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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby sardia » Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:20 pm UTC

Are you tired of your pedophile priests getting complaints about their pedophilia? Dump them off in non English speaking communities. That way the victims can't report them to the police because they don't speak English.
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/08/66525134 ... or-priests
Blatant statements as to 'there is no need to take corrective action, because folks who were undocumented won't report,'" DeMarco says. "That's in some of these files."

There are dozens of examples of immigrant communities thrown under the bus.
"This is complete pattern," says Patrick Wall, a legal advocate who coined the term 'the geographic solution' to describe the church's actions.

Disgusting.
BTW, when immigration activists talk about how they don't commit as many crimes as citizens, part of the reason why is the fear of government.

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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby CorruptUser » Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:39 pm UTC

Also not much of coincidence considering that there were thousands attending that country music concert, and many hundreds of thousands if not millions of people who survived other shootings.

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Postby Coyne » Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:11 pm UTC



Mass shooting #307 this year; so far 328 dead 1243 injured.

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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby idonno » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:00 pm UTC

sardia wrote:Are you tired of your pedophile priests getting complaints about their pedophilia? Dump them off in non English speaking communities. That way the victims can't report them to the police because they don't speak English.
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/08/66525134 ... or-priests
Blatant statements as to 'there is no need to take corrective action, because folks who were undocumented won't report,'" DeMarco says. "That's in some of these files."

There are dozens of examples of immigrant communities thrown under the bus.
"This is complete pattern," says Patrick Wall, a legal advocate who coined the term 'the geographic solution' to describe the church's actions.

Disgusting.

Anyone involved in covering up predatory behavior by moving the predator to an area with safer prey should be charged as an accomplice.

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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby addams » Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:31 am UTC

CorruptUser wrote:25 Dead in California wildfires...

And counting...
ok...
You keep up with The News.

This is so Strange...
Damn it! It's November!

Californians should be pulling out their Winter Gear.
Thanksgiving Ski Trips need to be planed!

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Postby ijuin » Sun Nov 11, 2018 4:13 pm UTC

Winter? What is this “winter” you speak of? We are still having 80 Farenheit days here.

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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby sardia » Mon Nov 12, 2018 3:24 pm UTC

It's surprisingly easy to convince the majority of people ( like tyndmyr) that birthright citizenship revocation is legitimate. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... ip/575527/
When the Dominican Republic Erased Birthright Citizenship
Dominican authorities deported an estimated 70,000 to 80,000 people of Haitian descent over three years. Those left behind live in a state of institutionalized terror.


It's quite a read, and it covers all the check marks needed to prevent the lazy majority from complaining. It's a elegant strategy.
Find a loophole. Blow up the loophole to cover the people you hate. Gaslight the voters into thinking it's no big change, spending 174 pages explaining why it's not a change at all. Demand that everyone in the minority prove citizenship, and Then start deporting them piecemeal when they can't. When people complain, offer a crazy red tape process to allow a few too retain citizenship. Profit as you now have a terrified workforce that can't complain when employers abuse them (like firing them before payday).
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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby CorruptUser » Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:47 am UTC

Currently 42 dead in cali fire. Worst in states history.

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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby SDK » Wed Nov 14, 2018 3:41 pm UTC

Not as Dark as some, but I thought this wasn't happening in civilized society anymore? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46207304

"Does the evidence out-rule the possibility that she was attracted to the defendant and was open to meeting someone and being with someone?" she asked, according to the Examiner's report.

"You have to look at the way she was dressed. She was wearing a thong with a lace front."


Just because you're "open to meeting someone and being with someone" does not mean you're open to being with anyone. The fact that this was used as evidence is terrible logic.
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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby Angua » Wed Nov 14, 2018 3:50 pm UTC

Also, some women like wearing thongs even when they aren't feeling like meeting someone.

I'm glad that the focus of that article is the fact that people are protesting, and an MP produced some underwear in their Parliament to protest.
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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby CorruptUser » Wed Nov 14, 2018 5:09 pm UTC

Who willingly has sex in alleyways?

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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby Thesh » Wed Nov 14, 2018 5:13 pm UTC

Exhibitionists.
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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby sardia » Wed Nov 14, 2018 6:00 pm UTC

CorruptUser wrote:Who willingly has sex in alleyways?

I believe conservatives call them skanks. Why else would men rape people? Because they're skanks, and the evil magic underwear coerces honest men into sticking their dicks into holes.

I'm being sarcastic and these people are awful.
Edit I was going to leave the sarcasm but then I realized rapists would think I'm serious.

