1190: "Time"

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Re: 1190: "Time": GOATEE, RELEASE THE HAIKUS!

Postby Gingercat » Tue Jun 21, 2016 12:17 am UTC

Since I'm Popecat, I decree: Find and listen to a Crowded House song (any will do) and post your thoughts on it! It can be their most famous ones (such as Don't Dream It's Over, my all-time fave song) or more obscure ones like Pineapple Head (there's a story behind that) or Private Universe!

And now I'll fulfill my own decree by continuing an existing conversation. Score!

ggh wrote:
Gingercat wrote:In The Lowlands is such a cheerful, catchy tune!
I can't tell if that's sarcasm.... I'm guessing no, but for those playing along at home, the song begins with "Oh, Hell, trouble is coming/Out here in panic and alarm" and has such uplifting lines as "Fear will take the place of desire" and "Ghost cars on the freeway/Like friends that you thought you had/One by one, they're disappearing".


In keeping with my nature, it was both serious and sarcasm in equal measure. I feel that this particular one can be either uplifting or quite depressing, depending on the mood of the listener. I know it's had both effects on me at different times; if happy, I can sing along in an amused manner. If sad, I feel sadder! (Especially when encountering the Ghost Cars.)

And yet.... In that sense (and probably that sense only) it reminds me of Dirty Creature, which, while really dark lyrically, is - would you say, GingerCat, that that's Split Enz's most danceable number?


Absolutely. Play that at any dance and you'll attract people to the floor, likely with some dirty dancing in evidence at some points. Kudos also for the word "danceable"!

Gingercat wrote:[Words] - This change is causing them to be suddenly and unusually awful to someone they love.
Oh gee, now that you put it that way, suddenly there's a friend I'll be thinking of when I hear it.


I'm not sure if I'm right on that with regard to the song, but it seems to fit having seen it happen myself. (Alcohol, the double-edged sword...)

Gingercat wrote:Mansion In The Slums is another quite interesting song/statement by Neil, in my opinion - "I'd much rather have a caravan in the hills / Than a mansion in the slums". What are your thoughts on that particular one, ggh?
Gee, now I'm super-curious about what you're going to say about that, because I thought it was one of the less confusing ones (though the bleeding-to-death lines don't really make sense to me). I always saw Mansion as an anti-rat-race, anti-keeping-up-with-the-jones', anti-trying-to-impress kinda tune: better to be poor but live your life a way that makes you happy. And then it gets kinda jokey, with, hey, wouldn't it be even cooler to live your life however you please and be rich?


My view on this song, which makes the bleeding-to-death lines especially pertinent: It's a comment very much on a keep-up-with-the-Joneses lifestyle, burying yourself further and further in debt just to maintain the illusion of wealth (when you're actually bleeding yourself dry and displaying just enough self-awareness to laugh at your own folly). I feel that Neil is saying here that he'd rather have simple possessions that don't require excessive upkeep (a caravan in the hills is pretty trouble-free) than try and maintain a mansion in the slums (maintaining a mansion would be expensive enough; if it's in the slums as well, who are you really going to impress with it?) "Who can stop me / With money in my pocket?" as a finisher really cements it home: It's my money, I'll throw it around with no regard for the consequences!

Gingercat wrote:As well as Hole In The River. (Before I possibly color your opinion by providing my own, I'd like to hear your thoughts on these ones and definitely others as well!)
I haven't listened to Hole in the River for a while, so I might have to get back to you on that one. I mean, I remember liking it, even though it's so sad, but I don't recall much more than that.


This song makes me wonder if he lost someone important to drowning in a river; the "hole" in the river is the hole left in his life by losing that person...

Gingercat wrote:And have you heard some of CH's newer ones, such as Walked Her Way Down, or maybe Transit Lounge?
I liked that album a lot (although Transit Lounge is not one of my faves) - I'll get to it. :) I saw Crowded House once, maybe twice, on that tour and I remember the audience being impatient with the new stuff. One guy actually called out something... gee, I can't remember his words... but something along the lines of "enough of this new sh*t" which Neil heard and repeated at some point, maybe jokingly, maybe bitterly. I am often proud of Wellington, but not at that moment.


There's always at least one asshole determined to ruin it for others. Whether it's the idiots that keep whistling through their fingers at ear-damaging volume, hecklers, drunk morons who won't remember two minutes of the show, or oldskoolies who lament loudly and often that "Their old stuff was better!".
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45a: Unique Forms of Threadbrowsing in Time

Postby thunk » Tue Jun 21, 2016 12:27 am UTC

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UNG! Well for the previous newpix.

(Manip by BlitzGirl)

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Re: 1190: "Time": WE'RE GONNA NEED A MORE SEAISH GAZEBO

Postby ggh » Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:12 am UTC

thunk wrote:of course, it's best to keep quiet before ggh gets arrested for gardening without a license (probably a joke article).
I started to read that and first thought, oh no, this is real, before realising, yes, it's a joke article. But there was some proposed legislation a few years back - I don't know if it was passed or not - that aimed to restrict consumption of food from sources without some sort of licence. I doubt (she said hopefully) its goal was to prevent folks from eating their own tomatoes, but it would have hurt many small (often organic) growers.


yappobiscuits wrote:Forgot to reply to ggh's original post too - Good on you being converted to the ways of the accordion! I'd like to have seen it :P
Seen: maybe. Heard: no. The accordion bit was minimal - just left hand - a few straight chords and a polkaesque bit during the choruses. I used just four chords (five if you want to be generous and count the V7 separately from the V) and I couldn't land reliably on the one diminished chord I used, so I stuck a piece of felt on the button to help my fingers find it quickly. Is there a special term of mockery for folks who do that?



Ah, GingerCat - that makes sense about the bleeding to death as a financial metaphor.
About Hole in the River, all of these things are to be taken with a grain of salt, but according to http://www.finnatics.de/flim.pdf
Neil supposedly wrote:I'd seen a Shirley MacLaine movie where she'd threatened to commit suicide. She says "I'm going to throw myself off a bridge and make a hole in the river". The next day I was told that a member of the family in NZ had committed suicide and that phrase immediately sprang back. I wrote the song as a response to hearing that news. When you come across news like that you just think about the sort of emotions that churned inside to make that person take such an extreme step.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Gingercat » Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:37 am UTC

The lyrics make a lot of sense when given that context.
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1190: "Time": PUSH BUTTON, RECEIVE OTTERS

Postby thunk » Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:34 am UTC

HissUNGs...

