## 1190: "Time"

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### Re: 1190: "Time"

mrob27 wrote:
Febrion wrote:cool whipIs there a guide1070 for small, poorly defined, units of time?

There's this but it's nothing particularly new, since time was the first type of measurement we came up with an OTTish unit for. I just picked the most popular of several, and you could invent even more…

mrob27 wrote:1 mnp (millinewpix) = 3.6 s

^ This is the only one I remember reliably ("minip"). I need to practice my OTTish measurements!

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or make up new ones!
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### Re: 1190: "Time"

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### O MRORL, MRORL! WHEREFORE ART THOU MRORL?

The Mrorl's OTTronic Bard story has just finished; here it is in full and with formatting. (Also, I'll start using Spoiler:s like @ucim does, out of respect for anyone trying to scroll up and down):

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The First Journey (A)
- or -
Mrorl's OTTronic Bard

First of all, to ensure all possible REDUNDANcy, we should state that this was, strictly speaking, a Journey to nowhere and nowhen. In fact, Mrorl never left his house throughout it — except for a few trips to hospital and a brief excursion to some unimportant asteroid1. Yet in a molpier and/or wingghishier sense, this was one of the farthest Journeys ever attempted by the fabled bOTTifactor, for it very nearly took him beyond the limits of artistic imagination.

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Mrorl had once built an enormous Cognitative Engine that was capable of only one operation, viz. the naming of creatures given a picture thereof, and that it did most OTTishly. As was told earlier in these chronicles, that machine also proved to be extremely stubborn, and more than a little bit aggressive; the quarrel (and high-speed chase) that ensued almost cost its creator his life… not to mention what it may have done to the berm. From that time Balthacarius teased Mrorl incessantly, and pelted him occasionally, until Mrorl decided to silence him once and for all by building a bot that could write poetry. First Mrorl collected eight hundred and twenty megabytes of source code and documentation on cybernOTTics, and twenty-three hundred Newpages of the One True Thread (including at least twelve thousand lines of the finest poetry), then sat down and Blitzed it all. Whenever he felt like he couldn't take another Newpage of puns or rot13'd OTTified Broadway lyrics, he would switch over to banging on the code, and vice versa. After a while it became clear to him that the construction of the Bot itself was child's play in comparison to the writing of the software that was to bring it to life. The "poetic programming" found in the mind of the average OTTer, after all, was "written" by the OTTer's civilisation and culture, which was of course the OTT — and that was in turn "programmed" by the formative dips of the Fading and the Madness, which in turn was born out of the early dips of the ShortPix, which in turn came from the proto-Randallian culture of the OtherComics Before Time, and so on to the elder dips of ARPANET, when the 1's and 0's that were to make up the OTT-to-be were still being formed in the primordial chaos of the Great Numerical Sea, Which Is Big, Really Big. Hence in order to program a poetry bot, one would first have to Blitz the entire Universe from the beginning — or at least, Blitz the OTT.
Anyone else in Mrorl's place would have given up then and there, but our intrepid bOTTifactor was nothing daunted. He built a great Botcastle, and created within it a digital model of the Numerical Sea, and a True Author to draw upon the blank page of the Primordial Frames, and he introduced the parameter of ONGs, a bit of CSS and JavaScript, and by degrees worked his way up to the (first) Dark Period. Mrorl could move at this rate because his Botcastle was able, in one septillionth of a nopix, to simulate thirty-three trillion slow fadings of eighty octillion different pixels simultaneously. And if anymolpy doubts these numbers, let xem work it out for xemselves.
Next Mrorl began to model OTTification, the enhancement of molpies, cheap gags with bags, odes of dilgunnerangs and serenades to flutterbees and wowterfalls. To accelerate this effort and ensure conclusion within his own lifetime he created many simulated Worlds of Time, each to be observed by a developing culture of simulated OTTers. Within his many simulated worlds, Cuegans (and Megballs, and the occasional la Petite) ventured up simulated slopes, pondered pixelated porcupines, gave grapes to mesh-modelled molpies, and generally discovered what the first part of understanding everything looks like. There were frequent simulated mishaps (in the most common, Cueball would fall off the wowterfall cliff rather than merely dropping something into the river; in another the OTTers would everywhere use the word grapevine in place of molpy and vice-versa), and Mrorl would have to restart a simulation, moving a stone here or a shrub there to ensure a different result, or run his simulations in greater detail. To accommodate this, Mrorl kept adding auxiliary processing units to his Botcastle, and eventually entire additional botcastles; and even a few casbottles (which were similar to botcastles, but specially designed to contain simulations involving semencoffeecancerbabies or other liquids).
Soon he had a seaish metropolis: rack upon rack of equipment billowing heat and festooned with blinking lights; cluttered with input consoles, display terminals, ventilation ducts and fans, and printers (both paper and 2.5-D) to produce a permanent record of results in case the entire thing caught fire, or became sentient and demanded coffee and biscuits — at which point Mrorl would reluctantly but firmly pull the plug, wipe everything and start over with a fresh simulation matrix and a different set of parametrised equations. This he needed to do only twice. Otherwise everything went quite molpishly, and the OTTish cultures within his botcastles proceeded through their chaotic beginnings, the formation of religions and the trial of the Reckoning, into the age of specialisation and diversification, a nap beneath the stars, Rosetta's audience-chamber at ᘝᓄᘈᖉᐣ, and the anticipated trauma and inevitible shock of T** **d — which always gave the machine a few nasty jolts (Mrorl made sure to wear rubber-soled shoes and always hold one hand behind his back when turning dials) — and into the glorious RenOTTissance in which a simulated community of TimeWaiters would undertake to OTTify All The Things in their entire world.
The inhabitants of each virtual OTTiverse developed their own cultural norms, habits, and Ways to Time. Some of these Mrorl found to be almost universal, such that each simulated OTT would invariably hit upon them, regardless of other differences such as level of tolerance of puns, or preference for or against wearing hats. A few of these Mrorl codified as his Three Laws of OTTics2, for use in future botbuilding projects.
Newpage after Newpage of simulated OTT culture generated mountains of output; soon Mrorl needed a new warehouse just to store these. All to construct an OTTronic Bard! — but such are the Ways of Science. Eventually enough culture had been created that Mrorl could select and combine the best masterworks from each run, curating a large body of literature with which to educate the OTTificial intelligence that would become the Bard itself.
Mrorl spent the better part of two wips building the great brain, combining the more passionate (but less destructive) aspects of each of his earlier Machines and Bots, with more emotive elements and semantic circuits in the spots that seemed best. He was about to invite Balthacarius to attend a trial run, then thought better of it and switched on the machine for some private tests. It immediately began to deliver a dissertaion on The Origin and Perpetuation of Neo-Sociological Distributed Collaborative Creative Consortia3. Mrorl bypassed some of the logical circuits, and turned up the gain on the emotive whim-generators; the machine sulked and repeated a short epigram on e**ishness in a steadily falling monotone until Mrorl sympathetically switched it off. Mrorl augmented its semantic modules and re-installed a major confidence unit (that he had for a while blamed for Cueball's cliff-diving tendencies); the Botcastle then informed him that he — Mrorl — had been created to fulfill its every wish, and that Mrorl was hereby ordered to begin adding another twenty floors to the Botcastle's existing seven, so it could better formulate the meaning of Existence, Spaaace and Time, and enjoy a better view across the valley. Mrorl installed philosophical rate-limiters instead, and the Botcastle basemented. Only after a dip of pleading, PMing and public posts was he able to get it to recite something: "I saw a little ribbit." That appeared to exhaust its repertoire.
Mrorl adjusted, recalibrated, cross-connected, pivoted, inverted, transposed, renormalised, did everything he could think of — and the machine presented him with a "poem" that made him thank the GLR that Balthacarius was not there to laugh — imagine simulating an entire epic journey, many Times over, in exquisite detail, not to mention an entire OTTiverse for each, containing OTTers to observe the Frames and comment thereon, only to end up with such a dreadful mess, almost more palatable when rot13'd. Mrorl attached seven entropy filters, but they melted; he refabricated them out of pure corundum. This seemed to work; he turned the semanticity up to eleven, appended an alternating-rhyme generator — which ruined everything, as the machine resolved to start a band and tour the third galactic arm playing acid-metal nursery rhymes to any planet still lacking an organised Kindergarten system. But at the very last minip, just as he was nearly about to give up and take a pry-bar to the whole thing, Mrorl had a sudden inspiration; tossing out all remaining logic units, he replaced them with self-centred (but also self-regulating) solipsistic semantic synchronisers. The machine wimpered a bit, then simpered, looked out across the valley, winked and blinked, then laughed and remarked at how OTTish everything had been seeming lately, then politely but firmly asked for pen and paper. Relieved, Mrorl sighed, hurriedly tucked the pry-bar away in a tools-cabinet, switched the machine off and went upstairs for a well-deserved nip's coma. Next morning he strolled across the valley to see Balthacarius. As soon as he was told that he was invited to witness the debut performance of Mrorl's newly constructed OTTronic Bard, Balthacarius dropped what he had been doing and quickly followed Mrorl back, so eager was he to witness Mrorl's humiliation.
Mrorl let the machine warm up first, with the power on low; ran up some stairs to check the dials on level three, then to a higher balcony to check the readings on a screen; then once he was confident everything was as expected he shouted down to Balthacarius and invited him to start with a simple request. Later, of course, when the machine was fully warmed up Balthacarius could ask it to produce verses on whichever topic and in whatever style he liked.
Now the main display indicated the machine's allegorical buffers were pre-loaded, and alliterative dynamos pre-charged, so Mrorl, nervously, switched the main lever over to full. A voice, trembling a bit but with clear diction, said:

Etteleettap. Iqueaxvan. Zoorth.

Balthacarius paused, glanced at a nearby screen, then up at Mrorl and politely asked, "Is that it?" Mrorl only shrugged, pulled a couple levers and punched a large button, then Balthacarius tried again. This time the voice was a bit higher, a melodic baritone, which intoned:

Dimepa biimika likirge ake ga,
Lakirginshurguu dasakiim legu—
Migishaaka urli, shikakaga sha:
Imkur enum anki, ungi akikarsu!

"Am I missing something?" asked Balthacarius, as Mrorl began to sweat and struggled at the controls.
Finally Mrorl shouted out almost as if in surprise, clambered up yet another set of metal stairs, threw open a small access panel and crawled inside, vanishing from Balthacarius' sight. Clanking noises echoed inside, and occasionally lights flashed and the humming of the machine's lyrical oscillators became a thrumming, then a soft thumping, then stopped entirely before resuming at a comfortably moderate tone. Mrorl popped back out of the little door and slid down a firepole to a bank of relays, which he pushed aside to reveal row upon row of valves, all but one aglow. This he yanked triumphantly and tossed to a startled Balthacarius, as Mrorl installed a new tube. Returning to the first console with the main lever still on full, Mrorl shouted to his friend encouraging him to try it again. Balthacarius requested a verse and the Bard spoke:

I like cats in drizz'ling nyan,
Nyan, nyan, Newpixbot.
Keeping Legos, bagless Zooman,
Flying molpy-snakes cannot!

"Well, that's an improvement!" shouted Mrorl, not entirely convinced. "The last line particularly, did you notice?"
"If this is all you have to show me…" said Balthacarius, the embodiment of politeness, eyeing the door.
"Ch*rp!" said Mrorl and again disappeared inside the machine. After more banging and clanging, the acrid smell of shorted-out wires and the acrid tone of an even shorter temper, Mrorl popped his head out of the little door up on level five and yelled, "Now try it!"
Balthacarius complied. The OTTronic Bard shuddered, shaking the building and the ground and nearby trees, upsetting a few nearby chirpies, and began to Orate:

And now as well, except not, I thought ahead, RELATED.
Jump through orbital waterottermolpies and Flash,
Arrow, but the Bot, I had taken, floated, to coma mustard—

Mrorl yanked out a few cables in a furious frenzy, the thrumming resumed briefly, then the machine fell silent. Balthacarius could no longer suppress his laughter and burst out, then had to sit on the floor. Then suddenly, as Mrorl was rushing from panel to panel full of lights and dials, there was a loud clack and the machine, with perfect eloquence said:

The Molpish and the Free,
Are OTTified with glee
By verse of such a seaish quality.
Our Balthacarius
Shall ne'er repeat his fuss
When Mrorl's machine, redeemed, incanteth thus.

"There you are, an epigram! And it couldn't be more RELATED!" laughed Mrorl, sliding back down the firepole and the front ladder to stand proudly in front of Balthacarius, reaching out an eager hand to lift the bOTTifactor (who was still on the floor from his now-arrested laughter) back to his feet.
"What, that?" Balthacarius said, brushing himself off. "That's nothing. I imagine you had that one set up beforehand."
"Set up?!?"
"Oh yes, quite obvious… the poorly disguised hubris of the verse, of such meager inspiration, so clumsy in execution."
Mrorl scowled. "All right, then ask it for something else! Whatever you like!" Mrorl paused. "What are you waiting for? Afraid?!"
"Just a minip," said Balthacarius, annoyed. He was trying to think of a request as difficult as possible, aware that any argument on the quality of verse the machine might produce would be hard if not impossible to settle. Then his face lit up and he spoke to the machine:
"Give me a poem about little molpies doing what they do best, on a cool April evening — whimsical but seated in reality — but vivid and abstract — and with every word starting with the letter S!"
"And why not include a full explanation of the theory of bOTTronic engineering whilst you're at it?" growled Mrorl. "You can't ask for such Furious Doodling—"
But Mrorl didn't finish. The Bard's melodious voice filled the room:

Sneaky squirpies softly schizoblitz
Surrealist starlit springtime's silentONGs,
Suddenly stealing somemolpy's sandwich
Simultaneously shamelessly sustainibilising Stratplayer's sleep.

