I'm sure there's some sociological term for that. "Prestige creep" or something of the sort.
Not really. Suburb is a highly relative concept. Because America has far far more land to spread out in, the average square-footage and acreage of homes is a lot larger. That doesn't make it suddenly not suburbs because we have the landspace to have homes on 2 acre plots of land for homes instead of half acres in our suburbs.
I've been out in the rural areas, I have friends who have lived in rural areas. I have family that live in rural areas; I have family that are some of the most gawd awful unpleasant redneck hunters deep out in rural country that I'm frankly okay with pretending aren't related to me at all. I know what rural areas look like in America. The suburbs are very very very different. For the most part, Residential Subdivisions are the name of the game, our suburbs are warped around the concept of residential subdivisions; in America, if 90-95% of people in the area are living in apartments or Residential Subdivisions, and it's not an urban center, it's a suburb. If there aren't residential subdivisions and/or apartments, and/or if they are far and few inbetween, and the majority of people are living on individual roads with 20+ acre plots of land, then you're in rural country.
Also, in the future, try not to talk about other nationalities like that; it's just plain bigoted.
Pfhorrest wrote:I used to live in the Santa Barbara area, and when I'd show people downtown SB on Google Maps they'd say "Where is the city? This is all suburbs." Despite that being the dense business part of town, and nothing at all like the suburbs that surround it.
Also, I hate to say "this." But "this."
SecondTalon wrote:You don't buy houses here, tear them down and build an apartment building - you just put that on the edge of town. And you don't make it a single tower taking up only a block, you make it a complex of - at most - three stories, and you spread it out over a square mile.
Oh god this. I see like, on TV, tower apartments, and it's so alien to me. It's hard for me to even imagine. Every apartment I've lived in has been one of those square-mile apartments. And he's not joking. I've literally never seen an apartment building more than three stories tall (They /might/ have a basement floor, maybe). And let's not forget the average apartment size is between 75 m2
to 210 m2
. In fact, it's virtually impossible to find an apartment smaller than 65 m2
. They just do not exist.
Let's compare that to Europe, where the average HOME, the average HOME, not the average apartment size, in places like the UK, is 76 m about the same size as the absolute bare minimum tiniest apartments sold in America. What's the average square meters on American homes? 214m2
.http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/ ... 34x274.jpg
Also to my understanding, central A/C and central heating is virtually unheard of in European flats, whereas in American apartments you ALWAYS have it, no exceptions. It's considered a non-negotiable necessity on the same level as things like water or electricity.
Klear wrote:Back to walking x driving in the USA, I read somewhere (and by somewhere I mean a random thread on these forums) that in some US cities such as LA there are hardly any pavements and walking around by foot is asking for trouble. Is that correct?
I'm not certain about LA in particular, and I'm not 100% certain what you mean by pavement. I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that's a synonym for sidewalk. In American English, pavement refers to any road made of asphalt itself, the things cars drive on that pedestrians aren't allowed to walk along. Haha same-language language-barriers, it's a beautiful thing
(I always make a point to try and use non-American vocabulary when talking with non-Americans, as well as use metric units where I would reflexively use customary units, as I figure it eases the language-barrier issue if I swap the words I know, but as I'm not certain in this case, I'll just answer your question as if it was sidewalks, and if I'm wrong, then derp).
Anyway, I'd say around... oh god it's hard to even come up with a number. Sidewalks can vary in rarity a lot. Only talking urban and suburban areas, I'd say that sidewalks are on about 5% of roads total, but on about 40-50% of main roads. That would be my guess on average. In most places, the road just goes from the curb directly into the grass, which goes directly into homes or business parking lots, with nothing in-between. And even where there are sidewalk, unless the place you're going to doesn't have it's own parking lot and you're parking in a parking garage across the block, you basically never see someone on sidewalks, ever. They are the most ridiculously pointlessly empty things, and their sheer lack of use in 99% of locations makes me tend to lift them up as a perfect example of nonsensical government waste. Our cities aren't being designed for sidewalks, why are you throwing away money putting sidewalks in nobody will use just for the sake of being able to say you have sidewalks? Stop using Euclid Zoning, THEN think about spending tax dollars on sidewalks. Despite what you might have heard government, if you build it, that does not guarantee that they will come.http://collegetri.files.wordpress.com/2 ... a-road.jpg