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Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Postby CorruptUser » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:42 pm UTC

Apparently you've never had to deal with chickens. Disgusting creatures, the only domesticated animal that deserves to be factory farmed.

If we need an equally disgusting and mentally deficient mammal for meat, I would recommend replacing the cow with koalas, except those bastards actually are TOO stupid to be farmed.

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Postby sardia » Sat Jul 07, 2018 2:43 am UTC

CorruptUser wrote:Apparently you've never had to deal with chickens. Disgusting creatures, the only domesticated animal that deserves to be factory farmed.

If we need an equally disgusting and mentally deficient mammal for meat, I would recommend replacing the cow with koalas, except those bastards actually are TOO stupid to be farmed.

What did chickens ever do to you?

FYI Cows fed lots of kelp will reduce methane pollution. Lets you keep eating steak for a while longer. At least until too many starving kids demand the farmland for vegetables.

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Postby CorruptUser » Sat Jul 07, 2018 3:24 am UTC

Cows' use of farmland has been vastly exaggerated. Cattle have a feed conversion ratio of between 5 and 7, with American beef being on the lower end due to the efficiency of factory farms. That is, 5 pounds of feed turns into 1 pound of cow. Now that does include the rest of the cow, but that rest still has use as leather, bone char, dog food, more animal feed, etc. Nothing close to the "40+ pounds" always cited by PETA and the like. If you are upset by this and want to make cattle farming more efficient, support things like "pink slime" which extract extra protein from organ meats and thus lower the ratio.

Of course, no one mentions that organic farms rely extensively on factory farmed bullshit in order to maintain respectable yields; if we all went vegan, the organic farms would become vastly less productive. That isn't to say that we shouldn't use shit as fertilizer instead of dumping it in the river, of course.

Chickens are much more efficient, with feed conversion ratios below 2, with again, factory farms being the lowest.

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Postby addams » Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:11 am UTC

sardia wrote:https://www.npr.org/2018/07/05/626123698/when-spiders-go-airborne-it-s-electric-literally
Many spiders fly long distances by riding "balloons" of silk, and a new study suggests that they're propelled by more than just the wind.
Electric fields at strengths found in nature can also trigger the spiders' ballooning behavior. And electrostatic forces can lift up the spiders even when the air is still, according to a newly published report in the journal Current Biology. Ballooning spiders have long fascinated scientists because they fly high — they've been found more than 2 miles up — and far. These spiders land on ships in the middle of the ocean, and they're often the first colonizers of new volcanic islands, says Erica Morley of the University of Bristol.
"Although they don't have wings, they're actually pretty good at flying,"

"Spiderman, Spiderman, does whatever a spider can
Spins a web any size, electric fields lets them fly
Look out, here comes the Spiderman"

So a spider can somehow detect electric fields, and then use them to fly high into the atmosphere, letting them be the first to colonize newly formed volcanic islands.
I re-read that, while awake.
The researchers can make the spiders rise and fall by flipping the switch.

How this is going to be useful, I can not guess.
There must be something coming. Not spiders.

Maybe the WingSuit People will be able to use atmospheric charge to prolong their flights.
Or; In (X) number of years, children will transport via sail and atmospheric electricity.

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Postby commodorejohn » Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:57 am UTC

Sableagle wrote:When you start thinking of them as nanotech machines that disperse to optimise their own efficiency and then dedicate themselves to converting disease-carrying insects into more nanotech machines that disperse to optimise their own efficiency and then dedicate themselves to converting disease-carrying insects into more nanotech machines that disperse to optimise their own efficiency and then dedicate themselves to converting disease-carrying insects into more nanotech machines that disperse to optimise their own efficiency and then dedicate themselves to converting disease-carrying insects into more nanotech machines that disperse to optimise their own efficiency, they become awesome.

On the other hand, we have bats and dragonflies for this job, neither are ever venomous, and both are significantly less prone to trying to set up shop in my bathroom.

The web thing is pretty cool though.
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Postby Sableagle » Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:19 am UTC

CorruptUser wrote:Cows' use of farmland has been vastly exaggerated. Cattle have a feed conversion ratio of between 5 and 7, with American beef being on the lower end due to the efficiency of factory farms. That is, 5 pounds of feed turns into 1 pound of cow. Now that does include the rest of the cow, but that rest still has use as leather, bone char, dog food, more animal feed, etc. Nothing close to the "40+ pounds" always cited by PETA and the like. If you are upset by this and want to make cattle farming more efficient, support things like "pink slime" which extract extra protein from organ meats and thus lower the ratio.

