Ormurinn wrote:It's not a "perception" that immigration ran rampant while labour was in power, it''s just a fact - the rate of immigration increased massively over those years, and there have been real negative consequences for the native people in places like Leicester, Bradford, Oldham and the like.
Let's be clear: It's a fact that it increased massively. It's an opinion that it ran rampant. An opinion you clearly hold, and an opinion that clearly sells newspapers. (But then, sadly, anti-foreigner sentiment usually does the world over)
'Running rampant' is a term that holds negative connotations, and I'd argue a big influx of foreigners to the UK is a net positive overall. Which is not to say there are no negative side-effects, which is what you seem to think I'm saying, merely that the positive outweigh the negative. For example, because we have become so top-heavy in terms of demographics, with the ratio of pensioners to workers becoming ever more unsustainable, nothing counterbalances that better than when young, fit, healthy workers arrive from Europe, work a few years and then return home without collecting a pension themselves. Which is exactly what we've seen happen.
I'm in complete agreement with you RE the effects of redistributing the tax money back into those areas, but that wouldn't have been enough. Theres also the effect of the immigration being so concentrated over such a short time - if the immigration of the last ten years had occurred over thirty there'd be less of an issue, but the short timescale and establishment commitment to multiculturalism have impeded assimilation, to the extent that the hearts of many communities have been replaced with ethnically-exclusive ghettoes.
Ethnically-exclusive ghettoes are a problem with human nature - something that's immoral whether being practised by a native or a foreigner - and it's a problem nowhere in the world has solved; It can only really be tempered through education - and, ironically, the solution is partly the same as the problem: If people regularly encounter others of different ethnicity they will begin to stop fearing difference - realising that, actually, humans are broadly the same the world over.
But fair point. I don't have an issue with, for example, an English test before allowing people to live and work in the UK, meaning they don't feel forced to settle around others speaking the same language.