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Here, we see Megan with thwapstick held on high, caught in the moment of heroism. Framed between the plants on the left and the uncrowded house on the right; it almost reminds me of Bernini's David.

The apotheosis of the Two precedes their long night on the bald mountain. And that will prove instrumental to them pushing on to meet the Beanies and figuring out what was happening.

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1190: "Time" - Time Revisited - np2235

Postby mscha » Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:10 am UTC

WORRYUNGS...
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Replay Time live here!

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Re: 1190: "Time" - Time Revisited - np2235

Postby HES » Tue Jun 21, 2016 8:52 am UTC

mscha wrote:WORRYUNGS...

Still 1/3 of my desktop wallpaper
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ZoomanSP » Tue Jun 21, 2016 10:39 am UTC

You're welcome.
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ggh wrote:
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"Isn't it good, Norwegian carpet!"

I guess that's why they never made a hit record.
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"Eating warp and weftdom - let us be"
"Na na na na-na-na-naa, Na-na-na-naa, hey, chewed"
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Postby macraw83 » Tue Jun 21, 2016 11:59 am UTC

HES wrote:
mscha wrote:WORRYUNGS...

Still 1/3 of my desktop wallpaper

Still all 4 of my desktop wallpapers. And the magnet is on my fridge :D

Accidentally opened the most recent NP instead of NP1, my favorite OTColored was the first thing I saw, had to comment. Back to the Blitz, only 266 NP to go...

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Postby karhell » Tue Jun 21, 2016 1:39 pm UTC

macraw83 wrote:ETA: Right now I'm Blitzing through the two dips of OTTerCon, which is wowterfully awesomeful. However, I'm not seeing a whole lot of info about recordings and such, is there some sort of central repository of data from the conference?

weeeeelll.... IIRC, Sustainabilizer has an archive of the video recordings, and there was a conjoined effort coordinated by mrob to anano...anomni...anonmitici... make the IRC logs anonymous which kinda stalled as I'm not sure whether there was actually a consensus about the method of delivery.
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Postby macraw83 » Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:26 pm UTC

karhell wrote:weeeeelll.... IIRC, Sustainabilizer has an archive of the video recordings, and there was a conjoined effort coordinated by mrob to anano...anomni...anonmitici... make the IRC logs anonymous which kinda stalled as I'm not sure whether there was actually a consensus about the method of delivery.
In that case, I imagine I'll find links to an archive, if one is available, as I Blitz. It would be treeish to have IRC text, since it sounds like there was a wowterful amount of molpying around on it, so if there's still a chance to anonymize it I'd love to offer up any assistance I could give. Or if not, I'll have to just hope that we can have another meetup sometime in the future, in which case I'll annoy theMinim.

ETA: I just got to where Marsh'n was proclaimed Supremely Molpish Facilitator of Communication for all of his contributions related to the OTTerCon and the IRC channel :)
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby svenman » Tue Jun 21, 2016 7:52 pm UTC

So it has come to this.

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OTTerly redundant
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But of course this calls for a redundacomic, what did you think?

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby azule » Tue Jun 21, 2016 10:08 pm UTC

^ Congrats ^

ggh wrote:azule! Yay! What's new, fox?

The notifications. They're new. That's how I even know you quoted me. :) Hi! What's new with you?

mrob27 wrote:Thanks for continued work, @balthasar_s!
So there are frames missing from my viewer too?

As far as I can tell, that is correct. Did you obfuscate your viewer as much as @azule ch*rped up the Zanclean Zodiac pages?
  I'll describe as much as I've figured out, but I suspect there is a lot more hiding in there somewhere.
  If you go to xkcd.modularthought.com/zancleanzodiac/ you'll see a story and 10 images. One of the images is right-justified, and appears to be clickable, but clicking it does nothing.
  If you "view source" on that page, you get HTML containing {img src="img/XX.png"} tags that link to images numbered from 00.png through 21.png, in hexadecimal as you say. That's a total of 34 images. If you try to actually visit these links, you get images.
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  Frame 21 (which is 33 in decimal) also has variants a, b, c, d, and e. It appears to be served in a similar way as 19, except that the random URL does not give me random frames. Somehow I figured out or guessed that there were more letters and downloaded the others.
  There is Javascript (of course). Perhaps it pulls the shenanigins of hiding most of the images from view, or perhaps it's CSS. In the Javascript is a comment about "ctrl+arrow for next frame", but I couldn't find any actual combination of control plus any arrow key that does anything. I'll include the Javascript here in case anyone has the patience to figure out what it does. It's not minified in any normal sense of the word and not human-obfustcated in the ways I would expect, but nevertheless it's hard to see what it's doing and I couldn't be bothered. I did figure out that the inline image "data:image/png;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAA…EAOw==" is a 1x1 transparent PNG, the type used to make things non-clickable.

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      zz.mix.d.drawImage(zz.land.i,zz.land.x,zz.land.y);
      zz.mix.a = zz.mix.d.getImageData(0, 0, 549, 391);
      zz.stars.c.width=549;
      zz.stars.d.drawImage(zz.stars.i,-2,-2);
      var z = zz.frame[zz.n].z;
      if (z) {
         for (var i = 0; i < z.length; i++) {
            zz.draw(zz["zodiac"+z[i].z],
                  z[i].o,
                  z[i].x+(zz.land.x*0.15)|0,
                  z[i].y+(zz.land.y*0.15)|0,
                  i>0?true:null);
         };
      }
      zz.stars.a = zz.stars.d.getImageData(0, 0, 549, 391);