Of course, no one mentions that organic farms rely extensively on factory farmed bullshit in order to maintain respectable yields; if we all went vegan, the organic farms would become vastly less productive. That isn't to say that we shouldn't use shit as fertilizer instead of dumping it in the river, of course.

Chickens are much more efficient, with feed conversion ratios below 2, with again, factory farms being the lowest.


How much water do cows drink per day? (July 19, 2016)

Daily water intake may vary from 3 to 30 gallons per day depending on age, body size (weight), stage of production, and the environment (mainly air temperature).
As a rule of thumb, consumption will range from 1 gallon per 100 pounds of body weight during cold weather to nearly 2 gallons per 100 pounds of body during the hottest weather.
Lactating cows require nearly twice as much water compared to dry cows.
Clean fresh water free of manure, dirt, and other debris is important.

Dr. Rick Rasby
Professor of Animal Science


As the UK swelters under a summer heatwave, the nation’s gardeners are sweating more than most.

Lawns across the country are as parched and arid as the Serengeti, roses are wilting and allotment lettuces crying out for rain.

To make matters worse, Britain’s water companies have now declared the year’s first hosepipe ban, rendering it illegal for householders to water the grass in order to prevent vital reserves from drying up in the drought.

Where is it?

The first ban of 2018 has been activated in Northern Ireland, coming into effect at 6pm on Friday 29 June and permitting residents to use the taps solely for drinking, cooking and washing.


Cape Town is approaching drought ‘Day Zero’, and climate change could be to blame

The city is edging closer to a day – known locally as “Day Zero” – when supplies are so low authorities will have to cut off water to three quarters of the population.

Far from being a hypothetical scenario, Day Zero has a set date. It is currently expected on 9 July.


The in-depth assessment presented in this document of the various significant impacts of the world’s livestock sector on the environment is deliberately termed Livestock’s long shadow so as to help raise the attention of both the technical and the general public to the very substantial contribution of animal agriculture to climate change and air pollution, to land, soil and water degradation and to the reduction of biodiversity. This is not done simply to blame the rapidly growing and intensifying global livestock sector for severely damaging the environment but to encourage decisive measures at the technical and political levels for mitigating such damage.

It is obvious that the responsibility for the necessary action to address the environmental damage by the livestock sector goes far beyond the sector; it also goes beyond agriculture. While the sector, and agriculture as a whole, have to live up to the challenge of finding suitable technical solutions for more environmentally sustainable resource use in animal agriculture, the decisions concerning their use clearly transcend agriculture; multisector and multiobjective decision-making is required.

Livestock also affect the carbon balance of land used for pasture or feedcrops, and thus indirectly contribute to releasing large amounts of carbon into the atmosphere. The same happens when forest is cleared for pastures. In addition, greenhouse gases are emitted from fossil fuel used in the production process, from feed production to processing and marketing of livestock products. Some of the indirect effects are difficult to estimate, as land use related emissions vary widely, depending on biophysical factors as soil, vegetation and climate as well as on human practices.

The respiration of livestock makes up only a very small part of the net release of carbon that can be attributed to the livestock sector. Much
more is released indirectly by other channels including:
•burning fossil fuel to produce mineral fertilizers used in feed production;
•methane release from the breakdown of fertilizers and from animal manure;
•land-use changes for feed production and for grazing;
•land degradation;
•fossil fuel use during feed and animal production; and
•fossil fuel use in production and transport of processed and refrigerated animal products.

Freshwater resources are unequally distributed at the global level. More than 2.3 billion people in 21 countries live in water-stressed basins (having between 1 000 and 1 700 m3 per person per year). Some 1.7 billion people live in basins under scarcity conditions (with less than 1 000 m3 per person per year) see Map 28, Annex 1 (Rosegrant, Cai and Cline, 2002; Kinje, 2001; Bernstein, 2002; Brown, 2002). More than one billion people do not have sufficient access to clean water. Much of the world’s human population growth and agricultural expansion is taking place in water stressed regions.


... and I just found an article about this, under which someone commented that cholesterol is good for you and vegetables don't contain amino acids.

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Postby addams » Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:10 pm UTC

Sable;....
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I didn't get a Smile, leave alone a Giggle.

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Postby Sableagle » Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:01 pm UTC

addams wrote:Sable;....
That's not funny.
I didn't get a Smile, leave alone a Giggle.

I come here for those oh, so common Stupid and Funny Human Tricks.
Like the moving cones to drive near SinkHoles. Oh! The Self Confidence!

