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Runaways, and other comics

Postby Jesse » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:38 pm UTC

Okay, so we got told off for discussing Runaways etc. so here is our thread for it.

I'm going to take a look at it on Saturday. Anyone interested in Marvel stuff I suggest you read Marvels by Kurt BUsiek and Alex Ross, it being one of the best graphic novels of recent years.

Also, the Sandman series by Neil Gaiman is incredible and probably appreciated a lot more by the more educated intelligent types that we generally are.

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Postby Oort » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:40 pm UTC

I think Runaways is really good. It's about to change writers to Joss Whedon, so hopefully it will keep its good writing.

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Postby Jesse » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:41 pm UTC

Joss Whedon can write amazing things even when he's writing them five at one time. Witness the simultaneous writing of 'Buffy', 'Firefly' and 'Fray'.

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Postby Oort » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:46 pm UTC

And Astonishing X-Men too, right?

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Postby Jesse » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:50 pm UTC

Was he writing that simultaneously, I mentioned those three as an example of things he was writing at the same time.

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Postby Belial » Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:12 am UTC

If he was still writing buffy, he was still writing angel, too....

Also, without realizing this was here, I already split the runaways discussion from the photo thread.
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Postby Belial » Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:15 am UTC

To answer someone's question from the other thread, ie "So are they good to spite their parents"?

Yeah. Kindof. I imagine they'd like to think their reasons are more noble than that.

Also, it's not like they were raised *knowing* their parents were supervillains. The impetus for their runaway was the discovery of that little fact.

Also: Psychic Raptors.

From the gorram FUTURE.
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Postby Teaspoon » Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:51 am UTC

Belial! With your use of rare phrases that I commonly use, such as "gorram" and "I am human. Just look at my neck", I'm beginning to wonder if you are, in fact, me.

Well? Are you? Did I come back from the future to protect XKCD, who is destined to be the anti-raptor equivalent to John Connor? If that's the case, it doesn't seem strange at all that I would behave in a manner that arouses suspicion of raptorness from others. My years of infiltration work clearly made it a habit to seem raptorish enough that the raptors would assume I was one of their own human-disguised spies returning with a report instead of gutting me before I even knew they were there.

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Postby Belial » Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:57 am UTC

Yes! That's exactly it! I'm you! From the FUTURE! That explains my suspicious behaviour perfectly!

How is it hanging, mammalian past-self? How's the scale-less skin and body-hair working out for you? Going great for me!

But anyway, back on topic....

If you're looking for runaways collections, keep in mind they're generally not collected in standard book-sized collections like most graphic novels. Marvel is doing this wierd "manga-shaped" thing with their comics, lately, so they'll be roughly pocketsized and probably shelved differently in the bookstore.

Despite the silly amerime-influenced packaging, the art-style refrains from just ruthlessly bending over to anime, and manages to be its own thing. I like it a lot.
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Postby SpitValve » Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:33 am UTC

Runaways is fully good. To be honest I think it's the only good modern superhero team comic I've read. (1970s-80s x-men are good too tho)

I don't see how they managed to have a girl who gets magic powers by cutting herself without getting sued...

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Postby Lani » Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:32 pm UTC

SpitValve wrote:I don't see how they managed to have a girl who gets magic powers by cutting herself without getting sued...


She cuts herself to get her powers?? Sweet jeebus, please tell me that's not so!
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Postby Belial » Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:49 pm UTC

Specifically, she has a rather powerful magical staff that takes residence in her body, and she can only get it to emerge when her blood is shed. They made the teenage cutting joke at one point, it made me giggle.

"Nico, it's okay, I understand...my last girlfriend was a cutter, she made me read this book, so I understand about having so much anger you can't express and having to turn it inward to-"

"I do it to release the powerful magical artifact lodged in my soul."

".....Oh."

So far (and I'm only two books in), there's only been one occasion where she's really inflicted it on herself. In other situations, there was someone else there who had conveniently already injured her.
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Postby Arilakon » Fri Feb 09, 2007 10:04 am UTC

I've found it interesting so far, and I don't like any other Superhero comics. Haven't read any for a while, so I should probably catch up. The only other actual comic I read is Y - The Last Man. which I love!

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Postby German Sausage » Fri Feb 09, 2007 11:10 am UTC

has anyone read the martha washington series? i think alan moore has something to do with them...the surgeon general is terrific, and the maccas tanks :shock: blew my mind
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Postby Belial » Fri Feb 09, 2007 7:49 pm UTC

I've found it interesting so far, and I don't like any other Superhero comics. Haven't read any for a while, so I should probably catch up. The only other actual comic I read is Y - The Last Man. which I love!


There are a lot of really good comics out there that aren't traditional "superhero" comics.

Ranging from comics about superheroes that don't act like traditional superheroes ("The Authority" and "Rising Stars" spring readily to mind), to comics about other subjects entirely (Sandman, Books of Magic, Lucifer, just about anything else by Vertigo).

That said, I haven't read any of Y. What's it about?
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Postby Arilakon » Fri Feb 09, 2007 11:58 pm UTC

Belial wrote:That said, I haven't read any of Y. What's it about?


