I think I can tell the difference between Town!bessie and scum!bessie and I think this is Town!bessie. Putting her as Town lean.BoomFrog
I feel there's a strong associative connection between him and Mark and think it's very likely if Mark flips scum then Boom will as well. Independently of that, some of his reads seem quite alarming. Boom always finds me scummy so I discount that, but his Sabrar/bessie/moody reads all seem quite o.O to me. Likely scum if Mark is, scum lean otherwise.Mark_Cangila
No reads, no content, plenty of weirdness.
The sequence of posts surrounding his claim feels very fishy to me.
Mark_Cangila wrote:A somewhat lack of boomgambit, but his gambits seem to have been reducing for the last few games. I don't find anything else in his play AI.
This is Mark's D1 read on Boom. When revisiting these reads later, he stands by
this read. So BoomFrog was a null. Mark has otherwise not interacted with Boom at all. This doesn't strike me as a particularly sensible candidate for Mark to protect.
Mark_Cangila wrote:The BF thing is super interesting. Why can't he vote?
This is very strange for Mark to say given he knew the answer to this already, and ought to have known that some other player would also know the reason. Mark tends to be quite open with his results as Town, so his approach here seems quite dubious... I think Town!Mark would have more likely claimed his full result in his first post of D2 since his power had been switched anyway if he thought he had actually blocked the NK.
Mark wrote:I also had my power switched. I think it is more likely that there is a succesful doctor or RB then a scum withhold.
Same as above. Like plytho, I am very skeptical that Mark wouldn't have noted mpolo claiming a result in his first post of the day. This feels more to me like he is prepping his claim for later and didn't consider the implications of the power switch from Town POV.
mpolo wrote:I somehow missed that Mark had his power switched as well. I think I know who is target was, and suspect that he was trying to do something townie in that targeting (that is, he used the "townier" half of the two option power). I suppose that targeting would work theoretically work for scum as well, though, due to additional information that scum has. However, the townie interpretation seems likelier. That at least pushes Mark_Cangila over the midpoint to "neutral leaning town" for me.
Going to confirm this is true. Just if anyone wanted to know.
Noting also that due to the targets of Mark's original power being confirmable, scum!Mark would need to use the power in a way that seems relatively townie. But again, this feels more like he's prepping his claim... there isn't really any reason for Mark to make this comment.
BoomFrog wrote:I think Mark is the most likely vote-off and you seem to think the power is evidence that he is town. So yeah, I'd reveal probably.
BoomFrog wrote:I know how to read a room. Mark is going to get voted-off if he doesn't claim his former power.
BoomFrog feels way too eager to force a claim here with plenty of time remaining and Mark not even being the lead vote. Without knowing what power mpolo/Mark had, I am extremely suspicious of BoomFrog asking mpolo to claim here... Mark had posted an hour before, there was no reason to rush it since he was obviously following the thread.
Mark wrote:Mpolo's claim is my old role. I am voting for wam due to general scuminess too.
Again, the caginess of this is really strange. There's no reason not to claim a full result here.
Nothing in this feels like a townie claim to me. Scummy.MoA:
Content is fairly marginal. Giving him a pass due to cop claim, might revisit later depending on how the GF thing resolves.moody
Usage and analysis of his power feels very townie. No serious concerns. Towniempolo
Pretty much same as moody. Townieplytho
I like his reads and analysis. His posts feel very genuine. Leaning Town.Sabrar:
I like his aggressive scum hunting this game and I feel his influence is outsized despite his relatively low post count. Leaning Town.Suicide_Junkie:
Newbie weirdness hard to sort through. D2 content doesn't feel as sharp as D1. I still think newbie Town, but I'm less confident than I was before.wam
Votes at lynch scramble are defensive and poorly motivated. Some very problematic/scumslippy content too:
wam wrote:I agree with sabrars logic here
Which means from my perspective Mark and MOA must be scum.
This is actually much more problematic from wam's point of view since it actually implies that both Sabrar and MoA are mafia but wam's own result implies that there's yet another scum in Boom/bessie/me. I think wam worked through the logic here marking himself in the scum column and felt it checked out without actually looking through the implications of how it would look to Town!him, which would actually be extremely alarming (there are similar problems for Mark).
BoomFrog wrote:Why did you not put SJ as one of your three? He was clearly newbie town.
I don't know tbh. Didn't really occur to me. think I wanted a good town block of people I can't read.
This justification seems odd to me. Wam had me/Boom/bessie/Sabrar as all rated as townier than SJ. The underlined statement suggests wam didn't really actually think about his targets vs. reads at all though. Overall, definitely scummy.Town
I think there's a very good chance both wam and Mark are scum of some variety, though not necessarily scum together.