Moving the climate debates and emissions commitments to drive us all near one hell of a sinkhole is just a bit too serious to be funny, eh?

"Vegetables often don't contain amino acids" is like "Metals often don't contain neutrons" or "untreated springwater often doesn't contain any oxygen nucleii" or maybe ... "foreign figure-skaters often don't have digestive tracts."
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Postby addams » Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:38 pm UTC

Sableagle wrote:"Vegetables often don't contain amino acids" is like "Metals often don't contain neutrons" or "untreated springwater often doesn't contain any oxygen nucleii" or maybe ... "foreign figure-skaters often don't have digestive tracts."
oh,...well,...When you put it That way, it does get a bit funnier.
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Postby Mutex » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:55 pm UTC

Seems a little unfair to blame the stork for that.

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Postby Zamfir » Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:58 am UTC

http://rstb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/373/1753/20170239
A study of offices that were changed to open-plan layout. Conclusion: face to face communications drops off a cliff, email communication goes way up.

Pretty much the opposite of what such changes are supposed to accomplish. Assuming that the goal was not simply to put more chairs in the same space.

Article remarks that we have really no clue at all how collaborative work actually works.

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Postby Mutex » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:15 am UTC

I wonder how that works. Maybe being in an open, noisy environment makes people feel less secure so they go out of their way to reduce further contact and "close up" a lot. While people in cubicles feel more secure and are more willing to initiate contact with other people.

I guess increased usage of social media is because people find it harder to concentrate on anything.

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Postby speising » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:24 am UTC

i don't find this surprising at all. it's easy to go over to a colleague's office to chat, but when there a 20 other people around, you'll want to keep noise level to a minimum, and 10 parallel conversations are a little bit distracting.

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Postby Zamfir » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:05 am UTC

Yeah, it's not surprising. But clearly not obvious either. After all, lots of organizations do change offices to open-plan with the expectation of easier communication.

I've never understood the American love for (or at least, acceptance of ) cubicles. Open-plan offices at least have the fig leaf f the Philosophy of Breaking Down the Walls. It might actually be cost-cutting, but you can pretend. Cubicles are just a raised middle finger from higher management.

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Postby Mutex » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:17 am UTC

I'd much prefer to have a cubicle. What don't you like about them?

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Postby Zamfir » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:40 am UTC

Lack of light. Noise from too many people in one room. Difficult to have sensitive conversations. Often impossible to regulate the temperature to your own preference. Usually goes together with small space, though of course you can cram too many people in an office as well. The creepy feeling that someone could be watching over your shoulder, if the space is designed that the walkway is directly behind your back.

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Postby Mutex » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:50 am UTC

Well, other than the lack of daylight you get all those things with open plan too. Which is the only other option I've seen, in fact the ONLY kind of office I've worked in. Cubicles at least muffle the sound of other conversations and give people a little more privacy.

What other office layouts have you worked in? Did everyone get their own office or something?

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Postby speising » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:39 am UTC

Mutex wrote:Well, other than the lack of daylight you get all those things with open plan too. Which is the only other option I've seen, in fact the ONLY kind of office I've worked in. Cubicles at least muffle the sound of other conversations and give people a little more privacy.

What other office layouts have you worked in? Did everyone get their own office or something?

this is where i work. we are two persons in there.
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Postby Zamfir » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:50 am UTC

Offices for 2 to roughly 4 people, with windows on one side and a door on the other side. A corridor in between, and another row of offices on the other side of the corridor. The walls go up to the ceiling, but can typically be moved fairly easily. A meeting room for every few offices.

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Postby Mutex » Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:02 pm UTC

speising wrote:this is where i work. we are two persons in there.
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Are you both on the desk visible in that pic, or is there another desk on the other side of the room?

Two-four people in an office would be a dream, guess it takes a decent amount of floor space though. The trend in London is to pack people into ever smaller open-plan offices.

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Postby flicky1991 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:07 pm UTC

Whenever I've seen office slike speising's on American TV shows, I've assumed it was because the character was high up enough in the company to warrant their own room. Is it really usual for everyone to be in small rooms like that in some office buildings?
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Postby Chen » Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:14 pm UTC

Zamfir wrote:Offices for 2 to roughly 4 people, with windows on one side and a door on the other side. A corridor in between, and another row of offices on the other side of the corridor. The walls go up to the ceiling, but can typically be moved fairly easily. A meeting room for every few offices.