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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby pogrmman » Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:16 am UTC

I’m kinda surprised this isn’t here yet. So, for background, Russia fired upon and siezed 3 Ukrainian naval vessels sailing through the strait between Crimea and Russia. By treaty, this strait is shared between Russia and Ukraine, so the boats had a right to travel through. Since annexing Crimea, Russia claims it for itself. Now Russia is trying the sailors for violating Russia’s territorial waters.

I’m kinda stunned that this isn’t all over the news now — I mean, imagine how much it would be in the news if Russia pulled a move like this with Norway, Finland, or one of the Baltic States. I’ve also been disappointed in the whole international reaction to all of the Ukraine stuff since the annexation of Crimea. I don’t like wars and I don’t think they should happen, but the US and EU could’ve put significantly more pressure on Russia than they did without reaching that point...

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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby addams » Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:43 am UTC

pogrmman wrote:I’m kinda surprised this isn’t here yet. So, for background, Russia fired upon and siezed 3 Ukrainian naval vessels sailing through the strait between Crimea and Russia. By treaty, this strait is shared between Russia and Ukraine, so the boats had a right to travel through. Since annexing Crimea, Russia claims it for itself. Now Russia is trying the sailors for violating Russia’s territorial waters.

I’m kinda stunned that this isn’t all over the news now — I mean, imagine how much it would be in the news if Russia pulled a move like this with Norway, Finland, or one of the Baltic States. I’ve also been disappointed in the whole international reaction to all of the Ukraine stuff since the annexation of Crimea. I don’t like wars and I don’t think they should happen, but the US and EU could’ve put significantly more pressure on Russia than they did without reaching that point...
oh...I heard...but...
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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby sardia » Wed Nov 28, 2018 2:24 am UTC

pogrmman wrote:I’m kinda surprised this isn’t here yet. So, for background, Russia fired upon and siezed 3 Ukrainian naval vessels sailing through the strait between Crimea and Russia. By treaty, this strait is shared between Russia and Ukraine, so the boats had a right to travel through. Since annexing Crimea, Russia claims it for itself. Now Russia is trying the sailors for violating Russia’s territorial waters.

I’m kinda stunned that this isn’t all over the news now — I mean, imagine how much it would be in the news if Russia pulled a move like this with Norway, Finland, or one of the Baltic States. I’ve also been disappointed in the whole international reaction to all of the Ukraine stuff since the annexation of Crimea. I don’t like wars and I don’t think they should happen, but the US and EU could’ve put significantly more pressure on Russia than they did without reaching that point...

The weak suffer what they must. Nobody wants to fight a war with Russia, so Russia gets to do what it wants.

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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby Zohar » Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:24 pm UTC

sardia wrote:The weak suffer what they must.

Do you watch Vlogbrothers? Because John Green talked about this exact quote in yesterday's video. Might just be Baader–Meinhof.
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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby sardia » Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:39 pm UTC

Zohar wrote:Do you watch Vlogbrothers? Because John Green talked about this exact quote in yesterday's video. Might just be Baader–Meinhof.

I first heard it as a dark description of climate change and what to expect in the future regarding who suffers and who pays. Climate change is a political problem under the guise of a environmental challenge. I'm sure it's a quote from somewhere else, but that's where I heard it. Appropriate, given the dark populist time we are in, and the resurgence of Nazis.

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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby Mutex » Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:46 pm UTC

sardia wrote:
pogrmman wrote:I’m kinda surprised this isn’t here yet. So, for background, Russia fired upon and siezed 3 Ukrainian naval vessels sailing through the strait between Crimea and Russia. By treaty, this strait is shared between Russia and Ukraine, so the boats had a right to travel through. Since annexing Crimea, Russia claims it for itself. Now Russia is trying the sailors for violating Russia’s territorial waters.

I’m kinda stunned that this isn’t all over the news now — I mean, imagine how much it would be in the news if Russia pulled a move like this with Norway, Finland, or one of the Baltic States. I’ve also been disappointed in the whole international reaction to all of the Ukraine stuff since the annexation of Crimea. I don’t like wars and I don’t think they should happen, but the US and EU could’ve put significantly more pressure on Russia than they did without reaching that point...

The weak suffer what they must. Nobody wants to fight a war with Russia, so Russia gets to do what it wants.

The US and EU could at least increase economic sanctions on Russia. There are ways of punishing them for this that aren't direct military action.

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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby WriteBrainedJR » Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:52 pm UTC

Mutex wrote:
sardia wrote:
pogrmman wrote:I’m kinda surprised this isn’t here yet. So, for background, Russia fired upon and siezed 3 Ukrainian naval vessels sailing through the strait between Crimea and Russia. By treaty, this strait is shared between Russia and Ukraine, so the boats had a right to travel through. Since annexing Crimea, Russia claims it for itself. Now Russia is trying the sailors for violating Russia’s territorial waters.