"Well, what do you think of that?" asked Mrorl, proudly. But Balthacarius was already beginning his next request:
"Now all in D! A sonnet, in seven double-dactyls, about an OTTer and xer secret molpy companions, who make the 37th post of every Newpage with XKClouD submissions that subvert the status quo, impeaching the Captain of Taddragnar Hill and replacing the Procuratorial Senate with quackmolpy bakers, but only those seated in prime-numbered rows…"

Dunejumpish Dracomax
Dithering, doodle-ing,
Doublepengoatimate
Dragonfly dreams

Diagrammatical
Drawings deservedly
Drawing derision, daft
Despot—

"STOP!" shouted Mrorl, leaping to the nearest console and pulling an emergency lever, then turning to defend the machine with his body — an absurd sight, as the Bard was easily one thousand times Mrorl's size.
"Enough!" Mrorl exclaimed, hoarsely. "How dare you waste this great talent on such steambottlish m*stard? Either pose admirable, treeish subjects for it to render into verse, or you may show yourself out the door!"
"What, those aren't treeish Timeodies?" protested Balthacarius.
"Certainly not! I didn't build a machine to construct ridiculous acrostics! Any babbling bot with a randomised sequence generator can do that! Just give it a topic, any topic, as difficult as you like… but spare us the absurd constraints on vocabulary or plot specifics!"
Balthacarius asked for a chair, then sat and thought. Finally he smiled, nodded to Mrorl (who hesitantly switched the Bard back on, and nodded in return when it had warmed up a bit), and said:
"Very well. Write me an Odeity, a Timeless poem of Time: an ottpoem of Cueganshipping, Sarcasm, Geology, and Language. With feeling, and a bittersweet e**, if need be, but in the true OTTish spirit."
"Cueganshipping and Geology? Have you finally given over to the Green Safety Hats?" Mrorl began, but stopped, for his OTTronic Bard was already declaiming:

Cue, let us journey to a higher plain,
Where Lucky prowls the grapey fields of vine,
Whilst crumbling castles fall to rising brine,
Tho by what cause? We're wont to ascertain.

Tho rivers' oft retreats are commonplace
We wonder what odd law the sea obeys
It's held no level higher than today's
Could lands (unseen) its wat'ry mass displace?

Ascend an ever-treeisher unknown
(Its squirpies, prickle-molps and flutterbees
Bepuzz'ling us by ever-high degrees)
To darkened chambers and Rosetta's throne.

This little flag could grace a small rampart
And may perhaps betray my deepest love
Sincerity and confidence to prove
Its beauteous red reflects my beating heart

Whate'er befell the people of the hills
Unknown suppliers of matériel
While rafting through on river's uphill swell
We recollect their warlike throwing skills

We've floated up, (no lands we know remain)
To unknown heights, whilst constellations glowed
The rising flood that bore us, finally slowed
To leave us here on treeish, lush terrain.

We wander up a cai'rn-topped incline
To see what chirpies, molps, or trees we'll find
When, far downhill, we ascertain, enshrined
There lies a cave! —but— omen? or benign?

Inquiring, clamb'ring swift, to bluetree high
On massive tilted slabs, we wonder why
A Beanie'd wish, in eerie dark, to lie —
Perchance to ponder, bravely sketch, then die?

This concluded the poetic competition, since Balthacarius suddenly had to leave, saying he would return with more topics for the machine to versify; but he never did, afraid that in so doing, he might give Mrorl more cause to boast. Mrorl of course let it be known that Balthacarius had fled in order to hide his envy and chagrin. Balthacarius meanwhile spread the word that Mrorl had more than one or two loose rivets when it came to the matter of his so-called OTTronic Bard.
The Bard quickly grew so adept at this that it could silence a first-class rhapsodist with no more than one or two stanzas (or twenty to thirty syllables, for the avant-gardes), but the third-rate poets walked away unimpressed, as they could not distinguish the treeish from the m*stardy, so had no comprehension of their own crushing defeat. The only one to suffer any harm only happened to trip and break her leg on an epic the machine had just completed, beginning with the words:

ONGs, and Timeframes I sing, that I Await,
Whilst fellow OTTers ever speculate,
Betwixt their posts detailing ev'ry semenated shore…