      // runInWebWorker();
      // zz.main.c.width = 549;
      // zz.main.d.drawImage(zz.stars.i,0,0);
      // zz.main.d.globalCompositeOperation = "lighter";
      // zz.main.d.drawImage(zz.land.i,zz.land.x,zz.land.y);
      zz.runcomp(zz.mix.a,zz.stars.a);
   }
   , runcomp: function(mix,stars) {
      zz.mix.c.width=549;
      if (zz.frame[zz.n].c) zz.mix.d.drawImage(zz.frame.i, zz.frame[zz.n].c.x+zz.land.x, zz.frame[zz.n].c.y+zz.land.y);
      zz.frame.a = zz.mix.d.getImageData(0, 0, 549, 391);

      for(var i = 0, n = stars.data.length; i < n; i += 4) {
         var rb = stars.data[i]
         , ra = mix.data[i]
         , rc = zz.frame.a.data[i]
         , ac = zz.frame.a.data[i+3] / 255

         // , rm = zz.acomposite(zz.divide(rb,rc),rb,ac)
         // , fin = zz.multiply(rm,ra);
         , fin = zz.multiply(rb,ra)
         // , rp = zz.acomposite(rc,fin,ac);
         , rm = zz.acomposite(rc,fin,ac);

         mix.data[i] = mix.data[i+1] = mix.data[i+2] = rm;
         mix.data[i+3] = 0xFF;
      }
      zz.main.d.clearRect(2, 2, 549, 391)
      zz.main.d.putImageData(mix, 2, 2);

      zz.V.blackflag = false;
   }
}

zz.M = {
   setTranslate: function(x,y) {
      zz.land.x=x;
      zz.land.y=y;
   }
   , iterate: function(){
      if (zz.n > zz.frame.length-1) {
         zz.n = zz.frame.length-1;
         console.log("Wait for it.");
      } else if (zz.n < 0) {
         zz.n = 0;
         console.log("The beginning.");
      };
      zz.V.blackflag = true;
      zz.initload();
   }
};
zz.C = {
   tObj: {}, stopWatch: ""
   , setDrag: function(e,el) {
      el.dragX = e.clientX || 0;
      el.dragY = e.clientY || 0;
   }
   , initdrag: function(e) {
      var t = zz.C.tObj;
      t.width = 1097;
      t.height = 781;
      zz.C.setDrag(e,t);
      zz.main.c.addEventListener('mousemove', zz.C.drag, false);
      zz.main.c.addEventListener('mouseup', zz.C.removedrag, false);
      zz.main.c.addEventListener('mouseout', zz.C.removedrag, false);
      zz.C.stopWatch = setInterval(function(){
         if(e.clientX !== t.dragX && e.clientY !== t.dragY) {
            zz.setcomp();
         }
      },80);
   }
   , drag: function(e) {
      var t = zz.C.tObj
      , framesizex = 549, framesizey = 391
      , x = (zz.land.x + (e.clientX || e.x || 0) - t.dragX)
      , y = (zz.land.y + (e.clientY || e.y || 0) - t.dragY);
      x = (x > 0) ? 0 : (x < -t.width+framesizex) ? -t.width+framesizex : x;
      y = (y > 0) ? 0 : (y < -framesizey) ? -framesizey : y;
      zz.C.setDrag(e,t);
      zz.M.setTranslate(x,y);
   }
   , removedrag: function() {
      clearTimeout(zz.C.stopWatch);
      zz.main.c.removeEventListener('mousemove', zz.C.drag, false);
      zz.main.c.removeEventListener('mouseup', zz.C.removedrag, false);
      zz.main.c.removeEventListener('mouseout', zz.C.removedrag, false);
   }
   , keyFn: function(e) {
      // console.log(e.keyCode);
      if (!e.altKey && (e.keyCode <= 40 && e.keyCode >= 37)) {
         // if (e.preventDefault) e.preventDefault();
         e.cancelBubble = false;
         e.x = e.y = 0;
         if (e.ctrlKey && !zz.V.blackflag) {
         /* step frame forward/reverse */
            if (e.keyCode === 37) {
               --zz.n;
               zz.M.iterate();
            } else if (e.keyCode === 39) {
               ++zz.n;
               zz.M.iterate();
            };
         } else if (e.ctrlKey && e.shiftKey) {
         /* skip scene forward/reverse */
            if (e.keyCode === 37) {
            } else if (e.keyCode === 39) {
            };
         };
      } else if (!e.altKey && !e.shiftKey && !e.ctrlKey && (e.keyCode === 192)) {
         /* toggle menu with [`] */
         // var gui = document.getElementById('gui');
         // gui.setAttribute('class',
         //    (gui.getAttribute('class') == 'show') ? 'hide' : 'show'
         //    );
      };
   }
};


var worker, runInWebWorker = function() {
  if (!worker && window.Worker) {
     /* inline worker technique */
    var blob = new Blob([document.querySelector('#worker').textContent]);

     worker = new Worker(window.URL.createObjectURL(blob));
     /* worker technique */
     // worker = new Worker("blob.js");
 }
  if (worker && window.Worker) {
      worker.addEventListener('message', function(e) {

        zz.main.d.clearRect(2, 2, 549, 391)
      zz.main.d.putImageData(e.data, 2, 2);
      });   
    worker.postMessage({data0:zz.mix.a,data1:zz.stars.a,data2:zz.data2});
  }
  else alert("Web Workers are not Supported in this Browser.");
}