I’m kinda stunned that this isn’t all over the news now — I mean, imagine how much it would be in the news if Russia pulled a move like this with Norway, Finland, or one of the Baltic States. I’ve also been disappointed in the whole international reaction to all of the Ukraine stuff since the annexation of Crimea. I don’t like wars and I don’t think they should happen, but the US and EU could’ve put significantly more pressure on Russia than they did without reaching that point...

The weak suffer what they must. Nobody wants to fight a war with Russia, so Russia gets to do what it wants.

The US and EU could at least increase economic sanctions on Russia. There are ways of punishing them for this that aren't direct military action.

For the US to do that, it would require replacing the current President with one who is loyal to the United States, and not to Russia.

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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby Zohar » Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:58 pm UTC

sardia wrote:I'm sure it's a quote from somewhere else, but that's where I heard it.

Yes, the quote is about 2400 years old.
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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby sardia » Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:20 pm UTC

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/ ... 97825.html
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.co ... index.html

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Eighty women say they were molested or “otherwise sexually abused” by Jeffrey Epstein, a Palm Beach multimillionaire hedge fund manager accused of assembling a “cult-like network of underage girls,” whose friends included former President Bill Clinton and Donald Trump. Epstein could have spent the rest of his life in prison, but instead a plea deal was struck whereby he’d serve 13 months in jail and an FBI probe into his victims and other powerful figures potentially involved in his crimes was shut down. [Miami Herald]


Serial child rapist, and pimp Jeffrey Epstein was given a sweet heart deal by labor secretary Alexander Acosta. The conspiratorial part of me thinks that there's a lot of child rapists in the government that don't want this investigation/lawsuits to go forward.
PS a typical sentence for serial child rapist is life in prison. Epstein got 1 year, most of it spent on work release in his luxurious private office specifically set up for Epstein. Work release is banned for child rapists.

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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby Coyne » Fri Nov 30, 2018 6:29 am UTC

Let's see, convicted felon, registered sex offender...so is Jeffrey Epstein up for Supreme Court Justice? Or head of the Fed? Secretary of the Treasury? Secretary of Commerce? US Attorney General?

(Some might object that felons can't be any of the above. Easily overcome: "Pardon.")
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Postby commodorejohn » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:48 pm UTC

Coyne wrote:(Some might object that felons can't be any of the above. Easily overcome: "Pardon.")

That'd actually be interesting (and by "interesting" I mean "horrifying") to test, considering that it was just established last year in the Arpaio case that a pardon does not invalidate a criminal conviction, so it would seem to follow that a felon remains a felon when not engaged in his employment pardoned.

Boy howdy are we getting an interesting full-system stress-test of our governmental structure!
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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby DavidSh » Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:21 pm UTC

Coyne wrote:Let's see, convicted felon, registered sex offender...so is Jeffrey Epstein up for Supreme Court Justice? Or head of the Fed? Secretary of the Treasury? Secretary of Commerce? US Attorney General?

(Some might object that felons can't be any of the above. Easily overcome: "Pardon.")

As of 1996, the US Department of Justice issued a document, which pointed out that "In setting qualifications for federal office, the United States Constitution does not prohibit felons from holding elected federal office." It gives a list of a few statutory disqualifications resulting from specific crimes, such as bribery, treason, and inciting insurrection, and concludes "Aside from such specific statutory disqualifications, a felony conviction does not disqualify a person from federal employment, but is a factor in determining suitability for it, according to the Office of Personnel Management."

It also claims that presidential pardons are sufficient to restore federal rights lost by federal crimes, and state pardons are probably sufficient to restore federal rights lost by state crimes, but that the federal firearms laws on this subject are a mess.

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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby idonno » Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:06 am UTC

The sentence is insanely light but at least Epstein is probably no where near as big a risk to society anymore since it would be much harder for him to get away with something like this again. I find it much more concerning that they shut down the investigation which strongly indicates at least one person with a lot of power is an ongoing threat.

DavidSh wrote:the United States Constitution does not prohibit felons from holding elected federal office.

I think this is actually a pretty good thing. The people have every right to pick someone who has been convicted of a felony if they want to. You don't want a system where one side can gain enough power to disqualify opposition from ever holding power. Anyone who doesn't think this could be a genuine threat should read up a bit more on McCarthyism.

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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby jseah » Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:17 am UTC

Not sure if this has been posted but this article details a "too soon" attempt at human genetic editing.

With implanted the embryos.

With potential germ line effects at that.