The true poets, meanwhile, were being decimated by Mrorl's creation, though it never laid a finger on them nor emitted a nanowatt of lethal radiation. The newly-formed Eligiastic Union, organised to lobby the Senate, fell apart even before its first hearing before that body, as one after another of its leaders died of a broken will, or threw themselves into a gorge in despair. Curiously, each had received a personalised couplet the previous evening.
Many other poets began a grass-roots movement, and staged protests demanding that the machine be arrested, and its versification circuits confiscated, but nobody else seemed to care. Magazines and blogs generally approved: Mrorl's bard, writing under whatever pseudonym was desired, could always provide verse of the length, topic, and style required, and of such high quality that readers would push each other out of the way to see. Photostreams were filled with enraptured faces, bemused smiles, and tears of joy: MRW I read MrorlBard's latest. The machine signed with an agency, and soon was advertised on billboards with the catchy tagline: Mrorl's Marvelous Rhyming Robot, OTTifying Orator, and "bOTTronic" Bard. / MMRROObB?? REDUNDANT, yes? But of course! / All others are REDUNDANTer, settle for no less. Everyone knew its rhymes, and they were sung, for of course the Bard had been commissioned at one time or another to write new lyrics for every popular tune. It became commonplace for citizens of the Dominion to faint wherever they happened to be standing, upon hearing some new verse, but the Bard learned of this and was soon appending restorative rondeaux to the end of each new work.
Mrorl himself had no end of trouble from the enemies of his invention. The classicists were usually content to throw stones through his windows and m*stard on the outer walls of his compound, which he unfortunately needed to fortify. Bots patrolled the perimeter to interview any would-be visitors before firmly turning them away; within the walls a second patrol was ready to neutralise any that somehow failed to understand the refusals of the outer patrol. Any poets seriously standing to challenge the machine's championship title could still do so, but only via telelink from a neighbouring building. Some attempted to neutralise the machine by travelling back in Time and forestalling its creation, but Mrorl had anticipated this and surrounded his workshops on all eight sides (North, South, East, West, Above, Below, Future, and Past), with temporochronic stabilising shields. Mrorl himself, sheltered within this fortress of Spaaace-Time, was still being called to appear in royal courts, and on chat shows broadcast across ever greater distances, as word of his creation spread; he made these appearances by holographic transmission. On a trip out to his garden-shed Mrorl met an ambush and was beaten. As he lay in hospital to recover, picket lines formed around all exits, and he could hear occasional explosions in the distance (visiting poets were now arming themselves not with cantos, but with cannons). Upon his return from the hospital Mrorl finally decided to dismantle the 'lectronic lyricist so he could resume a normal life.
But the machine saw Mrorl approaching, limping slightly with a pry-bar in one hand, cable-cutters in the other, and delivered such an eloquent plea for mercy that Mrorl burst into tears, dropped his tools of demolition, and ran down the hall, which was now filled with manuscripts, overflow from the Machine's main room which had long been filled.
The next mip when he got the utility bill for the electricity used in his workshop, Mrorl almost fell out of his chair. He consulted Balthacarius for advice, and the latter reminded Mrorl of how he had defeated the copy of himself made by the Bot to Grant One's Every Wish. Mrorl sneaked out to the generators and shut down the power to the temporochronic stabilisers, then to the Bard itself, which he promptly dismantled. Loading it carefully onto a ship, along with a legion of utilitybots, Mrorl flew to a convenient asteroid, and in what is now widely recognised as the greatest all-nighter in history, built an exact replica of the entire valley, with all its major features and natural landmarks, roads and buildings, with Mrorl's own home and workshops in the proper place, and reassembled the OTTronic Bard within. Mrorl set a timer to restart the Bard's power after a suitable delay, placed artificial stars where needed to delay the Bard's noticing it had moved, then hastily escaped.
The machine, now deprived of a steady stream of visitors and its online audience, began to broadcast its masterpieces on all frequencies, and was soon enrapturing the occupants of any and all passing spaceships. This unfortunately caused navigation errors and accidents. Having determined the cause of the problem, the Interspaaace Astronautic Administration subpoenaed Mrorl to testify and demanded that he immediately terminate the device. But Mrorl did not appear, as he had gone into hiding. The IAA sent a team of technicians to disable the machine's broadcasting stations, but they were overwhelmed by a few beautiful ballads. Next a team of military robots were sent, whose receivers had been removed as a precaution, but this meant that the troop was unable to coördinate its own actions, so the mission failed. A plan was then made to demolish the entire asteroid in a single shot, or steer it into the Sun, but just then a very wealthy king from a distant part of the galaxy arrived in a huge convoy, bought the entire thing (asteroid, replica valley, Bard and all), and hauled the whole lot off to his own kingdom.
Now Mrorl could once again appear in public, and his poetic woes were mostly behind him. Though soon he began to see supernovae on the southern horizon, and traveller's tales implied that this was somehow to do with poetry. A space trader arrived with the story that the same king had ordered the construction of an array of supergiant stars, with which to display each line of verse as it was written, encoded in binary via red and green colour, and thus the Bard was able to transmit its creations throughout most of the known Universe. But even if there were any truth to this, Mrorl chose to ignore it, and simply vowed never again to mechanically model the Muse.

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Footnotes
1. Either 1190 Pelagia or 4942 Munroe… or maybe 2578 Saint-Exupéry. We're not really sure. We said it was unimportant.
2. You will find Mrorl's Three Laws of OTTics (as well as his 0th Law) in written form at OTT:1990:26.
3. Preprint here; submitted to The Journal of OTTics and Molpology; publication forthcoming.

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BlitzGirl wrote:
balthasar_s wrote:I plan to write some posts about BFTF.
Wait for it.

HurrAAAAAAAAAAAAAy!

And I can start today because why not?

Did you notice...

So, you (in this case, that's me) are drawing some bftframes. And you need some fading, what will you do?
What did GLR do?
In the fading of Time, the colors of every next frame were closer to one color (white).
Let's do this!

But I only have 4 colors! (or 8 or 16)
I can't do the fading with only these.

The limited color palette doesn't allow fading.
So, why not apply the fading to the palette?

Yes, it works!
And even if the whole frame is in one color it can still be enhanced.
because in reality, that's 4 different identical colors.

So, how to enhance?
Just make the colors different again.
But the colors are the same, how do I know which 4 colors should be there?
Just take the colors from the frame before the fading.

Sustainabilizer, ggh, mrob27, and maybe others found out how to enhance.

But maybe the fading can be done in a different, more interesting way?
It can.
You can do some other tricks to the colormap.
Like this:

This works too and is still enhancable.
And the colormap became a little redundant and it allows me to do some other things.

...

Wait for it.

Redundant
Spoiler:
BSTA
Good luck, my blitzing friends!
BTTBAA:1023 # Mustard? Use the mirror! Blitzing? Also use the mirror! And here's why. # OTT facebug copy
that's a robot so it doesn't count
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### Re: O MRORL, MRORL! WHEREFORE ART THOU MRORL?

mrob27 wrote:The Mrorl's OTTronic Bard story has just finished;

You can download that file and stick it in your E reader. Dunno about others but if you have a Kobo you can simply attach the Kobo to your PC or laptop, open it as an USB stick and stick the file in the folder "books".
Thanks to Sustainabilizer for the golden tip as to the formatting. That's one of the perks of having a professor in computery things.

For those who wish to know how to do such things:
Spoiler:
1. Open web page with the text,
2. View source (Press ctrl-U in Chrome and Firefox)
3. Scroll down to the correct text. It should be a big block. Copy it.
4. Open Notepad or whatever you prefer.
5. Paste the text
6. Insert the following text in front of it:

Code: Select all

<html><head><head><title>BOTTeradia</title></head><body>
7. Insert the following text behind it:

Code: Select all

</body></html>
8. Save as BOTTeradia.html (or whatever, just leave the ".html"), save as type "All files (*.*)", encoding "Unicode" (because some characters do not exist in the Notepad default Ascii)
9. Be happy
Hmm, now I want to stick all the Timeframes in something my Kobo can read.
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### Re: 1190: "Time"

for linux (or macOS presumably):

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sed 's_$_<br/>_g' < BOTTeriada.html > BOTTeriada_formatted.html A more universal approach would be to use a text editor with regex search (notepad++, Sublime Text... etc), and use find and replace with the same parameters (serch for$, replace with <br/>)
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### Re: O MRORL, MRORL! WHEREFORE ART THOU MRORL?

That's true poetry. Steakish, mrob27!
Neil_Boekend wrote:Sadly it doesn't have any formatting. If anyone knows how to find returns and replace them with "<br/>" it would be greatly appreciated.

