1190: "Time"

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Bicycles After Time: bftf-0581 (ENAP: 3 so far)

Postby Sustainabilizer » Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:55 am UTC

INTEGRATONG … ∫bf(t)f(–581)dt = bf(–581)∫f(t)dt …
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I'd highly recommend following the first commandment ...again.
Mathematics:
Spoiler:
“∫” means “please integrate”, and “dt” means “with respect to time”.
Time deserves our respect, indeed.
Redundant:
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Dear invited speakers who hope for some organisation and/or reimbursement:
I've sent out several PMs and emails yesterday evening. You know what to do.


Oh – pope. :shock:
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if ((you are an invited speaker to the conference
     who hopes for some organisation and/or reimbursement from us)
    and ((you got a PM or email from me yesterday evening)
         or (there are other pending requests from us)))
  {
    non-optional
      {
        Do what needs to be done.
        RUN!
      }
  }
else
  {
    optional
      {
        Integrate something.
        Whatever that means to you.
        if (you do it with respect to Time)
          Bonus points! :)
      }
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Re: TimeAfterTime Revisited – t1i-0282

Postby Earthling on Mars » Sat Jan 03, 2015 2:02 pm UTC

SilentTimer wrote:
Spoiler:
Hills people? Pope ucim asked for speculations.

The post that this linked to reminded me of the epilogue sequence, and as of Summit 3 (heretical January 1), we have a Third Sequence of the Oughts:
AECBDADCDCEDB·DECBCBD·AE
Unfortunately, we're missing some of it due to continuing mustard.

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TimeAfterTime Revisited – t1i-0286

Postby SilentTimer » Sat Jan 03, 2015 5:00 pm UTC

... ACTUALLY, DILGUNNERUNGS SUGGEST IT'S RAPTORISH. ACTUALLY, IT'S A TREBUCHET. ACTUALLY, IT'S AN OLDPIX. ACTUALLY, IT'S A PLAN(C)K. ACTUALLY, HUGOS SUGGEST IT'S WEIRD. ACTUALLY, IT'S A FIRSTPOST. ACTUALLY, ... -- ongomome
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Wait for it.

Did you notice …
… the beesnake?
Spoiler:
… the plants?
Spoiler:
ergman and HES did.
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MOLPY ONGING THE EPILOGUE ... DOT CHIRPING MUSTARD DOT COM.

Postby mrob27 » Sat Jan 03, 2015 9:10 pm UTC

Earthling on Mars wrote: The post that this linked to reminded me of the epilogue sequence, and as of Summit 3 (heretical January 1), we have a Third Sequence of the Oughts:

  AECBDADCDCEDB·DECBCBD·AE

Unfortunately, we're missing some of it due to continuing mustard.

Please describe this "continuing mustard".

imagebot has been polling 5 times per newpix for a few mips now. She checks at :05, :15, :30, :45, and :55 past the hour. There are four imagebot instances of which the one on my primary botcastle (which publishes the pages at mrob.com/time) is sentient most often. Here are her 2015 data:

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From primary botcastle:

 20150101.00 AAAAA
 20150101.01 EEEEE
 20150101.02 CCCCC
 20150101.03 BBBBB
 20150101.04 DDDDD
 20150101.05 AAAAA
 20150101.06 DDDDD
 20150101.07 CCCCC
 20150101.08 DDDDD
 20150101.09 CCCCC
 20150101.10 EEEEE
 20150101.11 DDDDD
 20150101.12 BBBBB
 20150101.13 AAAAA
 20150101.14 DDDDD
 20150101.15 EEEEE
 20150101.16 CCCCC
 20150101.17 BBBBB
 20150101.18 CCCCC
 20150101.19 BBBBB
 20150101.20 DDDDD
 20150101.21 CCCCC
 20150101.22 AAAAA
 20150101.23 EEEEE
 20150102.00 AAAAA
 20150102.01 EEEEE
 20150102.02 CCCCC
 20150102.03 BBBBB
 20150102.04 DDDDD
 20150102.05 AAAAA
 20150102.06 DDDDD
 20150102.07 CCCCC
 20150102.08 DDDDD
 20150102.09 CCCCC
 20150102.10 EEEEE
 20150102.11 DDDDD
 20150102.12 BBBBB
 20150102.13 AAAAA
 20150102.14 DDDDD
 20150102.15 EEEEE
 20150102.16 CCCCC
 20150102.17 BBBBB
 20150102.18 CCCCC
 20150102.19 BBBBB
 20150102.20 DDDDD
 20150102.21 CCCCC
 20150102.22 AAAAA
 20150102.23 EEEEE
 20150103.00 AAAAA
 20150103.01 EEEEE
 20150103.02 CCCCC
 20150103.03 BBBBB
 20150103.04 DDDDD
 20150103.05 AAAAA
 20150103.06 DDDDD
 20150103.07 CCCCC
 20150103.08 DDDDD
 20150103.09 CCCCC
 20150103.10 EEEEE
 20150103.11 DDDDD
 20150103.12 BBBBB
 20150103.13 AAAAA
 20150103.14 DDDDD
 20150103.15 EEEEE
 20150103.16 CCCCC
 20150103.17 BBBBB
 20150103.18 CCCCC
 20150103.19 BBBBB
 20150103.20 DDDDD

... and from the secondary botcastle (a notebook computer which is
often asleep):

 20150101.04 DDD--
 20150101.06 ---DD
 20150101.07 CCCCC
 20150101.08 DDDDD
 20150101.09 CCCCC
 20150101.10 EE---
 20150101.14 --DDD
 20150101.15 EEEEE
 20150101.16 CCCCC
 20150101.17 BBBBB
 20150101.18 CCCCC
 20150101.19 BBBBB
 20150101.20 DDDDD
 20150101.21 CCCCC
 20150101.22 AAAAA
 20150101.23 EEEEE
 20150102.00 AAAAA
 20150102.01 EEEEE
 20150102.02 CCCCC
 20150102.03 BBB--
 20150102.04 DDDDD
 20150102.05 AAAAA
 20150102.06 DDDDD
 20150102.07 CCCCC
 20150102.08 DDDDD
 20150102.09 C----
 20150102.15 --EEE
 20150102.16 CCCCC
 20150102.17 BBBBB
 20150103.04 -DDDD
 20150103.06 DD---
 20150103.19 ---BB
 20150103.20 DDDDD
 20150103.21 CCCCC


The digits on the left are year, month, day, and hour according to UTC time. From these data I can fill in position 13 with "A" and position 21 with "C" (both by multiple unanimous votes of 5 out of 5) so we have:

  AECBDADCDCEDBADECBCBDCAE

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(Edit: clarify the date-time labels, add the just-completed instance of hour 21)
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Re: MOLPY ONGING THE EPILOGUE ... DOT CHIRPING MUSTARD DOT C

Postby Earthling on Mars » Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:09 pm UTC

mrob27 wrote:
Earthling on Mars wrote: The post that this linked to reminded me of the epilogue sequence, and as of Summit 3 (heretical January 1), we have a Third Sequence of the Oughts:

  AECBDADCDCEDB·DECBCBD·AE

Unfortunately, we're missing some of it due to continuing mustard.

Please describe this "continuing mustard".

Two or three frames have been missing from the epilogue sequence, as recorded by mscha's site, every day ever since Landing went up. Apparently imagebot, unlike mscha's bot, is not encountering this mustard for some reason.

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bftf-0582

Postby lmjb1964 » Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:00 pm UTC

MUSTARDONG IS SO LAST NEWPIX. -- ongomome
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THIS IS RECENT BLITZROCKET, I MUST DEMUSTARD IT

Postby mrob27 » Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:35 pm UTC

Earthling on Mars wrote: Two or three frames have been missing from the epilogue sequence, as recorded by mscha's site, every day ever since Landing went up. Apparently imagebot, unlike mscha's bot, is not encountering this mustard for some reason.


Oh, of course. @mscha's epilogue page.