Summary: Chinese unethical scientist modifies two twins in an attempt to make them immune to HIV by a precise deletion in the CCR5 protein. Will the deletion even work to make them immune? Who knows?

The technique is too early and immature to properly perform that deletion. Off target effects are expected, one twin had 15 bases deleted, the other had 4 (!!) deleted and in some cells 1 added.
This is important because DNA bases -> protein translation happens in groups of 3, if you delete or add a number not divisible by 3, you screw up the rest of the protein.
Some of the cells did not have *both* copies edited, meaning those cells have gene editing side effects without the immunity at all.

Given that not every cell was edited at the same time, means that the twins contain an unknown amount of mosaicism. They may or may not pass it on to their children if they have any...

The worst part of course is that this sort of mass editing program could have be done on bone marrow cells in order to make a transplanted immune system immune to HIV. It would have been much easier to do, much more controllable and if failed, the transplant could have just been junked instead.

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The sad part about this whole issue is that this scientist has done more to damage the cause of pro-gene editing stances (which I subscribe to). By doing this too early, without practicing on non-implanted eggs first to fix the problems listed above, he risks causing a backlash against the whole genetic editing research field.
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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby Soupspoon » Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:51 am UTC

I'm currently wavering (without having rezearched absolutely everything myself, ironically) toward this being yet another case of fake-science from China. A spectacular claim that won't stand up.

There's another part of me that wonders if the twins will become the ultimate mother-line sources for the Morlocks and Eloi, respectively.

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Re: The Darker Side of the News

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Soupspoon wrote:I'm currently wavering (without having rezearched absolutely everything myself, ironically) toward this being yet another case of fake-science from China. A spectacular claim that won't stand up.

There's another part of me that wonders if the twins will become the ultimate mother-line sources for the Morlocks and Eloi, respectively.

It seems to have actually been done. In that there are actually babies with deliberate (though off target) gene editing.

I'm not surprised that doing this was possible, we had the ability ever since that chinese paper with the edited non-viable embryos. I have no issues with that one, since it was specifically for showing what problems might exist, and it did indeed show the problems with the technique that this guy created in the twins.

It's just that actually implanting the modified embryo seems like... a useless publicity stunt that is going to backfire dramatically.
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Postby Link » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:49 pm UTC

Hungary forces the Central European University out of the country. Yet another example of a member state spitting in the face of the fundamental democratic principles of the EU. At this rate it looks like it'll be a few years tops until we (i.e. the EU) have countries that openly embrace fascism...

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Postby Sableagle » Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:12 pm UTC

Another veteran / RTA survivor with mental health issues, another shooting. This one was not fatal.
https://www.localnews8.com/news/kifi-to ... r/58315751
The footage came up on YouTube for some reason. The comment section was ... disgusting ...

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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby Thesh » Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:55 am UTC

The conservative stranglehold on debate in this country:

https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2019/ ... ite/222504

This is why I can't stand centrists who say "I watch both Fox News and CNN to get both sides of the story".


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It seems they're equal opportunity then. Why isn't this in the news?
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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby addams » Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:22 am UTC

jseah wrote:Not sure if this has been posted but this article details a "too soon" attempt at human genetic editing.

With implanted the embryos.

With potential germ line effects.
I didn't read the article, I was having a problem with my machine.
Now, I've read it and I have a problem with the gene they say the chose.

What the Hell?! HIV??
If you can make a human genetically immune, make that human immune to Malaria!
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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby Soupspoon » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:55 am UTC

gd1 wrote:


It seems they're equal opportunity then. Why isn't this in the news?


As far as I'm concerned, it's old news. Chinese Government is being Chinese Government. Though that people are unaware of the ideological battle for faith (Diety vs Party, with the latter seemingly being the more omnipresent and omnipotent in that realm) being orchestrated proves why this is a rightful revisiting of the subject.

(I got a dark chuckle out of the suggestion that a church should install CCTV, with the slightly oblique view that that'd be like Russian churches installing Russia Today and US ones installing Fox…)

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Postby commodorejohn » Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:17 pm UTC

gd1 wrote:

It seems they're equal opportunity then. Why isn't this in the news?

Because China has way more financial pull than even the largest religious organizations.

Plus, as Soupspoon says, in a way it's old news. The western world decided nearly thirty years ago that it was basically okay with China's rampant human-rights abuses, oppression of dissidents, persecution of religious believers, and suppression of free speech so long as they got sweet deals on cheap electronics, and by $GOD we're going to stay the course now that they're also a major market for Hollywood blockbusters.
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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby Zohar » Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:09 pm UTC

gd1 wrote:


It seems they're equal opportunity then. Why isn't this in the news?

Listen to better news.
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