What about looking at the HTML source of the Newpage (“gf” in Pentadactyl, Ctrl+U in Firefox)? There you can search for the story and extract it with all formatting. (And then add header and footer, as described by Neil_Boekend.)

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### Re: O MRORL, MRORL! WHEREFORE ART THOU MRORL?

Sustainabilizer wrote:That's true poetry. Steakish, mrob27!
Neil_Boekend wrote:Sadly it doesn't have any formatting. If anyone knows how to find returns and replace them with "<br/>" it would be greatly appreciated.

What about looking at the HTML source of the Newpage (“gf” in Pentadactyl, Ctrl+U in Firefox)? There you can search for the story and extract it with all formatting. (And then add header and footer, as described by Neil_Boekend.)

Sustainabilizer, still paralysed by BFTF Still analysing the story. Parts of it are recursive. Also, did we ENHANCE everything? And where's the molpy? In any case, baobabs.

Yaay, that did it even better than just replacing returns with <br>. I am now figuring out how to store it somewhere so OTTher OTTers can acces it.
The forums are not made for such file sharing. HTML is not allowed, TXT is not allowed. JPG is scanned for image dimensions so I can't even change the filename to JPG and upload it that way. I am trying the Wiki or else I will stick it on a public Google Drive file.

Edit: Google docs worked. I updated the original post for ketchuppers and Blitzers.
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### TimeAfterTime Revisited – t1i-1232

GOATUNG IS A ART -- ongomome
Spoiler:
Wait for it.

Did you notice …
… Ms. Frizzle's plans?
Spoiler:
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### CROUCHING [SPOILER], HIDDEN WOLPY

For decree: We need an OTTish unit of temporo-spaaatial distortion. I propose the ГЕШГ.
Somewhere to the East of the Moonbase, in the year we normally think of as 1983С, some researchers developed Chronotrasponder technology in secret. The amount of temporo-spaaatial distortion needed to establish a field reversal and initiate contact was measured, and 1 billionth of that amount (a convenient size for use in experiments) was given a unit, called the ESG, which stands for "extra-spaaatiotemporal-gravitic", because the field exists outside the dimensions of Spaaace-Time and Gravity. Due to translating errors it ended up being abbreviated ЕШГ, and the minimal field needed for Chronotransponding is therefore one Giga-ESG, or "ГЕШГ".
(Any resemblance to LEML is purely coincidental.)

Wow, @Neil_Boekend, that's steakish!
Neil_Boekend wrote:Sadly it doesn't have any formatting. If anyone knows how to find returns and replace them with "<br/>" it would be greatly appreciated.

I see you found another way, but in general you could also just add "<pre>" right after "<body>" and "</pre>" right before "</body>". That will make it respect the newlines and CJK spaces in any plain text you're trying to HTMLify including my story.
To get all of the bOTTeriada text, copy it from here, courtesy of @balthasar_s and his bots. This also has simple markup allowing you to see where I intended to italicise, etc.

The forums are not made for such file sharing. HTML is not allowed, TXT is not allowed.

".gz" is allowed (examples: OTT:1905:25 and OTT:2053:5) as is ".zip" (example: OTT:1117:20). Browsers sometimes automatically uncompress these types and if the content is a single file, display the content appropriately. What do E-readers do? Try it out!

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### Re: CROUCHING [SPOILER], HIDDEN WOLPY

mrob27 wrote:Wow, @Neil_Boekend, that's steakish!
Neil_Boekend wrote:Sadly it doesn't have any formatting. If anyone knows how to find returns and replace them with "<br/>" it would be greatly appreciated.

I see you found another way, but in general you could also just add "<pre>" right after "<body>" and "</pre>" right before "</body>". That will make it respect the newlines and CJK spaces in any plain text you're trying to HTMLify including my story.
To get all of the bOTTeriada text, copy it from here, courtesy of @balthasar_s and his bots. This also has simple markup allowing you to see where I intended to italicise, etc.

<pre> makes word wrap sucky. For some reason my Kobo cuts words in half instead of breaking a sentence on a space.
I am HTMLifying all of BOTTeradia. For the ASCII art I'll use <pre> but for the rest I'll use Notepad++ to change returns to <br/>.
Do you have a list of what you meant with that markup? Then I can change that to the semi-appropriate HTML (only semi because we should use CSS nowadays, but I feel that inline works better here since I am leaving most of the formatting up to the reader's choice (as is customary in E readers).).

mrob27 wrote:
The forums are not made for such file sharing. HTML is not allowed, TXT is not allowed.

".gz" is allowed (examples: OTT:1905:25 and OTT:2053:5) as is ".zip" (example: OTT:1117:20). Browsers sometimes automatically uncompress these types and if the content is a single file, display the content appropriately. What do E-readers do? Try it out!.

For now Google docs works well (since you don't have to have a Google account), but if anyone would prefer the .gz solution I am more than willing to provide it.

Edit to add: Does anyone have all of Time in a folder? Cuz I found a program that would probably let me stick them all in a single PDF so my Kobo can probably display it.
Also, all the fan stories? T1i? BFTF? The Beanies? Prickly? Cuz when I have it figured out for Time those would not be difficult.
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### Re: CROUCHING [SPOILER], HIDDEN WOLPY

Neil_Boekend wrote:Edit to add: Does anyone have all of Time in a folder? Cuz I found a program that would probably let me stick them all in a single PDF so my Kobo can probably display it.
Also, all the fan stories? T1i? BFTF? The Beanies? Prickly? Cuz when I have it figured out for Time those would not be difficult.

Yes, I have Time, Prickly, POTM, Lucky, beany, bean2, t1i, Zanclean Zodiac, and BFTF.
http://1190.bicyclesonthemoon.info/aftertime/time
http://1190.bicyclesonthemoon.info/aftertime/prickly
http://1190.bicyclesonthemoon.info/aftertime/potm
http://1190.bicyclesonthemoon.info/aftertime/lucky
http://1190.bicyclesonthemoon.info/aftertime/beany
http://1190.bicyclesonthemoon.info/aftertime/bean2
http://1190.bicyclesonthemoon.info/aftertime/t1i
http://1190.bicyclesonthemoon.info/aftertime/zodiac
http://1190.bicyclesonthemoon.info/aftertime/bftf
zip files for each story:
And there is also this: http://xkcdtime.comicsfu.com/ (found on the wiki)

ETA: Maybe I can teach the mr*bdexbot to generate HTML output too.
Not today.
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### Cueganmas is not that nice

I could add a mirror somewhere at chirpingmustard.com for G-allergic people.
Also, we need a new mirroring strategy. I just got hit by a copyright infringement claim
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### Re: 1190: "Time"

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### Re: 1190: "Time"

Thanks Balthasar!
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AluisioASG wrote:I could add a mirror somewhere at chirpingmustard.com for G-allergic people.