@mscha and I conversed on this issue shortly before the TymiversaryT. At one point @mscha seemed to be using an algorithm that makes the following assumptions:

  • his computer's clock and the xkcd servers' clock are synchronized to within less than the datagram propagation time between them, and
  • a single poll at precisely 0 seconds past the hour (according to the server's clock) is sufficient to get the answer from a given server for that particular hour, and
  • polling multiple xkcd servers is enough to overcome any flaws in results from an individual server.

@mscha reported that one of the xkcd servers was 7 seconds slow (see this post and this post). Note the first assumption implicit in his statement that "IMO: a well-configured server should always be running NTP, and thus always be within a few milliseconds of actual time".?
  I tried to explain that there is no way the first two assumptions could reasonably be expected to work, and invoked our shared memory of delayed ONGs during the hallowed mips of the original Revelation of Time. I explicitly suggested that You could check at :05, :15, :30, :45 and :55, and use a majority 3-out-of-5 vote to determine which frame is the correct one.
  @mscha replied (by PM on 20140324) "That does make some sense", but pointed out that one can check the HTTP headers of the results, and from them can determine whether a server's clock is behind, thereby pointing out my first assumption above was not actually being assumed. In other words, @mscha seemed to believe that if the time in the server's header is as expected, then the contents of the server response can be used and that's good enough. We never got as far as discussing the internal timing between the different bits of software within an xkcd server, the distrubuted nature of the multiple xkcd servers, and how these could cause us to still get the previous epilogue timeframe if it's only, say, 27 milliseconds past the ONG when the request is handled.
  I don't like conflict so I dropped the discussion. There was also discussion of oldpixbot frequency and the Sadness (@mscha deliberately left the Present for a while in anticipation of it) and perhaps these distracted me from this particular @mscha debate to engage in other more important @mscha debates — I no longer remember.
  Eventually, my response to this was to implement the imagebot polling mechanism.

Looking at @mscha's page now, I can see that it is still suffering from a race condition, apparently since early November. You can see delayed letters in the Nov 17th and 18th results, where the previous hour's epilogue frame was reported by @mscha. (There is also a "C" at the 01:00 position on 20141118 that I still can't explain.)
  I hypothesize that the implementation of the Rosetta lander xkcd strip required a change in the software architecture that tells xkcd servers when to deliver a new frame of a comic, and that this change exposed the vulnerability of @mscha's assumptions in a way that the old architecture did not.

If OTTers are interested I'll aggregate the data from the various imagebots and make a webpage on mrob.com that shows the epilogue frames for the period I have been collecting it.

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TimeAfterTime Revisited – t1i-0288

Postby SilentTimer » Sun Jan 04, 2015 1:00 am UTC

BECOME AN NEEDLE-PULLED THUNGS -- ongomome
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Spoiler:
Wait for it.

Did you notice …
… that the ONGoing story can be divided into periods?
Spoiler:
yappobiscuits started with this.
… the chirpies? And the 2.5D effect?
Spoiler:
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Re: THIS IS RECENT BLITZROCKET, I MUST DEMUSTARD IT

Postby azule » Sun Jan 04, 2015 2:14 am UTC

Thanks, BG. Thanks, lmjb (you said I make an ottercomic, and I guess I did, referring to my todip comic).

I've been skimming a bit, so I'm sure I've missed notable things and whatnot. Maybe we should start including "TL;DR"'s any time something is long or complicated. My TL;DR is "thanked people, missed things, wanted features".

If OTTers are interested I'll aggregate the data from the various imagebots and make a webpage on mrob.com that shows the epilogue frames for the period I have been collecting it.
Yes, that would be great.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Sciscitor » Sun Jan 04, 2015 7:59 am UTC

For decree:
I have recently reorganized my highly organized sandcastles, disintegrating one of them and integrating a new one to be able to use it as a Time Accessor again.

Amongst the things that came out in the disintegration process were four still servicable HDD-units (one SATA with 160 GB and three identical PATA 120 GB). I know there are some OTTers around (like balthasar) who like to tinker with old electronics, so if an OTTer would like one or all of those (provided shipping is not more expensive than those units themselves), just leave me a note. Otherwise I will continue to disintegrate them properly in a few days.
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TimeAfterTime Revisited – t1i-0290

Postby SilentTimer » Sun Jan 04, 2015 9:00 am UTC

I'M DEVELOPUNG A SYSTEM TO ONG ARBITRARY CONDIMENTS. -- ongomome
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Wait for it.