How many total people are you talking here? Everyone has a window? I mean either its a tiny building or theres a ton of wasted space in the middle. I mean hell we have a cafeteria and atrium thats takes up the entire center of our building (caf on ground, open space on the 2nd and third floors) and we still have people in cubicles nowhere near a window. Theres no way we could give everyone an office. Management has offices but I dont think any except the executives have windows since they’re all on the inside so that you maximize the daylight in the building.

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Postby Zamfir » Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:36 pm UTC

Two-four people in an office would be a dream, guess it takes a decent amount of floor space though. The trend in London is to pack people into ever smaller open-plan offices.

I think the main cost is outer walls. Cubicles or open-plan allow you to put people further away from windows. Space is more relative - you can make the offices very small, or stick many people in them, and end up at any density. At some density point, open space or cubicles might feel larger than tiny offices, but at that point I'd say the amount of allocated space is questionable anyway.

London at least has the excuse that space is very expensive, and employees might be happier to get the money than the space.

Thats where Americans surprise me. You find these office buildings with parking lots the size of a minor city in the Netherlands. Filled with trucks the size of a median Dutch house. No lack of space, clearly. You talk to people who are fairly senior and well-paid. They don't work there for lack of options. But cubicle farms (sometimes spacious and luxurious) for everyone except higher management.

Edit: @Chen: it means the building can't be wide. But nothing stops it from being high, long, or having multiple wings to get the desired size.

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Postby Sableagle » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:13 pm UTC

Zamfir wrote:@Chen: it means the building can't be wide. But nothing stops it from being high, long, or having multiple wings to get the desired size.

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Postby Mutex » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:45 pm UTC

It's unfortunate that pretty much the most logical shape of a building to maximise windows is the swastika.

I hope no fascist group ever uses the triangle as their symbol. All our bridges would collapse.

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Postby ucim » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:51 pm UTC

I think this quote captures it best: "[An open office is] an open expanse of proximal employees choosing to isolate themselves as best they can (e.g. by wearing large headphones) while appearing to be as busy as possible (since everyone can see them)"
http://rstb.royalsocietypublishing.org/ ... 3/20170239

Productivity requires privacy as well as collaboration. You actually have to get your work done, not just talk about it.

When you have an open office, everyone is thrown together without regard to what they are doing or how they might work together. What interaction it facilitates would be casual "watercooler chitchat", which interferes with work. The default is then to just try to get your work done without distraction. But if everyone had offices or cubicles, and one needed or wanted to talk F2F with another, that is still possible, easy, and the resulting conversation would be focused, and thus productive.

So perhaps this could work with small teams (2-4) and productivity would increase. But with too many people thrown together, the loss of privacy and the increase in (potential) distraction overwhelms the (small) potential gain from more collaboration.

A more interesting study would be to look at, wherever cooperation occurs, how and why this collaboration affects productivity. Not all communication is collaboration, and not all collaboration is helpful.

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Mutex wrote:I wonder how that works. Maybe being in an open, noisy environment makes people feel less secure so they go out of their way to reduce further contact and "close up" a lot. While people in cubicles feel more secure and are more willing to initiate contact with other people.

This is key. Open-plan office design is a cheap way for management to make everyone feel like someone else might be looking over their shoulder.
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Postby HES » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:07 pm UTC

Mutex wrote:It's unfortunate that pretty much the most logical shape of a building to maximise windows is the swastika.

I hope no fascist group ever uses the triangle as their symbol. All our bridges would collapse.


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Postby speising » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:10 pm UTC

Mutex wrote:
speising wrote:this is where i work. we are two persons in there.
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Are you both on the desk visible in that pic, or is there another desk on the other side of the room?

Two-four people in an office would be a dream, guess it takes a decent amount of floor space though. The trend in London is to pack people into ever smaller open-plan offices.


there's another desk on the left, you can see his notebook. (and, theoretically, a desk opposite mine for a third person).
of course, i'm not in the US, but you'd think space is more sparse in Old Europe.

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Postby Zohar » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:13 pm UTC

Zamfir wrote:Lack of light. Noise from too many people in one room. Difficult to have sensitive conversations. Often impossible to regulate the temperature to your own preference. Usually goes together with small space, though of course you can cram too many people in an office as well. The creepy feeling that someone could be watching over your shoulder, if the space is designed that the walkway is directly behind your back.

A properly designed cubicle plan will not create noise when people are talking. I've worked in two call centers, both used cubicles. We have meeting rooms for sensitive conversations. Temperatures are often impossible to regulate at an office level (in my previous job we worked in small offices and there was only one central AC, and my room was always too warm - I feel much better here). In an office depending on the layout you can often have people looking over your shoulder as well - I've had that happen before.