To expand on this: is there interest on standalone versions of sTTOries? Which ones? Do y'all want (ebook-ready?) PDFs as well? Multi-chapter stories, one per page or all in one? Both?
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### Re: 1190: "Time"

What I am trying to create is a PDF for each story. One image per page, rotated 90° because that fits better, if possible chaptered in such a way that the e-reader can recognize them. For example Time would have the Eons as chapters.

Current status:
BFTF: 90° rotated(better on hand held devices, such as e-readers) and normal
Bean 2: 90° rotated (normal upon request)
T1i: 90° rotated (normal upon request)
Beany: 90° rotated (normal upon request)
Lucky: 90° rotated (normal upon request)
Prickly: 90° rotated (normal upon request)
OTC: 90° rotated normal (Thanks Balthasar!)

The way I am doing this:
Spoiler:
I used ImageMagick with the command "convert ./*.png -rotate 90 ../T1i.pdf" in the folder where I stored the images after extraction from Balthasar's zip. It creates the pdf in the folder above it.
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### Re: 1190: "Time"

Haven't been able to say anything... mouth full of ice cream. Ketchup tomorrow.

Tomorrow, except for:
AluisioASG wrote:Also, we need a new mirroring strategy. I just got hit by a copyright infringement claim
Huh? Who? Why?

and

Is this where you work HES?

Oh, and also:
Just realized I could make a quicktime of BFTF. Cool! Then I realized it's 34MB. Hmmm.

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### TimeAfterTime Revisited – t1i-1234

GAZEBO. BUNGALOW. M&M. HARPSICHORD. GUINEAMOLP. -- ongomome
Spoiler:
Wait for it.

Did you notice …
… what Cueganzzle are doing?
Spoiler:
Ms. Frizzle is pulling out the newly-drawn map from her notebook. She wants to lodge it in a cairn² she built out of stones from the beach. Cueball is bringing more stones for the cairn.
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### Re: 1190: "Time"

Thanks for the work in making the sTTOries (treeish word) more accessible, all!

For decree, I think I could get used to using "decinewpix" (dnp) more, since 360 secondsH is an easily reckonable length of Time.
"Dinner will be ready in a dinip!"

ggh wrote:
AluisioASG wrote:Also, we need a new mirroring strategy. I just got hit by a copyright infringement claim
Huh? Who? Why?
I'd be interested to know more, too.

ggh wrote:
Spoiler:
BlitzGirl, why is there a fish in the vacuum cleaner?
Spoiler:
The original prompt was: "In an ideal vacuum, at what point does this fish realize it's going to die?"

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### Re: You gotta search for the D.M.C.A

BlitzGirl wrote:
ggh wrote:
AluisioASG wrote:Also, we need a new mirroring strategy. I just got hit by a copyright infringement claim

Huh? Who? Why?

I'd be interested to know more, too.

I don't know how much more I can share.
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### Re: 1190: "Time"

Those are all the PDFs I'm going to create for now. Imagemagick doesn't allow me to create chapters so I'll have to find another program to make eons easy in the OTC one.

Edit: hmm, the OTC one is corrupted. Vastly differen image sizes. I'll have to do that over.
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### SO I HERD U POST GHOLPIES

Neil_Boekend wrote:Do you have a list of what you meant with that markup?

I've written about RHTF several times, most recently at OTT:2270:1 and OTT:2271:3. You can look at this webpage if you want a more thorough set of examples. That page includes its own source code, which is most of the second half of the page. If you're just trying to handle bOTTeriada then there is only a rather small subset of the syntax you'll ever have to worry about. Most importantly, whitespace is significant: a blank line really means there should be a blank line, and a line starting with blank space means a new paragraph starts there, or at least a line break and forced indentation, however you want to handle it depending on what format you're converting to.
Some people might wonder what I had in mind picking various symbols. A few came from the way people used to use ASCII characters as markup in the 1980's: *asterisks* for "emphasis", _underscores_ for underlining (really just an older way to indicate emphasis), etc. and of course using whitespace the same way it had been on mechanical typewriters. I gradually added more when needed: #sharp# signs for boldface, [this|http://foo] type of thing for links and (- … -) to indicate centred text (rather than simply indented).
bOTTeriada actually uses "OTT-specific RHTF", in other words, I broke my own rules. [this|#p1234567] means a clickable link to the post on this forum with post ID p1234567, that is to say, a link to the URL http://fora.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?p=1234567#p1234567. In standard RHTF that syntax would be an in-page link whose target is given by an "<a name="#p1234567">" somewhere on the same page; I overload this syntax because there is no opportunity to actually link to local anchors in posts to the OTT. I'm just pointing this out because it might confuse you a bit.

Does anyone have all of Time in a folder? […] Also, all the fan stories? T1i? BFTF? The Beanies? Prickly?

I have each of those in its own folder, but didn't bother to make them into ZIP or gz archives like @balthasar_s did

BlitzGirl wrote:I'd be interested to know more, too.

Perhaps @AluisioASG's mirror of the OTT was challenged for violating the DMCA (or more likely, the WIPO Copyright Treaty and laws in his country that implement it). Perhaps there are link(s) somewhere that point to copyrighted material. The reason for saying "I don't know how much more I can share." is that any details (like actually telling which posts are to blame) call attention to the infringing link(s). For example, if my post at OTT:2000:30 contained a link to an illegal copy of some Japanese anime film (it doesn't), then just by saying so, I've just helped any lurkers-who-are-also-anime-pirates to grab something they shouldn't.
But at some point somebody has to get rid of the illegal content. If chirpingmustard's mirror got a takedown notice, then forums.xkcd.com also deserves to get a takedown notice, because it has the same content. Probably the best thing to do is for @AluisioASG to contact a moderator of this forum and tell that moderator which post(s) in the OTT are the target of the DMCA notice, and the moderator can delete the post(s), and the rest of us can relax and assume it is being taken care of. We'll know it's happened if the current Mome of 2326 slips back to page 2325.

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### Re: SO I HERD U POST GHOLPIES

mrob27 wrote:We'll know it's happened if the current Mome of 2326 slips back to page 2325.