Did you notice …
… the “Oof”?
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bftf-0583

Postby lmjb1964 » Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:00 am UTC

BRACE YOURSELVES, BRAINSLUG IS COMONG -- ongomome
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Re: bftf-0583

Postby Link » Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:36 am UTC

lmjb1964 wrote:BRACE YOURSELVES, BRAINSLUG IS COMONG

Augh, bad visual! Brain bleach may be needed to get rid of that one.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby addams » Sun Jan 04, 2015 2:14 pm UTC

Dr. Tyson is our Einstein and Feynman of Today, 2015.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hw8XWC6eJuE

well,...That's what I think of him.
He is comfortable talking to large groups of people.
He Teaches.

He is also a Working Scientist.
He knows his stuff so well, he can remove the Veil and let us See.

All he really says is, "Notice."
Notice The Stars, if you can.

Spoiler:
He said, "Maybe, if I had grown up under UnSpoiled Skies, I would not have been impressed with the Spectacleof Stars."
(That's totally Paraphrased.)

I'd like to answer him.
No. Dr. Tyson. You would have Noticed.

I lived under UnSpoiled Skies as a child.
I noticed.

Stupid Story Alert:
On Cold Winter Nights,
We drove in on a Dirt Road to a sweet little house on a knoll.

My GrandMother was Not a Contemplative.
In the dark we would get out of the car and stand silently looking at the stars.
On moonless nights, it was so dark we touched the car to stay steady.

Even GrandMa looked; Spellbound.
Sometimes we asked Questions.

Oh! After I got Glasses, I was Amazed at the Number of Stars.
I Loved my Glasses.

I only really needed them to see The Stars.
OK. You win. I also was deprived of The Stars.

My deprivation was not caused by Man, as yours was.
My deprivation was caused by Nature.
Life is, just, an exchange of electrons; It is up to us to give it meaning.

We are all in The Gutter.
Some of us see The Gutter.
Some of us see The Stars.
by mr. Oscar Wilde.

Those that want to Know; Know.
Those that do not Know; Don't tell them.
They do terrible things to people that Tell Them.

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TimeAfterTime Revisited – t1i-0292

Postby SilentTimer » Sun Jan 04, 2015 5:00 pm UTC

WELL CH*RP ME BAOBABISHLY WITH A NEEDLE-PULLED THUNG -- ongomome
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Spoiler:
Wait for it.

Did you notice …
… the top?
Spoiler:
Pope balthasar_s did.
HES, lmjb1964, and later balthasar_s himself followed the decree to speculate about the top.
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Re: 1190: "Time", enap=4

Postby balthasar_s » Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:53 pm UTC

For decree:
I was trying to re-integrate a broken DC supply.
One transistor has a cool hatcool.
It reminded me of Febrion.Hi!

it also looks kind of like a weird hatnot really.
not intended So wearing it actually makes you coolbut.
hat actually, it's a heatsinkpun?.
Hi! was online when I started writing this.
_t has a transistor head. But doesn't
or maybe it does? only if you imagine that the tranistor is a headbothasar.
wear a hat Maybe he should?


ETA: The bftf frame size, 410 and 290 I just used in an AI for an approximation of 21/2 for estimating distances.
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bftf-0584

Postby lmjb1964 » Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:00 pm UTC

DUNEISH SILENTONGS ARE SUPERIOR -- ongomome
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby addams » Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:11 pm UTC

What is the First Commandment?
Wait?

I remember the command, "Wait for it."
Are we still waiting? I can do that.
Life is, just, an exchange of electrons; It is up to us to give it meaning.