The light point is very valid. In fact I would like to have a window I could actually open when it's not too hot or too cold. But other than that, I don't particularly mind cubicles. Sure I prefer an office, but it's OK if I don't have one. And it's not just a middle finger from management - offices are way more expensive.
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Postby pseudoidiot » Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:03 pm UTC

We've got nice tall (maybe 5'6" - 5'8") cubicle walls which I love. I've known people that work in places with the shared office thing. That'd be pure torture for me; I can't focus as well with other people in close proximity like that. I feel nice and isolated in my cubicle. I've got a cheap desk fan to keep cool (being too cold is luckily never a problem for me). There's one large section of windows in one corner of the main office space, but I prefer artificial light to sunlight, so I don't care that it's not near me. They also installed some sort of white-noise/noise-cancelling system in the drop-ceiling a few months back. It's not perfect, but in general the only noise I hear is from cubicles that share a wall with mine or the one right across the pathway from me. Plus I keep headphones in most of the time when I'm working so it's not an issue.
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Postby Zamfir » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:02 pm UTC

And it's not just a middle finger from management - offices are way more expensive.

That s why the American attitude puzzles me. If you don't have much bargaining power, I get why you accept an office without much daylight. Better to bargain for money. Same for London offices, where that window is very expensive. But the Americans I have in mind can bargain for high salaries - typically higher than their European counterparts. They are just (in my opinion) remarkably easy about cost-cutting at their expense.

Part of it might be about the signal. If a window is not expected, then lack of a window doesn't mean much. But if it is expected, then a lack of a window is a red flag. It implies that management cares little about employee morale and retention - and this attitude is likely to show up in other ways as well.

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Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Postby Thesh » Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:37 pm UTC

I always equated open plan with a lack of trust by management. With cubicles and offices, drones have privacy and so it's harder to keep an eye on them.
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Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Postby stilettoblade » Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:54 pm UTC

speising wrote:
Mutex wrote:
speising wrote:this is where i work. we are two persons in there.
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Are you both on the desk visible in that pic, or is there another desk on the other side of the room?

Two-four people in an office would be a dream, guess it takes a decent amount of floor space though. The trend in London is to pack people into ever smaller open-plan offices.


there's another desk on the left, you can see his notebook. (and, theoretically, a desk opposite mine for a third person).
of course, i'm not in the US, but you'd think space is more sparse in Old Europe.


If there's at least three of those desks in that office, then the space that office occupies is easily at least 6 to 8 cubicles in some parts of the building I work in.

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Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Postby Coyne » Sat Jul 14, 2018 5:36 am UTC

Too good to pass up....

Trump calls his own interview 'fake news,' slams changes from European immigration

Shows the meaninglessness of his conceptualization of fake news, by which he means anything he disagrees with whatsoever. Even if it's a quote of his own statements.
In all fairness...

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Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Postby elasto » Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:17 am UTC

I also love* how Trump makes no attempt to hide his naked egotism - how his constant craving for approval entirely colours his view of people:

The Trumpmeister wrote:Trump defended that he has praised Boris Johnson, who just this week resigned from May's cabinet in protest of her "soft" Brexit plan:

"I said he'd be a great prime minister. He's saying good things about me as president. He thinks I'm doing a great job. I am doing a great job, just in case you haven't noticed, but I do think Boris Johnson would be a great prime minister."



*FCDO love...

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Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Postby elasto » Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:08 am UTC

A London Underground station has been temporarily named after England's football manager.

Southgate Tube station was rebranded Gareth Southgate station from Monday morning for 48 hours, after the squad finished fourth in the World Cup. It was England's best result since 1990 when they also lost in the semi-final.

"We're delighted to be able to show our appreciation to Gareth and the team by renaming the station in his honour," Transport for London said.

The Piccadilly Line station, in Enfield, north London, will display the manager's name on its signs until the end of Tuesday.

One local resident said the temporary signage was a "fantastic" way to say thank you to the England manager.

Speaking at the station, she said: "He gets on with the job and he achieved those amazing results and lifted the whole nation's spirits. And this is a tribute to him in the very same manner - quiet, unassuming."


(The French have outdone us though by naming six of their stations after Frenchmen :D )

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Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Postby Soupspoon » Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:32 am UTC

Well then, "Bobby Moorenington Crescent" is well overdue, some would say. (Maybe they never quite got there, due to being in Nidd.)


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