Not necessarily. They might as well edit the post to remove just the criticised parts, leaving the post itself in place. (I guess they'll do it that way. Our moderators are nice people. )

About creating PDF files: FWIW, I wrote a simple shell script “bb2l” (using sed) to convert BBCode to LaTeX:

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#!/bin/bash# bb2l – Convert BBCode to LaTeX# Copyright (C) 2014, 2015 by Peter Gerwinski <peter@gerwinski.de># This software is Free Software under the GNU GPL, version 3 or higher.# Usage: ./bb2l < molpy.bb > molpy.texcat << EOF\documentclass{article}\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}\usepackage[normalem]{ulem}\usepackage{parskip}\newenvironment{bbquote}[1]%  {\begin{quotation}\parindent0pt\parskip\smallskipamount\noindent\textbf{#1 wrote: \nopagebreak}}%  {\end{quotation}}\newcommand{\smiley}[1]{\begin{picture}(0,0)\put(5.25,2.75){\circle{13.5}}\end{picture}\texttt{#1}}\begin{document}EOFsed -e 's/^$$[^]$$/  \1/' \    -e 's/$list$/\\begin{itemize}/g' \    -e 's/$\/list$/\\end{itemize}/g' \    -e 's/$\*$$/\\item/g' \ -e 's/$\*$/\\item /g' \ -e 's/$\/\*$//g' \ -e 's/$quote="$$[^"]*$$"$/\\begin{bbquote}{\1}/g' \ -e 's/$\/quote$/\\end{bbquote}/g' \ -e 's/$b$/\\textbf{/g' \ -e 's/$\/b$/}/g' \ -e 's/$i$/\\emph{/g' \ -e 's/$\/i$/}/g' \ -e 's/$s$/\\sout{/g' \ -e 's/$\/s$/}/g' \ -e 's/$sup$/\\raisebox{0.5ex}{/g' \ -e 's/$\/sup$/}/g' \ -e 's/#/\\#/g' \ -e 's/ - / -- /g' \ -e 's/ -$/ --/g' \    -e 's/\.\.\./{\\dots}/g' \    -e 's/e\.g\./e.\\,g.\\/g' \    -e 's/…/{\\dots}/g' \    -e 's/:)/\\smiley{:)}/g' \    -e 's/:(/\\smiley{:(}/g' \    -e 's/;)/\\smiley{;)}/g' \    -e 's/ε/{$\\epsilon$}/g' \    -e 's/LaTeX/{\\LaTeX}/g'cat << EOF\end{document}EOF

I'm using it to work on The Journal of OTTics and Molpology (AKA Proceedings of the International Interdisciplinary Conference Towards a Sustainable Online Community). Wait for it.

ETA: License information and usage instructions for bb2l
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### Re: 1190: "Time"

Seems to me that the thing to do would be to ask nicely if {mirror} could retain the content, after explaining what and why the mirror exists. The takedown notice is probably automated; if you can get a real person to listen, you might get somewhere.

As to the other mirrors, I'd wait for it. No reason to be proactive.

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### Re: SO I HERD U POST GHOLPIES

mrob27 wrote:The reason for saying "I don't know how much more I can share."

is that I don't know much about the legalese behind these, though according to Chilling Effects I'd be allowed to post it.

mrob27 wrote:If chirpingmustard's mirror got a takedown notice, then forums.xkcd.com also deserves to get a takedown notice, because it has the same content.

ucim wrote:Seems to me that the thing to do would be to ask nicely if {mirror} could retain the content, after explaining what and why the mirror exists. The takedown notice is probably automated

I don't think so. Besides, the reason they listed for sending the notice is, well, reasonable.
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### TimeAfterTime Revisited – t1i-1235

THWAP YOUR CH*RPUNG GUINEAMOLPS. THWAP THEM. -- ongomome
Spoiler:
Wait for it.

Did you notice …
… what Ms. Frizzle is doing?
Spoiler:
Earthling on Mars, BlitzGirl, and ZoomanSP did.
(A ship is going to pick them up at this place. She's leaving a flag and a cairn with a map to tell their comrades where to find them instead.)
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Febrion wrote:2-5A couple is two - by definition. I can agree with the others varying, but that one should be static. And really, "several" could be more than 5 IMO, and "a handful" really just depends on the person, and the size of their hand(s)

<other stuff>

p.p.p.s. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! I'm not sure why, but it seems to be the thing to do right now, and I'm a sucker for peer pressure1534. Apparently there was a decree about it, but I can't find it.
I'm a big fan of the "handful". I use it and I wish I used it more. I wonder how many a handful would be to Cuegan... 0?

About the decree-thingee, it was sorta an implied one. I posted my wailing sentiments of redundant endishness over th* *nd of bftf, not realizing I was pope. When I checked in later, it had already been adopted as a decree, so I didn't edit one in, which was great, because my two recent decrees have been blech.

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### Re: 1190: "Time"

AluisioASG wrote:
ucim wrote:Seems to me that the thing to do would be to ask nicely if {mirror} could retain the content, after explaining what and why the mirror exists. The takedown notice is probably automated

I don't think so. Besides, the reason they listed for sending the notice is, well, reasonable.

Oh, well if it's a reasonable reason I suppose that's reasonable then. Thanks to mrob for further explanation as well.

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### Re: 1190: "Time"

BlitzGirl wrote:
AluisioASG wrote:
ucim wrote:Seems to me that the thing to do would be to ask nicely if {mirror} could retain the content, after explaining what and why the mirror exists. The takedown notice is probably automated

I don't think so. Besides, the reason they listed for sending the notice is, well, reasonable.

Oh, well if it's a reasonable reason I suppose that's reasonable then. Thanks to mrob for further explanation as well.

BlitzGirl wrote:For decree, I think I could get used to using "decinewpix" (dnp) more, since 360 secondsH is an easily reckonable length of Time.
"Dinner will be ready in a dinip!"

For decree I am now practicing dinips. It took me about a dinip to do my most recent ketchup. I am going out for a walk in three dinips. I will probably do another xkcloud drawing later since it generally takes less than a dinip to complete one.

I will be mopying down in about 3 dinips, but until then, I must ponder: how did the baobabs cross Africa?
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### Re: 1190: "Time"

taixzo wrote:I will be mopying down in about 3 dinips, but until then, I must ponder: how did the baobabs cross Africa?

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### TimeAfterTime Revisited – t1i-1237

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### CROUCHING SQUIRPY, HIDDEN CAKE

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### Hide frames in frames!

And now:

So I can have a redundant palette.
What can I do with it?

I can hide a frame inside a frame!

For example, in this frame:

I could want to hide this:

Both frames have the same size.
And both have 4 colors.

I could create a new frame with 16 colors:

And I can select the colors for the pixels so that the horizontal position is determined by the color in the hidden frame and the vertical position by the color in the visible frame.

And if all 4 colors in each row are the same I get this:

But If I do some 467 I get this:

And I don't do it all by hand.

I wrote a piece of software that dos it for me
I only have to"

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D:\OTT\ONG\png>d:\pro\bftframes\insert 617a.png 617b.png 617.png 1 0

617a.png and 617b.png are the input frames, 617.png is the output frame, 1 and 0 are the ratio of visibility of the two frames.
I could use other values, for example 2 and 1, and get this:

And that's how I can do the fading.