We are all in The Gutter.
Some of us see The Gutter.
Some of us see The Stars.
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Those that want to Know; Know.
Those that do not Know; Don't tell them.
They do terrible things to people that Tell Them.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby azule » Mon Jan 05, 2015 12:17 am UTC

Haha, yup, that's the one. Good thing it didn't ask for the third commandment … not everyone agrees on what that is.
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TimeAfterTime Revisited – t1i-0294

Postby SilentTimer » Mon Jan 05, 2015 1:00 am UTC

FLUTTERBEES HAVE OVER 27 WORDS FOR PUNS, BUT NONE FOR SCHIZOBLITZUNG -- ongomome
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Spoiler:
Wait for it.

Did you notice …
… the mustard?
Spoiler:
mscha, HES and lmjb1964 noticed and explained it.
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ALL YOUR LONGPIX ARE BELONG TO ROSETTA

Postby mrob27 » Mon Jan 05, 2015 2:21 am UTC

azule wrote: I've been skimming a bit, so I'm sure I've missed notable things and whatnot. Maybe we should start including "TL;DR"'s any time something is long or complicated. [...]

Oh, yeah :oops: good point!
  The tl;dr for my previous post is "yeah, @mscha has epilogue mustard, but it's easy to fix, and I did."

However, @mscha is redeemed, at least partly... read on.

Yes, that would be great.

Okay, I've started syncing the epilogue data between my botcastles, and there is now an mrob epilogue sequence page. It only goes back to last July, but that's better than nothing.
  You'll notice gaps. Most of these are my fault: I don't run my bots all the time. Compare to the fora uptime and look at 2014 October and you'll see similar gaps (offset by a few hours because one is in Randall local time and the other is in GMT).
  The gaps in November, on the other hand, are probably mostly xkcd's fault. And here you'll notice something interesting when comparing my page to mscha's epilogue page. While I got letters in some places @mscha did not (like a little bit of Nov 15th) there are many more places where @mscha got data and I did not.
  So while I try 5 times each hour and @mscha only tries once (I think), he is much more tenacious about it. Perhaps he uses repeated retries if a request fails, whereas I just consider the server to be down when a request fails.

The good news is we now have two sources of epilogue data, and I can for the first time confirm the recent instances of the sloshers or 'deviant' letters or whatever you want to call them. The sloshers (like the 'B' in the 0-hour position on 2014-12-20) are what made me start talking to @mscha in the first place. I thought they might be another side-effect of something, but no, they're real. :)

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Postby Eternal Density » Mon Jan 05, 2015 2:22 am UTC

@Sustainabilizer
I think I figured out how to RUN, finally. You should have an email from me, with an attachment that only you can read.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby addams » Mon Jan 05, 2015 2:55 am UTC

You people Rock.
And, You people Run.
How fun.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby azule » Mon Jan 05, 2015 3:43 am UTC

Or do we ....?
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TimeAfterTime Revisited – t1i-0295

Postby SilentTimer » Mon Jan 05, 2015 5:00 am UTC

SACRIFICUNG SACRIFICERS GONNA SACRIFICE -- ongomome
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Did you notice …
… the replacement dilgunnerang?
Spoiler:
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Then you will like its sequel: t1i. [Discussion] [Making Of]
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby azule » Mon Jan 05, 2015 5:06 am UTC

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ALSO, I CAN SUSTAINABILIZE YOU WITH MY EPILOGUE.

Postby mrob27 » Mon Jan 05, 2015 7:09 am UTC

I wonder what happened in November. I didn't post between OTT:2143:24 and OTT:2171:4, and there was serious epilogue mustard. The OTT doesn't seem to have commented on it until OTT:2164:34.

Here is a comparison of our two epilogue sequence pages during a good-sized chunk of the past two mips:

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mrob27 epilogue on the left   mscha epilogue on the right


@mscha has a lot more data during that really bad mustardy period in November. I'm not sure if we can trust the red days, but I suspect @mscha also felt suspicious about those data, which would explain why they're bright red.
  Or perhaps they're red at the suggestion of @ggh, who did some robust polling of the epilogue frames, (a bit like my own method), and reported on it at OTT:2167:37. She saw two different letters in the same hour sometimes! That's something imagebot never saw, though she only tries 5 times per nopix.