- - -

zz.zodiac1 = {
   p: "M 109.5,773.04 C 114.5,706.04 146.5,661.04 213.5,665.04 280.5,669.04 212.5,679.04 194.5,736.04 176.5,793.04 124.5,793.04 124.5,793.04"
}
zz.zodiac2 = {
   p: "M 266.74,672 C 266.74,672 239.65,665.4 236.74,675 229.3,699.4 232.24,732.5 234.74,772 M 148,684 C 159.8,673.81 174.5,668.94 188.71,669.25 202.2,669.55 215.26,674.5 225,684 M 108,672 C 108,672 135.09,665.4 138,675 145.44,699.4 142.5,732.5 140,772"
}
zz.zodiac3 = {
   p: "M 213.689,702.55 C 204.32,679.01 133.18,647.62 107.08,693.92 M 213.689,702.55 C 241.67,676.65 288.19,654.67 325.08,693.13"
}
zz.zodiac4 = {
   p: "M 132,672 C 156.48,665.44 174.96,669.37 187.65,678.9 215.77,700.02 215.47,748.69 188.97,772.01 176.08,783.35 157.01,788.7 132,782 M 112,692 C 145,691 147,762 112,762"
}
zz.zodiac5 = {
   p: "M 218,798 C 218,765 214,757 203,734 192,711 165,704 153,711 138,721 153,746 167,737 183,728 187,705 174,687 161,669 141,663 112,675 M 218,798 C 218,765 222,757 233,734 244,711 271,704 283,711 298,721 283,746 269,737 253,728 249,705 262,687 275,669 295,663 324,675"
   , i: [0.55,1,1,1,1,2,0.55,1,1,1,1,2], d: true
}
zz.zodiac6 = {
   p: "M 135,759 C 116.76,758.25 110.4,753.37 110.63,746.86 110.87,740.04 118.37,731.43 127.03,723.94 155.24,699.54 187.87,682.25 228.04,668.28 M 187.69,710.61 C 224.56,690.83 255.26,680.93 280.74,679.25 294.47,678.34 303.69,682.97 307.84,689.83 314.82,701.38 307.49,719.27 283.31,727.86"
   , i: [0.8,1.4,1,0.8,0.8,1,1.8,0.8]
}
zz.zodiac7 = {
   p: "M 108,693 C 108,693 123,668 126,668 129,669 131,695 131,695 131,703 140,706 170,703 250,693 224,788 250,798 278,798 306,778 283,740"
}
zz.zodiac8 = {
   p: "M 108,837 C 108,837 164,768 191,732 196,726 193,716 206,712 219,708 252,667 252,667"
}
zz.zodiac9 = {
   p: "M 108,668 C 123,675 121,696 137,696 155,697 156,668 175,668 198,667 193,696 213,696 232,697 228,676 245,667"
}
zz.zodiac10 = {
   p: "M 109,684 108,713 M 109,684 138,700 M 139,667 138,700 M 139,667 168,684 M 197,667 168,684 M 197,667 198,700 M 229,684 198,700 M 229,684 228,713"
}
zz.zodiac11 = {
   p: "M 194,666 C 204,696 304,666 274,726 M 194,666 C 184,696 84,666 114,726"
}
zz.zodiac12 = {
   p: "M 108,717 198,665 M 152,681 124,775 M 152,681 177,773"
   , i: [2]
}
zz.zodiac13 = {
   p: "M 108.16,728.71 122,664.6 165.21,713.33 192.21,679.87 223.98,704.3 254.61,688.66 283.74,700.76 C 360.69,702.18 401.44,705.65 474.08,728.21"
   , i: [2,1.8,1.6,1.4,1.2,0.6,0.45,0.3]
}
zz.split = function(p){
   return p.split(/(?![\d.])(?:,| |\b)/);
}
zz.draw = function(z,both,x,y,t){
   var s = zz.split(z.p);
   var ctx = zz.stars.d || zz.main.d;
   ctx.fillStyle = '#f2f2f2';
   ctx.strokeStyle = '#f2f2f2';
   ctx.lineWidth = 0.7;
   ctx.globalAlpha = 0.8;
   ctx.save();
   ctx.translate(x-100, y+1080);
   // ctx.rotate(360);
   // ctx.scale(s||1, s||1);
   if (both) {
      zz.drawLine(ctx,s,z.d);
      zz.drawStars(ctx,s,z.i,t);
   } else {
      zz.drawStars(ctx,s,z.i,t);
   }
   ctx.restore();
   ctx.globalAlpha = 1;
}
zz.drawLine = function(ctx,s,dashed){
   if (dashed) zz.setDash(ctx, [5,5], 0);
   ctx.beginPath();
   for (var i = 0, type = 'M'; i < s.length; i++) {
      switch (s[i]) {
         case 'M':
            ctx.moveTo(s[++i], s[++i]);
            type = 'L';
            break;
         case 'L':
            ctx.lineTo(s[++i], s[++i]);
            type = 'L';
            break;
         case 'C':
            ctx.bezierCurveTo(s[++i],s[++i],s[++i],s[++i],s[++i],s[++i]);
            type = 'C';
            break;
         default:
            if (type == 'L') {
               ctx.lineTo(s[i], s[++i]);
            } else if (type == 'C') {
               ctx.bezierCurveTo(s[i],s[++i],s[++i],s[++i],s[++i],s[++i]);
            }
      }
   };
   ctx.stroke();
   if (s[s.length-1]=='z'){
      ctx.closePath();
   }
}
zz.drawStars = function(ctx,s,f,t){
   var offset = Math.PI / 2;
   f = f || [];
   for (var i = 0, j=0, type = 'M'; i < s.length; i++) {
      switch (s[i]) {
         case 'M':
            i+=2;
            type = 'L';
            break;
         case 'L':
            i+=2;
            type = 'L';
            break;
         case 'C':
            i+=6;
            type = 'C';
            break;
         default:
            if (type == 'L') {
               i+=1;
            } else if (type == 'C') {
               i+=5;
            }
      }
      // ctx.fillStyle = '#FFF';
      ctx.beginPath();
      var factor = f[j++]*1.5 || 1.5;
      if (t) factor = 1.5*0.5;
      var lastend=0;
      for (var x = 0; x < 100; x++) {
         ctx.moveTo(s[i-1], s[i]);
          var arcsector = Math.PI*(2*0.5/100);
         ctx.arc(s[i-1], s[i], 1+factor, lastend - offset, lastend + arcsector - offset, false);
         ctx.lineTo(s[i-1], s[i]);
          lastend += arcsector + 1;   
      };
      ctx.fill();
      ctx.beginPath();
      ctx.arc(s[i-1], s[i], factor, 0, Math.PI*2, false);
      // ctx.fillRect(s[i-1]-2, s[i]-2, 4, 4)
      // ctx.fillStyle = '#000';
      ctx.fill();
      // ctx.stroke();
   };
}
zz.setDash = function(context, array, offset) {

    offset = (typeof offset === 'number') ? offset : 0;

    if (typeof context.setLineDash !== 'undefined' && context.lineDashOffset) { //Chrome
        context.setLineDash(array);
        context.lineDashOffset(offset);
    } else { //Firefox
        context.mozDash = array;
        context.mozDashOffset = offset;
    }
}