Basically, all but a few men instantly die out all across the planet, throwing the world into chaos. The antagonist Yorick was talking on the phone to his girlfriend in Australia when this happened, and the connection died just as he was proposing to her. So he decides to start looking for her.

Which of course, won't be easy.

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Postby Belial » Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:26 am UTC

Hmm. Cool.

By "all but a few men" do you mean "all but a few males" or "all but a few humans"?
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Postby German Sausage » Sat Feb 10, 2007 1:42 am UTC

males. hence it being called y (chromosome)
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Postby Belial » Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:18 am UTC

Cool. I knew the author had to be pretty cool, because she's going to comiccon as a "special guest" this year. I should probably pick some of that up.
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Postby Narsil » Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:42 am UTC

I've only read 1-18, my freaking school didn't have vol. 2. Damn them. They also have a poster in the library for Neil Gaiman's Sandman, but conveniently no books to go along with it. I'm just flat out pissed.

It's all about the manga in my library. I'm sick of manga.
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Postby Belial » Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:26 am UTC

No Sandman? That's inhumane.

I heartily recommend the everloving hell out of sandman. If you can't check it out of the library, buy it. It's worth it.
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Postby Belial » Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:04 am UTC

Bumped.

Jessseeeeeee, make them release Runaways twenty-eeeeiiiiiggggghhhhttt ::whine::
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Postby Jesse » Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:13 am UTC

Belial wrote:Bumped.

Jessseeeeeee, make them release Runaways twenty-eeeeiiiiiggggghhhhttt ::whine::


Oh gods yes. I mean, it's not like I don't have the entire Lucifer, Books of Magic and Death (TOYL + HCOL) to read, but I wants Runaways.

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Postby SecondTalon » Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:29 pm UTC

Belial wrote:Hmm. Cool.

By "all but a few men" do you mean "all but a few males" or "all but a few humans"?


Specifically, Our Hero, his Monkey, and two guys in Space.

I have no problem mentioning Spaceguys, as though they aren't revealed until .. I dunno..somewhere in the teens.. the series itself is pushing 60, so.. no longer a spoiler.

Also, Girls...while making me feel like a pervert for reading a book full of naked women, it's still a surprisingly good book. It's like Zombies, only they're naked chicks... sorta.

I swear, it's better than I'm making it sound.

And Walking Dead is made of Win and Hotsauce.
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Postby Belial » Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:58 pm UTC

Jesster wrote:
Belial wrote:Bumped.

Jessseeeeeee, make them release Runaways twenty-eeeeiiiiiggggghhhhttt ::whine::


Oh gods yes. I mean, it's not like I don't have the entire Lucifer, Books of Magic and Death (TOYL + HCOL) to read, but I wants Runaways.


I've already read all of those things. I bore.

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Postby SecondTalon » Tue Aug 14, 2007 2:21 pm UTC

Invincible?
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Postby Belial » Tue Aug 14, 2007 2:41 pm UTC

Actually, I need to get on this "Y" business.

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Postby SecondTalon » Tue Aug 14, 2007 2:57 pm UTC

Yeah, you probably should. Yorick's a good everyman Houdini wannabe.
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Postby Oort » Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:51 pm UTC

Belial wrote:Cool. I knew the author had to be pretty cool, because she's going to comiccon as a "special guest" this year. I should probably pick some of that up.


The author is a man, not a she (Brian K. Vaughan). And I strongly recommend him. In fact, he wrote most of Runaways.

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Postby Zohar » Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:04 pm UTC

Regarding Y, there's also Israeli people there! And they speak Hebrew for a few pages! But "Alter" is in no way a name in Hebrew. I wish he'd have found a real name ("Tse'elon is an appropriate last name, though).
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Postby Belial » Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:10 pm UTC

Oort wrote:
Belial wrote:Cool. I knew the author had to be pretty cool, because she's going to comiccon as a "special guest" this year. I should probably pick some of that up.


The author is a man, not a she (Brian K. Vaughan). And I strongly recommend him. In fact, he wrote most of Runaways.


Hmm. Why did I think it was written by a female? Strange.
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Postby SecondTalon » Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:14 pm UTC

Belial wrote:
Oort wrote:
Belial wrote:Cool. I knew the author had to be pretty cool, because she's going to comiccon as a "special guest" this year. I should probably pick some of that up.


The author is a man, not a she (Brian K. Vaughan). And I strongly recommend him. In fact, he wrote most of Runaways.


Hmm. Why did I think it was written by a female? Strange.


Wikipedia wrote:The series' art is handled primarily by series co-creator Pia Guerra. Much has been made of the fact that Guerra is a woman, but Vaughan insists that her sex is incidental.[citation needed] He says that Guerra's work simply fit best with what he had in mind for the series.
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Postby Rodan » Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:17 pm UTC

Jesster wrote:
Belial wrote:Bumped.

Jessseeeeeee, make them release Runaways twenty-eeeeiiiiiggggghhhhttt ::whine::


Oh gods yes. I mean, it's not like I don't have the entire Lucifer, Books of Magic and Death (TOYL + HCOL) to read, but I wants Runaways.

that's the price you pay for more Joss Whedon awesomeness...


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