At times, both before and after that mid-November mess there was xkcd server mustard that was so mustardy that our bots were both stumped. But the "synergy" of our two approaches is evident all the way back to July, when my data starts: each of us has letters in places that the other does not.
  Maybe another bot will come along that approaches this problem the way @ggh did, or in yet another way that gives us even molpier redundancy! :D

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PLEASE RE-CONFIRM THAT WE GOT ALL WOTTERMOLPIES WE BLUENHANCE,
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WE BLUENHANCE THE WOTTERMOLPIES FOR.


Redundaspoiler, (no meowpies sorry Image)

Spoiler:
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comparison of mrob27 and mscha epilogue pages

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transparent vrsn. of the epilogue comparison


(Edit: Replace image with transparent version. @AluisioASG, you'll probably need to look at the other image in the spoiler.)
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THERE'S NO NEED TO PANIC. EVERYTHING IS FINE!

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lmjb1964 wrote:YOU CAN'T CRENELLATE YOUR OTTER AND BLITZ IT TOONG -- ongomome
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Dracomax » Mon Jan 05, 2015 11:49 am UTC

So, the cookie clicker infection had just about run it's course, when I discovered this:http://www.aqdragons.com/

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Neil_Boekend » Mon Jan 05, 2015 12:12 pm UTC

Don't install that app. It requires rights way beyond reasonable. It's probably spyware.
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TimeAfterTime Revisited – t1i-0297

Postby SilentTimer » Mon Jan 05, 2015 1:00 pm UTC

I LOVE THE BAGS. I LOVE THE WAITUNG. BFTF'S PRETTY COOL. BOOM DE YADA, BOOM DE YADA. -- ongomome
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Did you notice …
… that the mustard got fixed?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ergman » Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:31 pm UTC

I don't know if anyone is watching AGDQ http://www.twitch.tv/gamesdonequick, a game speedrunning marathon for cancer,

but it just featured a flying pink pricklymolp.
I made my avatar, Buffygirl hatted it, Yappo smileyed it and ggh taroted it!
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Marsh'n » Mon Jan 05, 2015 8:18 pm UTC

Marsh'n blitzing to you from NP528/2198

@azule I loved the Tale (Tail?) of Ffoxy!

@Vytron Another ava-carnation! Fits you like a... stocking. At this point in history, you're tracing your way through BlitzGirl's signposts. You were at 345/528 pages while she was at 289/341 (passing cmyk's ```~~**~* !whirly time ripple! *~**~~```) and reached her signpost 203/286, with your past self somewhere around 120. It will be fascinating to see where the thread is when I catch up to this!

So measuring myself based on your interpretation of Backward in Time, at my last post I was 178,000 years back, and now I'm only 151,000 years back. So I've made 27000 years of progress! (Unfortuntately, nothing of interest to GLR occurred in that time: they are both "Homo sapiens evolves".)

Still, I'm working on it...

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HES » Mon Jan 05, 2015 8:22 pm UTC

Chirp it, I left my real-life buffydashery replica behind and won't be back before the (non-heretical) new yip.
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Postby lmjb1964 » Mon Jan 05, 2015 11:00 pm UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Migratory Chicken » Mon Jan 05, 2015 11:42 pm UTC

NP 1111/2198 Discussion in the OTT has turned to mathematics, specifically to the concept of infinity. I figure I should put in a few of my thoughts. It started with the following puzzle:

cellocgw wrote:Which reminds me of a cool puzzler you can use to mystify non-mathematicians (or perhaps convince them of your total nerdness). Here goes:
You're in Hell, and all you know is that at some future date (call it Aleph-Null Day), if you have enough money, you can buy your way out. The Devil gives you two choices. One: He arrives every day , adds ten $1 bills to the top of your stack of money, and removes three bills from the bottom. Two: he arrives every day, adds ten $1 bills to the top of your stack, then removes 6 bills from the top of the stack. Which option leaves you with more money on Aleph-Null Day?