First: *embarrassment* /reasons
Second: Yeah, those parts aren't hexadecimal. Hexadecimal was the "me" part of that (that no one else was doing). The "a, b, c" numbering is OTTish when there is more than one frame in one time section. So it ended up with a mix because of legacy and tribute. I didn't know what to number something that wasn't sequential, so that's how I ended up with x and z....
Third: I love how you try to figure it all out, mrob. I'm glad that my insufficiency as a webmaster/designer/whatever can at least create a mystery to be solved or whatever. lol.
Fourth: Yes, frame 21 is like frame 19, but frame 19 is completely random, while frame 21 will serve a frame based on the time of the request.
It's a PHP script that reads like so:

Code: Select all

$dmin = date("i");
   if ($dmin < 20 || $dmin >= 45) {
      header($loc . "z.png");
   } else if ($dmin < 25) {
      header($loc . "a.png");
   } else if ($dmin < 30) {
      header($loc . "b.png");
   } else if ($dmin < 35) {
      header($loc . "c.png");
   } else if ($dmin < 40) {
      header($loc . "d.png");
   } else if ($dmin < 45) {
      header($loc . "e.png");
   }

Which I believe was to correlate exactly to how we determined the meteor frames to have been released, or in 5 minute increments. I forget the results of my research that I did before I wrote that script out.
Fifth: The 1x1 PNG isn't for non-clicking. (I'm very against using those to keep people from right clicking. I avoid taking away someone's click whenever possible.) I'm pretty sure it was just in case it couldn't compute the image number correctly at least everything wouldn't break, so I serve "an image" just in case. The only intended obfuscation I did was to ensure that each frame was released only at the time that it was ready. Which, really, was never going to be too soon as I never had them ready beforehand, only right before I uploaded them. Made no difference, lol.
Sixth: Sorry for not commenting my code. I know it looks confusing, and it mostly is, but it's a bit more simple once you get familiar with it. I'm looking at it now and I see the functions that work with the keyboard, or with SVG, or with the canvas, which basically are all the components at play there.

I'm glad to clarify any more. PMs like we were doing is fine, too.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby azule » Tue Jun 21, 2016 10:37 pm UTC

ggh wrote:I confess vowel shifts never crossed my mind, but it did occur to me that the generic construction sign would probably be worded differently in a thousand years. But now I think not. Here's why:
Neat.
When did folks start using "neat" in that way? And when will they stop? What Cuegan speak in the OTC is a language appropriate for their time and place, remapped to Randallian English. Whatever that remapping function is, it is undoing the linguistic drifts, and I don't see any reason to think it wasn't applied to Beanish too. And if that's the course we're on, shouldn't that function get applied to ProtoBeanish as well?

Sadly I missed this convo (would need a link). I'm not totally sure what you're saying here, but if you were talking about having a phonetic writing system, then yes, vowel shifting will be the death of it. :P If you look at America (whiskey) you'll see that we can't possibly have a phonetic writing system here because you go over just a few states and they don't have the same vowels. Actually, go over even just a neighborhood in the U.S. (whisky) and you'll find a sound or two off. I have different vowels than some others in my same household. End of discussion there. :P

Well, to continue anyways I have a feeling that if a global language based on English emerged (as it is a lingua franca now) that it would then start to diverge. As much as we try to standardize a language the reality is that the "vulgar" will eventually win out and we'll speak whatever dialect our social group speaks. Just like OTTish as English. It's always inevitable.

I really wish I knew what you meant here about Proto-Beanish and the word "neat". I'm assuming you're saying that you think the shifting would have settled at the moment when Randall "transcribed" the Beanish at the time. I'd have to know more in order to know what else I should be thinking about here.
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1190: "Time" - Time Revisited - np2253

Postby mscha » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:10 am UTC

MENUNGOCOCCAL...
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Spoiler:
Wait for it.
(Colorization by Whizbang.)

Replay Time live here!

OTT Time Travel

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ggh » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:47 am UTC

Baobabs! Congratulations svenman! I gotta say - I am not surprised: what you've done (are doing) amazes me. Every time I go to the wiki looking for something, and I find it, I am wowed.


azule wrote:
ggh wrote:I confess vowel shifts never crossed my mind, but it did occur to me that the generic construction sign would probably be worded differently in a thousand years. But now I think not. Here's why:
Neat.
When did folks start using "neat" in that way? And when will they stop? What Cuegan speak in the OTC is a language appropriate for their time and place, remapped to Randallian English. Whatever that remapping function is, it is undoing the linguistic drifts, and I don't see any reason to think it wasn't applied to Beanish too. And if that's the course we're on, shouldn't that function get applied to ProtoBeanish as well?

Sadly I missed this convo (would need a link). I'm not totally sure what you're saying here, but if you were talking about having a phonetic writing system, then yes, vowel shifting will be the death of it. :P If you look at America (whiskey) you'll see that we can't possibly have a phonetic writing system here because you go over just a few states and they don't have the same vowels. Actually, go over even just a neighborhood in the U.S. (whisky) and you'll find a sound or two off. I have different vowels than some others in my same household. End of discussion there. :P

Well, to continue anyways I have a feeling that if a global language based on English emerged (as it is a lingua franca now) that it would then start to diverge. As much as we try to standardize a language the reality is that the "vulgar" will eventually win out and we'll speak whatever dialect our social group speaks. Just like OTTish as English. It's always inevitable.

I really wish I knew what you meant here about Proto-Beanish and the word "neat". I'm assuming you're saying that you think the shifting would have settled at the moment when Randall "transcribed" the Beanish at the time. I'd have to know more in order to know what else I should be thinking about here.
I'm not sure whether what I meant was well-thought out or not, but I can certainly tell you what I was thinking. Actually, I would love to talk to you about this stuff maybe a lot. But first, I don't know what you've read and what you haven't. There was a wowterful Time-After-Time, authored by taixzo, and that's the origin of the ProtoBeanish that I was referring to - you're aware of all that?