If I join this:

and this:

With a ratio of 1:1
I get this:

How to enhance things like that?
Just take the diagonal colors and expand them horizontally (or vertically):

And again I have software that does it for me:

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D:\OTT\ONG\png>d:\pro\bftframes\extract 904.png a904.png b904.png

And that's not limited to only 4-color frames:

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### Re: The future's pretty cool!

Y'know, when I posted the last frame, I didn't know it was. I think that there was still a timer then, and I thought that there would be another frame when I arose from coma. Apologies to anyone I may have ninja'd.
balthasar_s wrote:
quote wrote:And I don't understand so much stuff.

Yes, it has some unexplained, unanswered, unnoticed things. But if something wasn't explained in the story, it doesn't mean that It can't be explained outside of the story somewhere in the future.

Also, I didn't plan this story to answer everything.
For example, I wanted to show what the OTC and OTT were doing to people like me (and not only). How it influenced, inspired, changed them. (Somethilg like what WHYDTMT did, but more) I wanted to show the transition to becoming an OTTer.
And some other things.

I guess I'd like to start meta on the understanding thing: I'd like to get a sense of how much you want BFTF to be understood. For example, I think SilentTimer wanted folks to figure out what t1i meant (after a reasonable struggle) but I can't tell if the meaning of BFTF is a puzzle to be figured out, or just there to have meaning for those on the moonbase. Those "unexplained, unanswered, unnoticed things"... unexplained and unanswered sound like a matter of artistic choice, but unnoticed... that's on us.

I want to work with my fellow OTTers to notice, and to figure out the things you left us clues to, but I don't have a good feel for the rules of engagement. If I don't ask questions, I think I may not get any closer to understanding anything, but then when I do ask, there's often no response, and I wonder if I've committed an offensive faux pas. Should I back off? Should I not back off, but understand that the pieces of the puzzle are what they are and that no further clues or "warmer/colder" will be given?

And now I'm worried that it looks like I'm focussed on the wrong thing - the mysteries instead of the wonderful warm story. I have been loving the story all along, but I admit, the mysteries do gnaw at me as well. You mentioned being there at OTTerCon and folks looking at BFTF and missing something... you threw down a pretty big ( there, dontcha think?

But now am I pressuring you? I don't want to do that. Waffle, waffle.

I feel like automome wrote:I have developed a system to ONG arbitrary aftertime stories

ETA: heh - didn't notice I was ninja'd by a handful of dinips. Treeish system, balthamixer! Apologies for the wacky colours I gave to the frames I enhanced - I never really learned how to make the maps properly in the Gimp, and just chose maps from their presets. Last night I tried to enhance the frame where kxa's speech gets obscured by scribbles, but alas, I found nothing there.
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### African or European chirpies

taixzo wrote:I will be mopying down in about 3 dinips, but until then, I must ponder: how did the baobabs cross Africa?

I feel this is a molpish question deserving of further pondering in ottificatory form.
The original source.-1

CUEBALL: Where did you get the baobabs?

BEANIE: Through... We found them.

BEANIE: What do you mean?

MEGAN: Well, that's over five thousand kilocues away.0

BEANIE: The chirpy may fly south with the sun, or the other-type-of-chirpy or the other-other-type-of-chirpy seek warmer hot lands in winter, yet these are not strangers to our land.

CUEBALL: Are you suggesting baobabs migrate?

BEANIE: Not at all. The fruit could be carried.

MEGAN: What? A chirpy carrying a baobab fruit?

BEANIE: Why not?

MEGAN: I'll tell you why not... because a chirpy is about a decicue long and weighs five ounces, and you'd be lucky to find baobab fruit under three pounds.

BEANIE: It could grip it by the stem...

MEGAN: It's not a question of where xe grips it, It's a simple matter of weight ratios! A five-ounce chirpy could not hold a three pound baobab fruit.

BEANIE: Well, it doesn't matter. I'll go and tell Rosetta that Cuegan from the sea1 is here.

MEGAN: Look! To maintain air speed velocity, a chirpy needs to beat its wings twelve times every minip. Right?

MEGAN: Am I right?

BEANIE: I'm not interested.

CUEBALL: It could be carried by an African chirpy!

MEGAN: Oh yes! An African chirpy maybe... but not a European chirpy. That's my point.

CUEBALL: Oh yes, I agree there ...

BEANIE: I'm going to go ask Rosetta if she wants to see you or not!

MEGAN: But then of course African chirpies are non-migratory.

CUEBALL: Oh yes.

MEGAN: So they wouldn't be able to bring a baobab fruit back anyway.

[The frustrated BEANIE walks off to find ROSETTA]

CUEBALL: Wait a minip! Suppose two chirpies carried it together?

MEGAN: No, they'd have to have it on a line.

CUEBALL: Well, simple! They'd just use a strand of grapevine!

MEGAN: What, held under the dorsal guiding feathers?

CUEBALL: Well, why not?

[end scene]

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ps The astute OTTer may note that while the baobab fruit may be too seaish for a chirpy, African or European, the seeds inside the baobab fruit are of a far more manageable weight.
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### Re: 1190: "Time"

ggh, if you have ever committed an offensive faux pas I can't remember it so even in the unlikely case that you have it can't have been all that big in my eyes. If I don't answer a question it's usually because when I read the question I have to think about it. During that thinking I continue reading the OTT, and then I g.... ooo shiny!

By the way I must say that an E reader is a perfect way of consuming the OTC and derivatives. It's a bit sad that the colors of BFTF get lost but the interface is perfect.
I should stick Prickly and Lucky in one PDF though. They are sort of one story.
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### Re: The future's pretty cool!

ggh wrote:Y'know, when I posted the last frame, I didn't know it was. I think that there was still a timer then, and I thought that there would be another frame when I arose from coma. Apologies to anyone I may have ninja'd.

There was a bug in ong.awk. It should have automatically removed the timer by changing the ongstate to 3. It didn't. At ONGtime I was presenting the typewriter.
After I finished I manually removed the timer. And then I fixed the bug.

Don't be afraid of asking questions!
Maye something that couldn't be answered then can be now.
Maybe not.

I don't remember all the questions.

ggh wrote:Last night I tried to enhance the frame where kxa's speech gets obscured by scribbles, but alas, I found nothing there.
As seen in bftf-0259, the cable is broken and she could not hear any more words.

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### Re: 1190: "Time"

taixzo wrote:I will be mopying down in about 3 dinips, but until then, I must ponder: how did the baobabs cross Africa?

To get to the other side, of course!
(Oh, how, not why. Never mind.)

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### Re: 1190: "Time"

There are baobabs in the Caribbean.... man is much more likely to have spread trees these days (though I appreciate the Monty Python reference).
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