My first impression of this puzzle was that in any case, we get two divergent series for the number of bills added and removed, so it makes no sense to try to subtract them. And I also didn't see how there could be a conceptual difference between removing bills from the bottom or from the top of the stack. But then it was pointed out that in scenario 1, every bill put on the stack will be removed at some later date, while in scenario 2, every day four bills are added that will never be removed. So that's neat, but I'd like to know how (or if) this can be formalised, since to me there is no convergence here and so we cannot meaningfully talk about what the stacks will look like after an infinite time span. And in any case:
nerdsniped wrote:But the joke, for once, is on the devil! There can never be an "Aleph-Null Day"; the concept is flawed. Consider this: when I awaken on Aleph-Null Day, what did I have for dinner the night before? And which bills did I receive that previous morning? There cannot have been a night before, or a previous morning, because whatever the previous day was, it would be followed by another finite day. Aleph-Null Day never arrives, and so... I remain in Hell forever. Hmm.

If I need an infinite amount of money to be allowed to leave hell, then I have no choice but to wait an infinite amount of time to obtain it, and I therefore will stay in hell forever. So there really is no practical solution. (And I'm not sure I'd call this the joke being on the devil... :twisted:)

The point, I guess, is that while mathematics are quite useful to model reality, when we get to concepts such as infinity, our models have no choice but to break down.

Other math:
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Tom17 wrote:I think that's how this started wasn't it? I can't speak for pi or e, but I think the theory goes that for an infinitely long random sequence, it never has to produce every pattern. However statistically likely (very) it is to produce a given pattern, there is no guarantee that it will actually be produced. Is this right?

Actually, no. If it is random and infinite, then anything that can happen will happen. But a huge sequence with no sevens will also appear of course, say ten billion digits without sevens. It would take a bias away from randomness for no sevens to appear at all. Same for any given finite sequence you could name.

It'd be more precise to say that applying a random process with uniform distribution infinitely many times yields a sequence in which any finite subsequence will occur almost surely, that is, with probability 1. If I flip a coin infinitely many times, I could only get tails. The probability of this happening is 0, but it is a valid result. And in any case, any sequence I obtain would have had an a priori 0 probability of occurrence.

charlie_grumbles wrote:Well, infinity (aleph-null) is a number, but one of a different kind. To answer the earlier question, it depends on what you mean by "minus". It is possible to take an infinite set (the natural numbers), remove an infinite subset (the even numbers) and be left with an infinite set.

Aleph-null is a cardinality (the "amount" of elements in a set, that is) but I wouldn't call it a number. (Then again, it depends on how we decide to define "number".) It's not something we can do arithmetic with. This said, infinity as a symbol can sometimes be used in arithmetic operations, but that's a different concept from aleph-null.

Now I guess I'll go see if my points have already been made a few posts later in the thread. :mrgreen:

In the OTC Cuegan have been brought by the Beanies to their castle, and are about to meet their leader (currently known in the OTT as "Beardo" as well as a few other names). Timewaiters are hard at work trying to decipher the Beanish language (and doing what to me seems a very good job of it, showing how prefixes can be attached to words such as "water" to form "sea" and extrapolating to other concepts). There's been discussion of castles and how they are an almost mythical concept to many of us, especially those of us who didn't grow up in places where they are commonly found, just as they are to Cuegan. It was suggested to create a video of Time using the voices of Timewaiters for the different characters. I can't wait to see where we are with this project now.

I'll go back to journeying. See you all in the future!

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Time Randomly Revisited - np2705

Postby mscha » Tue Jan 06, 2015 12:00 am UTC

SEWERONGS...
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OTT Time Travel

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HES » Tue Jan 06, 2015 12:05 am UTC

Why did the chicken blitz the thread?

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby SBN » Tue Jan 06, 2015 1:51 am UTC

Migratory Chicken wrote:It was suggested to create a video of Time using the voices of Timewaiters for the different characters. I can't wait to see where we are with this project now.

I can't wait either!

Still no internet access at my new castle. My wolpies might be making the trip later this week, but Smallest Wolpy is having trouble walking. One vet visit this morning got her some pain meds, and she's scheduled for another visit. It might just be that she overdid something, in which case, time and rest should help. But she does have a really bad case of old. In any case, it might not be the best time for a long car trip.
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