As a side note though, phonetic languages have other problems besides vowel-shifting that I never considered before I read a bit of Stephen Pinker. Roots would get trashed, and roots are handy - isn't it nice that the word electric is in the word electricity? And then there's the awkward fact that folks aren't saying what they think they're saying - for example NPR is pronounced MPR because your mouth is already moving into the P shape as it says the N. Hmm, I can't find my book. I'd like to be able to convey this without the grubby filter of my memory making random changes. Sigh. Maybe it will turn up soon - I know I've seen it around recently.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby addams » Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:38 am UTC

Following Gingercat's degree, I listened.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9gKyRmic20

Thoughts?
Long Time Ago.

Don't dream it is over, Time Thread.

Spoiler:
That song played in the background.
I only understood a few of the words, at the time.

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Even for those of us with fingers in 1988.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ggh » Wed Jun 22, 2016 9:10 am UTC

The Little Wonder and I have popped Afterglow into the CD player per degree (I feel like I just said that I popped a disc into the ChronosDragon player) and are into the third playthrough. Many of these songs I feel mildly positive towards (at least so far) but just like I remembered, I love the funkiness of Dr. Livingstone. I catch myself dancing in a way that I clearly can not pull off.

Lester is my other favourite on the album, not for the melody, but for the lyrics. SBN, I think you'd appreciate this one too - it's a man promising to be a better person if his dog (who has been hit by a car) pulls through. And Recurring Dream resonates with me too, but then, I'm from New Jersey, so that's no big surprise.

Haha - I just looked up Lester and saw a review that said "Lester is the nadir, a song about Neil Finn’s dog that will have even the biggest Crowded House fan reaching for the fast-forward button." What Ever. It's sweet.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby azule » Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:36 am UTC

I perused a little bit more on the investigation of Zanclean Zodiac's web problems. Thank you all for checking it in your browsers.

Okay, apparently when you write something like this: "Yet, ᘊᕒᖊᐣᑲᕬ will continue, unrelented by the nothingness in its future." you're just tempting fate to destroy your work... It disappeared just as "predicted". lol. I fixed the problem. A missing image. How sad that I didn't have error handling for that. :( "?latest" should now work!! and it doesn't break when you get to the end (the real end).

ucim wrote:and the top of the image is not shown. (The tops may be missing in all of them; I didn't check - there may be a size mismatch in the canvas).
According to mrob's and your descriptions, it sounds like you guys haven't dragged the frame around. The size mismatch is on purpose to allow the image to be manipulated. Basically the star background is the correct size and doesn't move at all; the constellation (when there is one) moves at about half the distance that it is dragged; and the foreground (land, trees, people, words) moves at the pace you drag the mouse. I did make the pre-composited images for this very reason, so that regardless of technical issues (browser capabilities, javascript errors) or lack of instruction (my fault) that y'all would have the "full" image, even if it wasn't "full size". (The pre-composited images are the ones that I posted directly onto the forum.) The "full size" images are only available by click+dragging. (It doesn't work on mobile, sorry. I have code in an inaccessible location that fixed all that, but sadly I didn't upload it while I had access.) I'll see about maybe coding in a quick fix for getting to the images via URL.

Hi, balthasar! Hi, ucim! Hi, taixzo! Hi, lmjb! Well, hi everyone helping out, and well, heck, everyone. :P

Also, hi BlitzGirl, who's not only back but apparently namesaking. :)

So, I egosearched my name on the OTT and see that there was some speculation that I made the new ONGs. Was it taixzo in the end? And also speculation because apparently I mentioned a fire 23 minutes before said ONGs started? haha, I didn't know it was so coincidentally posted. (I, for some reason, thought the ONGs started before I made that post...) Speaking of, can someone give me a link to a replay on these ONGs? I was having too much trouble "waiting for it" to enjoy it live, especially because of the double waiting (enhanced frames contained their own story?)... Does balthasar have those set up yet?

Lastly, glad to hear ED was getting help for his medical issue. We haven't lost any OTTer yet, right? That would be sad.

*phew* Replying is hard. So many things I just caught glimpses of that I will probably not make a reply for right now. That would just be another huge post. Those are fun, right? ;) Plus, I don't know what half of it means without reading the rest/context. Oh, well.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HES » Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:42 am UTC

azule wrote:We haven't lost any OTTer yet, right? That would be sad.

Assuming you mean lost as in the lost Dent Arthur Dent, as opposed to simply missing in the basement, does Neil count?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Neil_Boekend » Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:43 am UTC

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azule wrote:We haven't lost any OTTer yet, right? That would be sad.

Assuming you mean lost as in the lost Dent Arthur Dent, as opposed to simply missing in the basement, does Neil count?

I'm not lost. I just don't feel like anything I would say would really add to the OTT.
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Re: 1190: "Time": Obscure references lost

Postby HES » Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:57 am UTC

Didn't mean to imply you were, I meant lost as in no longer living.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ggh » Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:03 am UTC

I think HES was referring to your absence from the living.

ETA: Wait - what the ch*rp? How could I be ninja'd on that by 6 minutes? It's not like that reply took me very long to write....


ETA2: and thunk's recent absence of avatar has itself become absent. Is that the same dinosaur, in OTC flavour?
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Re: 1190: "Time": Obscure references lost

Postby Neil_Boekend » Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:07 am UTC

HES wrote:Didn't mean to imply you were, I meant lost as in no longer living.

I see. I forgot I was dead.
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Re: 1190: "Time": Obscure references lost

Postby SBN » Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:45 pm UTC

Neil_Boekend wrote:
HES wrote:Didn't mean to imply you were, I meant lost as in no longer living.

I see. I forgot I was dead.

Don't you hate when that happens?
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Re: 1190: "Time": Obscure references lost

Postby DrSamCarter » Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:45 pm UTC

Neil_Boekend wrote:
HES wrote:Didn't mean to imply you were, I meant lost as in no longer living.

I see. I forgot I was dead.


Ah, we learn that death may cause memory loss.

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Blitz Progress: 2238/2496

Postby macraw83 » Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:49 pm UTC

3 A.T. BlitzPost #2

NP 2167-2237


Finished Blitzing through all the molpish discussions during and immediately after OTTerCon... sounded like such an awesomeful experience! But now I am somewhat sad that I was in the Basement that whole time, but also hopeful that we'll have OTTerCon 2: Electric Boogaloo at some point.

In the wake of OTTerCon, there was some discussion of OTTers maybe not posting as much because they don't feel it's RELATED enough, which then spun off a conversation about said OTTers maybe not even knowing what all is RELATED due to not having Read It All. It was molpish to see comments like this one:
Neil_Boekend wrote:I love the signposts for the nostalgia they tend to stir up.

Right now, with my MFFSMFFS not letting me see the vast majority of embedded images, linked Youtube videos, or any content posted on most OTTers' personal websites (my own included), right now I'm Blitzing the OTT, but instead of the frequent signposts I made on each of my previous Blitzes I've been saving a list of posts to check again later for either content-viewing or signpost-quoting when I get a chance to OTT from a PTAPTA. Right now this list has 130 posts in it, because the pull of the Outside is somehow much stronger away from my MFFS than it is at my MFFS. In any case, this gave me an idea that is RELATED to this quote from later on the same NP:
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jovialbard wrote: I wish someone would create a signpost account and post a weekly or bimonthly digest of what's been going on in the ott. Then I could search that user's posts and feel like I have a handle on what's been going on lately. That might be disruptive to regular readers though...

I actually kind of love this idea. It's like an OTTer newspaper!

Maybe it would make sense to hang onto all of these quotes and do a set of gradual "Post-Blitz" signposts? And then I could continue to document posts that seem like a good summary of the goings-on in the OTT at the time, and make some sort of OTT-Miply? Unless someone's already doing this, so maybe for now I'll just
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Re: 1190: "Time": Obscure references lost

Postby Neil_Boekend » Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:52 pm UTC

DrSamCarter wrote:Ah, we learn that death may cause memory loss.

No it doesn't. I don't remember forgetting anything ever.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby macraw83 » Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:59 pm UTC

Just noticed something epsilon... If I pull up my list of posts from my profile page, the most recent post that shows up is my unbasementing post, but shortly after that I made a few posts trying to figure out the best way to OTT from my MFFSTAMFFSTA, and then made a Signpost, and a couple other random posts here and there. Any thoughts? Is this something I should put in the Forum Issues meta-forum?



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ETA the last posts that show up on the list on Neil's and ggh's profiles are each from May, even though they both show up on this NP, so I'm not the only one. But DrSamCarter and SBN both have their posts from todip on their list, so it's not exactly a fora-wide issue...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby HES » Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:17 pm UTC

Users' post pages have been ch*rped since the fora software was migrated a little while ago. It is a known issue, and fora wide, it's just inconsistent and unpredictable.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby ggh » Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:26 pm UTC

macraw83 wrote:Just noticed something epsilon... If I pull up my list of posts from my profile page, the most recent post that shows up is my unbasementing post, but shortly after that I made a few posts trying to figure out the best way to OTT from my MFFSTAMFFSTA, and then made a Signpost, and a couple other random posts here and there. Any thoughts? Is this something I should put in the Forum Issues meta-forum?
Nah, it's been broken ever since the forum upgrade - my latest post was May 16th. I'm guessing it is very hard thing to fix.

Here's a trick: at the bottom of the page you have sorting options - the first box is set to All Results by default, but you can limit the timeframe like a half dozen ways. If you really want to search more recent posts, select a different option and you'll probably get the results you want. But there's a catch: you will have just broken that option - those results will be locked in from then on until some date that the cache expires on that search (maybe a month?) so burn your searches wisely.

I believe that people can break each other's searches as well, so it would be bad to wreck all of someone else's searches. Some people don't use that functionality at all, so they haven't noticed/don't care, but there's no way of knowing. If I want to search someone's posts I do, but if it seems outdated, I don't use the options, lest the one I burn is the one they are counting on to work.


ETA: being ninja'd by HES again is probably a good indication that I'm up too late (and also that I write too slowly).

ETA2: I just read your edit, macraw - so now you can suspect that Neil and I search posts and care, and that DrSamCarter and SBN don't. Or... actually, I might have wrecked Neil's too - I vaguely recall trying to find something he said a while back. Busted.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby macraw83 » Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:44 pm UTC

Thanks for the heads-up, HES and ggh. I may test out that search filter feature, if it gets to that point, but hopefully they're working on a fix anyway. I'll just have to
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby SBN » Wed Jun 22, 2016 3:19 pm UTC

azule wrote:
Well, to continue anyways I have a feeling that if a global language based on English emerged (as it is a lingua franca now) that it would then start to diverge. As much as we try to standardize a language the reality is that the "vulgar" will eventually win out and we'll speak whatever dialect our social group speaks. Just like OTTish as English. It's always inevitable.


This looks like a good place for this: http://xkcd.com/1697/
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby NotAllThere » Wed Jun 22, 2016 3:30 pm UTC

I'm not a forum regular. But 19'112'180 views on this thread... :shock: I remember when Time began.
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Re: 1190: "Time": GOATEE, RELEASE THE HAIKUS!

Postby addams » Wed Jun 22, 2016 4:00 pm UTC

Gingercat wrote:Since I'm Popecat, I decree: Find and listen to a Crowded House song (any will do) and post your thoughts on it! It can be their most famous ones (such as Don't Dream It's Over, my all-time fave song) or more obscure ones like Pineapple Head (there's a story behind that) or Private Universe!

Yes.
You can get me to 'Rick Roll' myself.

There were phrases that were easy to sing along with.
And; "Don't Dream It's Over." It is fun to sing along with.

I have No idea what it means.

At about the same Time,
I heard Like a "Bird on a Wire" sung by Willie Nelson,
for the first Time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXlhgJkO6d4
That song springs to my lips unbidden, still.

I heard that song for the first Time,
While watching, the movie, "Like a Bird on a Wire"

A Romantic Comedy from a Wild, Wild Imagination.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qy5nFqY9bBI

I thought the stupid thing was funny.
The Characters had a Long Term Relationship.

They went on an Adventure together.
Like Megan and Cue?

About the same time a Movie named "Speed'. was released.
I watched it, too.

Same Thing.
Different Movie.

A basic Human response.
Spoiler:
People that go though Stressful Difficult situations together,
Often Fall in Love.

That is Why arranged marriages are so Beautifully Successful.
When they are.

Can you imagine, the conversations about How and When I Fell In Love With You.
It's all Sooo Romantic.
Do you remember the Time, J.J. Threw up in your lap?
I love you for loving him.

I love my Son.
I love his Father.
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Some of us see The Gutter.
Some of us see The Stars.
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1190: "Time" - Time Revisited - np2269

Postby mscha » Wed Jun 22, 2016 4:10 pm UTC

SCAMPUNGS...
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Replay Time live here!

OTT Time Travel

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TimeAfterTime Revisited – t1i-1312

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SCREAMUNG THE 1ST CLERIC: AMTOO DOESN'T LIKE IT -- ongomome
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Wait for it.

Did you notice …
… the analogy?
Spoiler:
The Making Of t1i wrote: What could happen in 13291 which is as subtle as the Flood at its beginning, as interesting and as dangerous, but not too similar?
Image It's like the river.
Image You can't imagine how long it takes, but it can wear away montains.
Image It's like the rising sea.
Image First, you don't notice it.
Image Next, it slowly erodes your sandcastle.
Image You want to understand it.
Image You go out and learn everything.
Image Eventually you understand.
Image It does what it wants.
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46: anananananopheles

Postby thunk » Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:10 pm UTC

Malaria wasn't eradicated in the Nurra until recent yips. It may yet come back. Careful, Cueganizzle!

Best get this done before anyone complains I'm not doing my Outside work.

1980/2496 pages read (79.33%)
58.5 dips taken

Spoiler:
The great mission to rescue Bravebean reaches its height. Cueganizzle reach the Bluecave, insert the scaffold, then realize it's stuck. After putting on some (useless but prudent) masks, Megan lassoes Bravebean out of the cave; xe is slightly radioactive. They bury hir with full Beanie honors.
The three venture out to the shore, where they find a boat and Frizzle draws a map of an island identified by our gumshoe ggh as Asinara. Wow, she's good at this.

There was a closeup of the Questionable Carcass. Then something else is probably going to happen. But this series is now winding down.

Ketchup replies, in loose order:
--Defenestration with Wilhelm scream. Good idea!
--Birthyip pages begin with MistyCat on 1946.
--Valarya is a "Caridnal [sic] of cupcakes".
--we pass Towel Dip. Turns out (bluecrab) that it's also a Discworld holiday.
--"to azule"="to lol" (Lu)
--I don't really like transhumanism as an ideology. Seems to me to be based more on religious faith and ignores very real biological and social problems standing between humans and eternity. That being said, life extension is a laudable goal.
--No idea why Balthasar's pop-up fist is a "drzwi." On Language Log, I read about the Dzwil construction company. Now pronounced mostly "diz-will", it's actually a short form of "Dźwilewski". Of course, the diacritics got lost. Similarly, Krzyżewski-->[ʃəˈʃɛfski] and Kościuszko--> [kaskiˈaskow].
--Floating Cueball makes his appearance! I UNGed one of the frames. It's a bit funny now. There was a PFFTH hotdog too.
--Gingercat speeds up. But I haven't noticed my feathers smoking from when I was blitzing really fast. Hmm...
--Lu: “Tea has a long E.” Confusingly, English "vowel length" refers to vowel quality. It used to be length until the Great Vowel Shift of the 17th century. Now we have 16+-2 vowels and five letters to represent them.
--Bluecrab: “unless they compressed enough to create basementium - that stuff would be incredibly dangerous to OTTers, like krypton is to Superman.” That's a good one.
--Mistycat gets 3 Rosettae. I played enough to get 2.5. This game is too much fun! Especially at the airport.
--Sustainablitzer makes another appearance well before their first post. The most anticipated OTTer?
--Ling puts another bench down. She looks like Discord-alot at the moment, but nobody gets the first reference. Admittedly, even if you watch the riverish equimolps show, it's hard to tell. I didn't until it was pointed out to me.
--Morobu-Niju-Nana begins. The OTT becomes the animu it was always meant to be.
--I pass through a slow wip. I would have thought space stuff belonged on NP 1957 or 1961 though.
--Jose: “(which is different from Wait For IRT, which they do in New York)” BMT: Beanish Molpy Transport? Stand clear of the clasping paws, please.
--Lu: “Usually they'd come and pick me” My parents make that same mistake a lot. Phrasal verbs aren't common in Otherlanguages, and "to pick up" is one of the more common examples.
--Waveney makes Dragon updates to SC Builder. Haven't gotten to that point, and likely won't. But good work.
--taixzo's One True Symphony. Cool! Though I haven't listened to it all.
--Crocoducks in the OTT! I suppose next we'll be talking about how bananananana dem were perfectly designed to be able to fit in the hands of humans.
--CD: “I was alone. Space is terribly vast and dark and cold.” I feel you there. Even though I'm even lazier, and until recently, I got nothing accomplished during my summers except for moping. This exercise in humility seems to have served you well.
--I took the language quiz, got General American and AAVE as my first and second choices. Granted, the latter is rather close to (and derives from) the Southern dialects that I'm often exposed to. As for native language...Norwegian. Really? Er det så vanskelig?
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Re: 1190: "Time": GOATEE, RELEASE THE HAIKUS!

Postby ggh » Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:13 pm UTC

NotAllThere wrote:I'm not a forum regular. But 19'112'180 views on this thread... :shock: I remember when Time began.
Hi, NotAllThere! (None of us are regular.) It is a big number, no? Remember though, a lot of those views are bots.


addams wrote:There were phrases that were easy to sing along with.
And; "Don't Dream It's Over." It is fun to sing along with.

I have No idea what it means.

At about the same Time,
I heard Like a "Bird on a Wire" sung by Willie Nelson,
for the first Time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXlhgJkO6d4
That song springs to my lips unbidden, still.

I heard that song for the first Time,
While watching, the movie, "Like a Bird on a Wire"

A Romantic Comedy from a Wild, Wild Imagination.
I remember really enjoying that movie too, but if that was the first time you heard the song (as it was mine), then the first time you heard that song it was not being sung by Willie, but by the Neville Brothers. All I remember of that movie now is Goldie Hawn renting an import in Detroit, Mel getting shot in the butt and "Mr. Wiggly's been on bread and water." Would watch again.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby svenman » Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:58 pm UTC

HES wrote:...lost as in the lost Dent Arthur Dent...

Didn't you perhaps mean "late"?
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